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All COVID-19 Discussion GOES HERE
Posted by: mrp-admin
Date: April 13, 2020 09:42AM
Hi -

For the duration - if you want to discuss COVID-19, please bring it here because it always seems to go political.

NO NEW THREADS. ALL IN ONE PLEASE.

Thank you
MRF-Admin
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Re: All COVID-19 Discussion GOES HERE
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: April 13, 2020 09:52AM
Totally fair enough and thanks for setting this up. We are sorry we make too much work for you. We appreciate this little community even more as ALL of our contacts are virtual in nauture.
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Re: All COVID-19 Discussion GOES HERE
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: April 13, 2020 09:55AM
Are you saying it all goes here, as in this thread only?
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Re: All COVID-19 Discussion GOES HERE
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: April 13, 2020 10:07AM
....threading.....the needle.....



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Re: All COVID-19 Discussion GOES HERE
Posted by: mrp-admin
Date: April 13, 2020 10:30AM
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Lux Interior
Are you saying it all goes here, as in this thread only?

Honestly, since the political side is a free for all - post whatever you want. All in this thread or start a new. Many will NOT read the political side at all but if linked to this thread will read it at least.
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Re: All COVID-19 Discussion GOES HERE
Posted by: Acer
Date: April 13, 2020 10:46AM
Welcome to the dark side! We have cookies.

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Re: All COVID-19 Discussion GOES HERE
Posted by: TheCaber
Date: April 13, 2020 11:12AM
Mmmmm, cookies!



=TC
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Re: All COVID-19 Discussion GOES HERE
Posted by: Buck
Date: April 13, 2020 11:18AM
Well, that's one way to boost traffic on this side.
'Friendly' Political Ranting -- where everything is Trump's faultsmiling smiley
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Re: All COVID-19 Discussion GOES HERE
Posted by: Buck
Date: April 13, 2020 11:19AM
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TheCaber
Mmmmm, cookies!
That would have tempted me before the low carb diet.
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Re: All COVID-19 Discussion GOES HERE
Posted by: Carm
Date: April 13, 2020 11:51AM
Thank you, I have somewhere to talk about my Bidet install, because you know hoarding caused by Public Freakout.
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Re: All COVID-19 Discussion GOES HERE
Posted by: jonny
Date: April 13, 2020 11:58AM
Yay! So nice to have tips and deals released from quarantine!
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Re: All COVID-19 Discussion GOES HERE
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: April 13, 2020 01:29PM
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jonny
Yay! So nice to have tips and deals released from quarantine!
No more social distancing ! You can respond to threads right next to each other ! smiley-shocked003
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Re: All COVID-19 Discussion GOES HERE
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: April 13, 2020 01:31PM
All jocularity aside....

TRUMP PLANS TO FIRE FAUCI FOR TELLING THE TRUTH !!!!
[www.cnn.com]

Except the White House says.. pay no attention to the tweeting Toddler..
[www.nbcnews.com]

Are we actually reaching the point where grownups are starting to counteract the Crazy Child ? I hope so... too many people have died because of his infantile tweet insanity.
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Re: All COVID-19 Discussion GOES HERE
Posted by: lost in space
Date: April 13, 2020 02:16PM
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cbelt3
All jocularity aside....

TRUMP PLANS TO FIRE FAUCI FOR TELLING THE TRUTH !!!!
[www.cnn.com]

Except the White House says.. pay no attention to the tweeting Toddler..
[www.nbcnews.com]

Are we actually reaching the point where grownups are starting to counteract the Crazy Child ? I hope so... too many people have died because of his infantile tweet insanity.

Too late now. They've been fired. More to follow.



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Re: All COVID-19 Discussion GOES HERE
Posted by: DinerDave
Date: April 13, 2020 02:20PM
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Buck

'Friendly' Political Ranting -- where everything is Trump's faultsmiling smiley

smiley-laughing001

I agree 100%

Dave



Welcome to Dave's BBQ!

Many have eaten here....

