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Iowa caucus....the Butt is a....head......
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: February 05, 2020 02:27PM
......and what a nice Butt.....it is.....


Buttigieg holds lead with 71% reporting in Iowa

....Here are where the top five candidates stand:

Pete Buttigieg (26.8%)
Bernie Sanders (25.2%)
Elizabeth Warren (18.4%)
Joe Biden (15.4%)
Amy Klobuchar (12.6%)




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Re: Iowa caucus....the Butt is a....head......
Posted by: DinerDave
Date: February 05, 2020 05:26PM
Still saying not official.
Frankly, I don't know that much about Butter keg, guess I'll have to research to form an opinion.

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Re: Iowa caucus....the Butt is a....head......
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: February 05, 2020 07:24PM
The Dem machine results in Iowa:
- marginalize non-mainstream candidates
- cripple momentum of non-mainstream candidates into next primary
- turn off younger voters and cut turnout
- blame Bernie for demanding a change in the procedure that caused confusion

3 out of 4 ain't bad.



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Re: Iowa caucus....the Butt is a....head......
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: February 05, 2020 07:25PM
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DinerDave
Still saying not official.
Frankly, I don't know that much about Butter keg, guess I'll have to research to form an opinion.

Do some Googling for his gentrification campaign, the controversy around his firing of the South Bend police chief, and his history of doing favors for campaign donors both present-day and for the real estate companies in Indiana.



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Re: Iowa caucus....the Butt is a....head......
Posted by: DinerDave
Date: February 05, 2020 07:29PM
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Sarcany
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DinerDave
Still saying not official.
Frankly, I don't know that much about Butter keg, guess I'll have to research to form an opinion.

Do some Googling for his gentrification campaign, the controversy around his firing of the South Bend police chief, and his history of doing favors for campaign donors both present-day and for the real estate companies in Indiana.

Thanks, will do. I have to admit, I love calling him "Butter Keg", almost as chuckle worthy and "Cheato"
Gotta laugh at this crap.

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Re: Iowa caucus....the Butt is a....head......
Posted by: sekker
Date: February 05, 2020 07:54PM
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Sarcany
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DinerDave
Still saying not official.
Frankly, I don't know that much about Butter keg, guess I'll have to research to form an opinion.

Do some Googling for his gentrification campaign, the controversy around his firing of the South Bend police chief, and his history of doing favors for campaign donors both present-day and for the real estate companies in Indiana.

And despite these criticisms, still won an overwhelming re-election?

I do not think Mayor Pete should be the Dem nominee, but there's no question we are seeing Fake News against him.
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Re: Iowa caucus....the Butt is a....head......
Posted by: vision63
Date: February 05, 2020 08:03PM
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Filliam H. Muffman
The Dem machine results in Iowa:
- marginalize non-mainstream candidates
- cripple momentum of non-mainstream candidates into next primary
- turn off younger voters and cut turnout
- blame Bernie for demanding a change in the procedure that caused confusion

3 out of 4 ain't bad.

Nobody is more mainstream/establishment than Bernie. Nobody ever even heard of Buttigieg before.
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Re: Iowa caucus....the Butt is a....head......
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: February 05, 2020 08:23PM
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sekker
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Sarcany
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DinerDave
Still saying not official.
Frankly, I don't know that much about Butter keg, guess I'll have to research to form an opinion.

Do some Googling for his gentrification campaign, the controversy around his firing of the South Bend police chief, and his history of doing favors for campaign donors both present-day and for the real estate companies in Indiana.

And despite these criticisms, still won an overwhelming re-election?

I do not think Mayor Pete should be the Dem nominee, but there's no question we are seeing Fake News against him.

This is not "fake news." Might have had good motives. Might have just been that he was naive and wanted to make a show of progress and keep the "noise" of dissent down, but the consequences of his decisions were very real and very bad for a lot of people. Even assuming the very best of intentions and giving him the benefit of every doubt, if he ran on his record he'd have been out of the race before he started. He has no wisdom. He is not a leader. He doesn't know how to govern.



