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LTC Vindman fired by White House, and his brother too.
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: February 07, 2020 03:40PM
Lt. Col. Alex Vindman, the top Ukraine expert at the National Security Council, was pushed out of his role Friday months earlier than expected, according to a statement from his attorney. Vindman was not slated to leave until July, but had been telling colleagues in recent weeks he would likely leave soon.

Vindman, a decorated veteran who was born in Ukraine, was escorted out of the White House by security and told his services were no longer needed, according to Vindman's lawyer, David Pressman.
His twin brother Lt. Col. Yevgeny Vindman, a National Security Council attorney, was also fired and walked off the White House grounds alongside him.

[www.cnn.com]



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Re: LTC Vindman fired by White House, and his brother too.
Posted by: rjmacs
Date: February 07, 2020 03:48PM
It's probably not technically accurate to call these "firings" or "dismissals," since the administration is making the changes as part of a restructuring of the NSC. Yes, it's still the same dirty outcome but a legitimate protocol was followed, so it's not recorded as a penalty against either Vindman's HR file.



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Re: LTC Vindman fired by White House, and his brother too.
Posted by: mattkime
Date: February 07, 2020 03:48PM
HERO



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Re: LTC Vindman fired by White House, and his brother too.
Posted by: mattkime
Date: February 07, 2020 03:49PM
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rjmacs
It's probably not technically accurate to call these "firings" or "dismissals,"


...and yet the message is clear.
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Re: LTC Vindman fired by White House, and his brother too.
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: February 07, 2020 03:49PM
Everything leads back to Putin, including Trump's police state ways.
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Re: LTC Vindman fired by White House, and his brother too.
Posted by: steve...
Date: February 07, 2020 03:52PM
Vindman is expected to return to the Pentagon, though it's still unclear what his assignment will be until he's expected to attend war college this summer.

Hopefully the next Administration (Democrat) will undo the wrong he and his brother have endured.




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Re: LTC Vindman fired by White House, and his brother too.
Posted by: rjmacs
Date: February 07, 2020 03:59PM
All he has to do to end their careers is revoke their clearances, which he can do without explanation. Wonder why he hasn't?



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Re: LTC Vindman fired by White House, and his brother too.
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: February 07, 2020 04:37PM
Maybe he will get reinstated if he murders some POWs.
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Re: LTC Vindman fired by White House, and his brother too.
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: February 07, 2020 05:43PM
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rjmacs
All he has to do to end their careers is revoke their clearances, which he can do without explanation. Wonder why he hasn't?

Probably hasn't thought of it.

He's not the sharpest tack.

...But he's got enough sycophants around him and on Faux News that some schmuck will remind him that he can do that.



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Re: LTC Vindman fired by White House, and his brother too.
Posted by: GGD
Date: February 07, 2020 08:04PM
Has he fired the whistle blower yet?

And where is Rudy going to land when the dust settles?
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Re: LTC Vindman fired by White House, and his brother too.
Posted by: sekker
Date: February 07, 2020 10:12PM
So very sad
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Re: LTC Vindman fired by White House, and his brother too.
Posted by: Bill in NC
Date: February 08, 2020 09:52AM
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rjmacs
It's probably not technically accurate to call these "firings" or "dismissals," since the administration is making the changes as part of a restructuring of the NSC. Yes, it's still the same dirty outcome but a legitimate protocol was followed, so it's not recorded as a penalty against either Vindman's HR file.

Yep, don't see any impediment to them both retiring at O-6.
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Re: LTC Vindman fired by White House, and his brother too.
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: February 08, 2020 11:30AM
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Bill in NC
Yep, don't see any impediment to them both retiring at O-6.

That will depend on who they know, and if Trump is reelected. Promotion at the level is political more than anything.

I have two friends who retired O-6 (USAF) and another who retired O-5 (Army), all have said at that level almost all officers are good enough to move up a rank, so the next step is more about who you know. If you hooked your wagon to the right General, you will move up.

One O-6 was slated for Brigadier General but didn't want the desk job after commanding a Wing and still flying fighters. The other was SAC pilot flying B-52's during the 70s' and 80s'. He left when the USSR crumbled and there were more bomber pilots than flights.

The Army LTC hooked himself to a General who unexpectedly retired due to health. He said it was too late to switch to a different patron. So he just took retirement as well.

Vindman won't go up if Trump stays in as no one wants to upset the Commander in Chief or the appointees below him.



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