Few have died
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Re: All COVID-19 Discussion GOES HERE
Posted by: Acer
Date: April 13, 2020 03:18PM
We like to call it "Fair and Balanced"
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Re: All COVID-19 Discussion GOES HERE
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: April 13, 2020 04:47PM
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Buck
Well, that's one way to boost traffic on this side.
'Friendly' Political Ranting -- where everything is Trump's faultsmiling smiley

It's only really his fault between 90 degrees N latitude and 90 degrees S latitude.



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Re: All COVID-19 Discussion GOES HERE
Posted by: S. Pupp
Date: April 13, 2020 06:17PM
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mrp-admin
For the duration - if you want to discuss COVID-19, please bring it here because it always seems to go political.

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Re: All COVID-19 Discussion GOES HERE
Posted by: deckeda
Date: April 13, 2020 07:46PM
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mrp-admin

Sorry it's come to this...

Thank you
MRF-Admin

And I'm sorry that anyone seeking information about, or a shared experience regarding covid-19 will be forced to come to grips with the reality that a pandemic doesn't occur in a vacuum, independent of politics.

Yeah, it really is a shame.
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Re: All COVID-19 Discussion GOES HERE
Posted by: pqrst
Date: April 14, 2020 04:08AM
Agree with This kind of change.
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Re: All COVID-19 Discussion GOES HERE
Posted by: Speedy
Date: April 14, 2020 06:31AM
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deckeda
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mrp-admin

Sorry it's come to this...

Thank you
MRF-Admin

And I'm sorry that anyone seeking information about, or a shared experience regarding covid-19 will be forced to come to grips with the reality that a pandemic doesn't occur in a vacuum, independent of politics.

Yeah, it really is a shame.

I agree. Important information is mandated to be posted to this side. I guess when the response to this pandemic has been so badly handled that comments about it must be moved to this side to protect the sensitivities of some members, it’s sad. Truth hurts.



Saint Cloud, Minnesota, where the weather is wonderful even when it isn't.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/14/2020 06:35AM by Speedy.
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Re: All COVID-19 Discussion GOES HERE
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: April 14, 2020 07:06AM
UK experience... this is why PPE is critical. And why the Federal government's incompetence in the US can become critical. Because when so many medical professionals become ill, healthcare collapses and every very sick patient WILL die.

[www.cnn.com]
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Re: All COVID-19 Discussion GOES HERE
Posted by: voodoopenguin
Date: April 14, 2020 08:34AM


Paul



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Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: April 14, 2020 08:57AM
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voodoopenguin


Paul

This is excellent. Thank you.
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Posted by: Grateful11
Date: April 14, 2020 11:55AM
My nephew sent me this this morning. I've been looking for something like this for a while and this one explains it best to me.

'Why Did The World Shut Down For COVID-19 But Not Ebola, SARS Or Swine Flu?'

[fivethirtyeight.com]



Grateful11
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Re: All COVID-19 Discussion GOES HERE
Posted by: pdq
Date: April 14, 2020 12:38PM
Someone said this in 2014:

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There may and likely will come a time in which we have both an airborne disease that is deadly. And in order for us to deal with that effectively, we have to put in place an infrastructure — not just here at home, but globally — that allows us to see it quickly, isolate it quickly, respond to it quickly. And it also requires us to continue the same path of basic research that is being done here at NIH...

So that if and when a new strain of flu, like the Spanish flu, crops up five years from now or a decade from now, we’ve made the investment and we’re further along to be able to catch it. It is a smart investment for us to make. It’s not just insurance; it is knowing that down the road we’re going to continue to have problems like this — particularly in a globalized world where you move from one side of the world to the other in a day.

Oddly enough, not a word about “total authority”.
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Re: All COVID-19 Discussion GOES HERE
Posted by: Speedy
Date: April 14, 2020 02:51PM
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pdq
Someone said this in 2014:

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There may and likely will come a time in which we have both an airborne disease that is deadly. And in order for us to deal with that effectively, we have to put in place an infrastructure — not just here at home, but globally — that allows us to see it quickly, isolate it quickly, respond to it quickly. And it also requires us to continue the same path of basic research that is being done here at NIH...