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Re: Iowa caucus....the Butt is a....head......
Posted by: $tevie
Date: February 05, 2020 08:57PM
I'm all in for Pete Buttigieg. I read his book, I've read his policy statements, and I've watched some speeches. What I haven't bothered reading is more than maybe a dozen critical pieces, because it's repetitive and I can cite equal criticisms of all the other candidates. Buttigieg is probably going to stumble when he hits the South, but the fact that the folks in Middle America Flyover Country the Heartland choose your cliche voted in large numbers for a gay man is heartening during this bleak time.

PS: Sanders ain't got no record to speak of. Show me what's he DONE as opposed to what he SAYS. Eh?







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Re: Iowa caucus....the Butt is a....head......
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: February 05, 2020 09:47PM
Pete's government experience is limited to running a small city.

He is an absolute pleasure to listen to. He expresses himself better than anyone else in the race. I hope to see him as a Senator or Rep or governor one day. He has time to become a national treasure before becoming president in the future.
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Re: Iowa caucus....the Butt is a....head......
Posted by: vision63
Date: February 05, 2020 10:09PM
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Steve G.
Pete's government experience is limited to running a small city.

He is an absolute pleasure to listen to. He expresses himself better than anyone else in the race. I hope to see him as a Senator or Rep or governor one day. He has time to become a national treasure before becoming president in the future.

His problem is he's from a red state. He tried to knock off the Indiana State Treasurer and got bopped. It was either run for president or nothing for him. If he doesn't win he'll be a lock in whatever Democratic Administration is put together, 'cept for one.
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Re: Iowa caucus....the Butt is a....head......
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: February 05, 2020 11:10PM
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Steve G.
Pete's government experience is limited to running a small city.

He is an absolute pleasure to listen to. He expresses himself better than anyone else in the race. I hope to see him as a Senator or Rep or governor one day. He has time to become a national treasure before becoming president in the future.

I agree. Once he's had time to mature and make a few corrections, he could become a valuable statesman.

But right now, he has too many blips on his very short record. Maybe if his record was longer, those blips could be more easily overlooked or explained away as uncharacteristic slips. But he hasn't gotten there. This is the record he's got.

Yes, almost any candidate is better than Drumpf, but we still have a field to choose from and we don't have to roll the dice on this.



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Re: Iowa caucus....the Butt is a....head......
Posted by: bfd
Date: February 06, 2020 12:39AM
Surprising as it is to see Bernie and Booty-Judge tied for the lead, it's even more surprising to see Biden and Warren in such trouble already. Wow.
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Re: Iowa caucus....the Butt is a....head......
Posted by: Acer
Date: February 06, 2020 08:51AM
Warren in particular has been dropping like a rock. Not that long ago she was a Democrat golden child. I think she lost it when she tried to pace Bernie with her policies. The Berns weren't changing candidates an the non-Berns weren't going along.

And sorry, no one is excited about Biden. Yeah, like likewarm coffee at the Country Buffet, we'll take it if that's all there is, but that's about as far as it goes.
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Re: Iowa caucus....the Butt is a....head......
Posted by: testcase
Date: February 06, 2020 10:35AM
" I love calling him "Butter Keg""


I always think of him as "Butt Plug".......... boink smiley
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Re: Iowa caucus....the Butt is a....head......
Posted by: neophyte
Date: February 06, 2020 11:01AM
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Steve G.


...He is an absolute pleasure to listen to. He expresses himself better than anyone else in the race. ...

This.

1) Biden can't seem to string words together to make a complete sentence. Is this a reflection of his brain's inability to make a complete thought before engaging his vocal cords?

2) Warren's vocals come across as almost as shrill outrage (at least to me). Sometimes Bernie's do too. Outrage can be good, but is not sufficient to indicate a thoughtful demeanor I expect from the POTUS.

3) Buttigieg's fluent and complete sentence structure implies a controlled and complete thought process. I think this is what draws his votes.
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Re: Iowa caucus....the Butt is a....head......
Posted by: Ammo
Date: February 06, 2020 12:13PM
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testcase
" I love calling him "Butter Keg""


I always think of him as "Butt Plug".......... boink smiley

I think of him as a gay man who doesn’t deserve any snarky comments about his personal life.



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Re: Iowa caucus....the Butt is a....head......
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: February 06, 2020 12:15PM
.....he seems very well spoken.....especially compared to some of the other candidates......



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Re: Iowa caucus....the Butt is a....head......
Posted by: DinerDave
Date: February 06, 2020 04:04PM
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Ammo
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" I love calling him "Butter Keg""


I always think of him as "Butt Plug".......... boink smiley

I think of him as a gay man who doesn’t deserve any snarky comments about his personal life.