So that if and when a new strain of flu, like the Spanish flu, crops up five years from now or a decade from now, we’ve made the investment and we’re further along to be able to catch it. It is a smart investment for us to make. It’s not just insurance; it is knowing that down the road we’re going to continue to have problems like this — particularly in a globalized world where you move from one side of the world to the other in a day.

Oddly enough, not a word about “total authority”.

Well, I knew it couldn’t have been Pres. Trump who said it because he can’t string three sentences together without screwing it up.



Saint Cloud, Minnesota, where the weather is wonderful even when it isn't.
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Re: All COVID-19 Discussion GOES HERE
Posted by: timg
Date: April 14, 2020 04:32PM
Anyone see Governor Newsom's big announcement today?

What a bunch of crap that was. No specifics, just vague "we need all of this to happen" with no timeline.



Skill without imagination is craftsmanship. Imagination without skill is Modern Art.
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Re: All COVID-19 Discussion GOES HERE
Posted by: hal
Date: April 14, 2020 05:18PM
There is no timeline - how can anyone know the timeline? There are conditions that have to be met before any dates are announced. CA is now reaching its peak in infections (we hope). Would you rather he just pull a date out of his ass like Trump's Easter date? How does that help?
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Re: All COVID-19 Discussion GOES HERE
Posted by: Speedy
Date: April 14, 2020 07:35PM
Yup, the virus determines the timeline. But at least the governor has a plan which is more than I can say for the president.



Saint Cloud, Minnesota, where the weather is wonderful even when it isn't.
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Re: All COVID-19 Discussion GOES HERE
Posted by: wave rider
Date: April 15, 2020 01:03AM
An addition to this thread: [forums.macresource.com]

A friend of mine passed today from the COVID-19.

He, his wife, and I drove city bus for many years. Great guy, big heart, so funny. I was the photographer for their daughter’s quenceanera. His wife has tested positive too, fingers crossed for her.

The bunch of us hired back then grew up together on the job. Everyone is saddened and shaken.

Be safe…



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Re: All COVID-19 Discussion GOES HERE
Posted by: deckeda
Date: April 15, 2020 06:26AM
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Speedy
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deckeda
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mrp-admin

Sorry it's come to this...

Thank you
MRF-Admin

And I'm sorry that anyone seeking information about, or a shared experience regarding covid-19 will be forced to come to grips with the reality that a pandemic doesn't occur in a vacuum, independent of politics.

Yeah, it really is a shame.

I agree. Important information is mandated to be posted to this side. I guess when the response to this pandemic has been so badly handled that comments about it must be moved to this side to protect the sensitivities of some members, it’s sad. Truth hurts.

It’s part and parcel, and the result of confusing criticism with “controversy.”
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Re: All COVID-19 Discussion GOES HERE
Posted by: deckeda
Date: April 15, 2020 06:32AM
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pdq
Someone said this in 2014:

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There may and likely will come a time in which we have both an airborne disease that is deadly. And in order for us to deal with that effectively, we have to put in place an infrastructure — not just here at home, but globally — that allows us to see it quickly, isolate it quickly, respond to it quickly. And it also requires us to continue the same path of basic research that is being done here at NIH...

So that if and when a new strain of flu, like the Spanish flu, crops up five years from now or a decade from now, we’ve made the investment and we’re further along to be able to catch it. It is a smart investment for us to make. It’s not just insurance; it is knowing that down the road we’re going to continue to have problems like this — particularly in a globalized world where you move from one side of the world to the other in a day.

Oddly enough, not a word about “total authority”.

We know it’s nearly impossible to get many people to support something they cannot literally see or touch, or that cannot be proven to impact them personally. These are abstract concepts, and “theoretical” (considered false).