Speaking for myself, my Butter Keg is solely a silly mispronouncing of his name. Nothing was meant by it. That is NOT the way I operate. As I said in my first post mentioning this, I knew little about him, except for newscasters stumbling over his name. I just made up my own version.

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Re: Iowa caucus....the Butt is a....head......
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: February 06, 2020 07:56PM
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vision63
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Filliam H. Muffman
The Dem machine results in Iowa:
- marginalize non-mainstream candidates
- cripple momentum of non-mainstream candidates into next primary
- turn off younger voters and cut turnout
- blame Bernie for demanding a change in the procedure that caused confusion

3 out of 4 ain't bad.

Nobody is more mainstream/establishment than Bernie. Nobody ever even heard of Buttigieg before.

I was talking about in the view of Dem insiders, not the public.



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Re: Iowa caucus....the Butt is a....head......
Posted by: RgrF
Date: February 06, 2020 11:16PM
Labeling Bernie an insider/mainstream at the same time the entire Democratic establishment is doing their best to keep him from nominating, borders on the sort of truth twisting Trump is so adept at.

You're better than that Vision.

PS: noticed the Mookie trade is on hold pending a medical on one of the Dodger pitchers being offered = there's a faint glimmer of hope yet for Sox fans,



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Re: Iowa caucus....the Butt is a....head......
Posted by: vision63
Date: February 07, 2020 02:35AM
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RgrF
Labeling Bernie an insider/mainstream at the same time the entire Democratic establishment is doing their best to keep him from nominating, borders on the sort of truth twisting Trump is so adept at.

You're better than that Vision.

PS: noticed the Mookie trade is on hold pending a medical on one of the Dodger pitchers being offered = there's a faint glimmer of hope yet for Sox fans,

Bernie has never done anything remotely "radical" as a house member or senator. He just attached himself to other's legislations and declared that he "led the way." This is a man that voted against the Brady Bill 5 times. Voted against Ted Kennedy's Immigration Reform, voted against National Healthcare in 1993, voted "for" the Crime Bill and on and on. The only radical thing he hangs his hat on is voting against authorizing the Iraq Invasion, this of course "after" voting to invade Afghanistan and voting to support ever escalation of the Iraq War.

The Bosox/Dodgers trade is just a glitch. In a way, I wouldn't mind if Mookie stayed in Boston. The fans don't deserve that really.
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Re: Iowa caucus....the Butt is a....head......
Posted by: $tevie
Date: February 07, 2020 12:55PM
I'm still waiting for examples of what Bernie has accomplished in his decades of life. Besides being photographed at one civil rights march and putting his name on a couple of bills.



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Re: Iowa caucus....the Butt is a....head......
Posted by: $tevie
Date: February 07, 2020 09:16PM
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" I love calling him "Butter Keg""


I always think of him as "Butt Plug".......... boink smiley
Bernie Bro alert.



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Re: Iowa caucus....the Butt is a....head......
Posted by: vision63
Date: February 07, 2020 09:25PM
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$tevie
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testcase
" I love calling him "Butter Keg""


I always think of him as "Butt Plug".......... boink smiley
Bernie Bro alert.

The most important thing is with 100% reporting in Iowa. Bernie lost. hahahahahahahaha!
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Re: Iowa caucus....the Butt is a....head......
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: February 07, 2020 09:58PM
.......so he.....BERN'd....that bridge.....???



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Re: Iowa caucus....the Butt is a....head......
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: February 08, 2020 01:45PM
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vision63
The most important thing is with 100% reporting in Iowa. Bernie lost. hahahahahahahaha!

Excellent that the plans are coming together for all the remaining Clinton insiders.



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Re: Iowa caucus....the Butt is a....head......
Posted by: vision63
Date: February 09, 2020 03:53PM
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Filliam H. Muffman
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vision63
The most important thing is with 100% reporting in Iowa. Bernie lost. hahahahahahahaha!

Excellent that the plans are coming together for all the remaining Clinton insiders.

Muthaphuka lost. He needs to. He's the Trump of the left. He's no Democrat now is he? Unlike other Democrats, I'm not afraid to call him out on hisshit. Stop being brainwashed. You know how to resolve and solve anything. He doesn't know how to fix anything. How can you respect him?



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Re: Iowa caucus....the Butt is a....head......
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: February 10, 2020 01:11PM
You were just saying Bernie is a mainstream candidate...

Bernie came in second by 0.1%. The person that Muthaphukin lost was Biden.



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Re: Iowa caucus....the Butt is a....head......
Posted by: RgrF
Date: February 10, 2020 01:15PM
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Filliam H. Muffman
You were just saying Bernie is a mainstream candidate...

Bernie came in second by 0.1%. The person that Muthaphukin lost was Biden.

The Dem establishment would rather Trump win than give up control to Dem voters. Win or lose there are appointments to make and jobs to fill, they won't give those up without a fight.
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Re: Iowa caucus....the Butt is a....head......
Posted by: RgrF
Date: February 10, 2020 01:20PM
Another line of attack is the revival of the “Bernie Bro” as a means to discredit the Sanders campaign. A central trope of the 2016 campaign, based on anecdotal evidence and repeated endlessly by Clinton supporters and journalists, the idea that Sanders supporters are predominantly white, male and viciously offensive on social media lingers on—despite its utter lack of basis in reality.
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Re: Iowa caucus....the Butt is a....head......
Posted by: vision63
Date: February 10, 2020 01:39PM
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RgrF
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Filliam H. Muffman
You were just saying Bernie is a mainstream candidate...

Bernie came in second by 0.1%. The person that Muthaphukin lost was Biden.

The Dem establishment would rather Trump win than give up control to Dem voters. Win or lose there are appointments to make and jobs to fill, they won't give those up without a fight.

Make whatever fantasies you need to conjure up to sooth the loss by a man that spent $50 million bucks, with 200 staffers and 2000 volunteers working a state since 2016 only to lose to an unknown. The rest of the losers only spent a fraction of that with much less time in Iowa over a much shorter span of time.

He's leading in NH. Onward. And Filliam, they're competing for delegates.
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Re: Iowa caucus....the Butt is a....head......
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: February 10, 2020 02:16PM
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RgrF
The Dem establishment would rather Trump win than give up control to Dem voters. Win or lose there are appointments to make and jobs to fill, they won't give those up without a fight.

NO WAY!

With a Bernie win, they have at least an ally in the White House.

They have nothing with a tRump win except four more years of his administration's deconstruction of programs they've worked for for years, and four more years of his divisive lies and criminal self-serving.
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Re: Iowa caucus....the Butt is a....head......
Posted by: Ted King
Date: February 10, 2020 06:25PM
This is why we can't have nice things.
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Re: Iowa caucus....the Butt is a....head......
Posted by: RgrF
Date: February 10, 2020 07:17PM
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Ted King
This is why we can't have nice things.

BINGO!!!
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Re: Iowa caucus....the Butt is a....head......
Posted by: vision63
Date: February 11, 2020 11:49AM
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RgrF
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Ted King
This is why we can't have nice things.

BINGO!!!

You got no cards. Bernie is waging a referendum on socialism and not against Trump.
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Re: Iowa caucus....the Butt is a....head......
Posted by: Ted King
Date: February 11, 2020 05:37PM
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Ted King
This is why we can't have nice things.

I might have been too cryptic here. I wasn't "arguing" for any side. I was reflecting on the consequences of the kinds of conversations among liberals that is happening here and a lot of other liberal places.
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Re: Iowa caucus....the Butt is a....head......
Posted by: RgrF
Date: February 11, 2020 08:28PM
Not sure about others but I took it that way, the anti-Trump faction attacking each other.
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Re: Iowa caucus....the Butt is a....head......
Posted by: Sam3
Date: February 12, 2020 03:32AM
Which is why Trump will win again.

Infighting among the unherdable cats.



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Re: Iowa caucus....the Butt is a....head......
Posted by: vision63
Date: February 12, 2020 11:22AM
Only ONE attacks the party and institution consistently. It's Sanders and he needs to suspend his race. None of the others (sometimes Warren) are doing that. Y'all sound like the parents that blame all the kids when only one of them of messing up.
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Re: Iowa caucus....the Butt is a....head......
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: February 12, 2020 11:57AM
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vision63
It's Sanders and he needs to suspend his race.

You have to know THAT is not going to happen.
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