Oh, unless there’s a really good story attached to it as a distraction. Then they’re all-in. See also: organized religion
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Re: All COVID-19 Discussion GOES HERE
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: April 15, 2020 08:27AM
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wave rider
An addition to this thread: [forums.macresource.com]

A friend of mine passed today from the COVID-19.

He, his wife, and I drove city bus for many years. Great guy, big heart, so funny. I was the photographer for their daughter’s quenceanera. His wife has tested positive too, fingers crossed for her.

The bunch of us hired back then grew up together on the job. Everyone is saddened and shaken.

Be safe…

Very sorry to hear about the loss of your friend.
take good care.
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Re: All COVID-19 Discussion GOES HERE
Posted by: Yoyodyne ArtWorks
Date: April 15, 2020 11:38AM
As of this morning, a little over 2 million confirmed cases and almost 130,000 deaths. That works out to a roughly 6.5% fatality rate, a lot higher than the 1-2% rate bandied about a month or two ago. Is anybody in government/media discussing this alarming figure?



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Posted by: rjmacs
Date: April 15, 2020 11:58AM
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Yoyodyne ArtWorks
As of this morning, a little over 2 million confirmed cases and almost 130,000 deaths. That works out to a roughly 6.5% fatality rate, a lot higher than the 1-2% rate bandied about a month or two ago. Is anybody in government/media discussing this alarming figure?

Until we actually have surveillance sampling in place where cases are reported (weeks and months away in many spots), we won't know what the broader infection rate is. We should not assume that 'confirmed cases' in any way approximates total cases.



rj
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Vreemac, Moth of the Future
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Apple makes Maps search trend data available
Posted by: lost in space
Date: April 15, 2020 12:41PM
apple

Interesting to see how much travel and methods of travel have changed. Public transportation takes a big hit. No surprise there.







Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/15/2020 12:43PM by lost in space.
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Re: All COVID-19 Discussion GOES HERE
Posted by: timg
Date: April 15, 2020 02:04PM
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Speedy
Yup, the virus determines the timeline. But at least the governor has a plan which is more than I can say for the president.

The governor does NOT have a plan. He just listed a bunch of things that need to happen, with NO PLAN of how to get those things done.

What did he announce they were doing to get those 6 things in place? Nothing at all.
I guess they will just wait until they happen on their own or someone else does it.

Political BS.



Skill without imagination is craftsmanship. Imagination without skill is Modern Art.
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Re: All COVID-19 Discussion GOES HERE: Folding@Home
Posted by: DP
Date: April 15, 2020 05:29PM
Too bad I have to post this here but this is something that I think might be of interest regarding the virus and should be exempt from politics. Might be worth looking into for someone here.

Do you know that Folding@Home is also working on CoVid-19 solutions? I didn't till I got this from MicroCenter. They ask to join their team but I'm sure Forum F@H teams can work for this too:



Link:

[community.microcenter.com]





Disclaimer: This post is checked for correct spelling, punctuation, and grammar. Any attempts at humor are solely the responsibility of the author and bear no claim that any and all readers will approve or appreciate said attempt at humor.
My name is DP, and I approve this message.
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Re: All COVID-19 Discussion GOES HERE: Folding@Home
Posted by: deckeda
Date: April 15, 2020 07:01PM
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DP
Too bad I have to post this here but ...

Oh, you can post over there, you just have to do it like everyone else posting about strange shopping experiences of hard to find items (why are things hard to find?) or about their stimulus check received (for what? Why are there stimulus checks?) or posts about good news you have (why, is something bad happening somewhere in the news?)

It’s ALL about the packaging, friend.

SHAME on MicrCenter for using the covid word in their graphic, tho. Controversy!
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Re: All COVID-19 Discussion GOES HERE
Posted by: Sam3
Date: April 16, 2020 05:17AM
I don't see why this couldn't be posted on the tips side, as it is a tip regarding Folding@home.



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Re: All COVID-19 Discussion GOES HERE
Posted by: deckeda
Date: April 16, 2020 06:17AM
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Sam3
I don't see why this couldn't be posted on the tips side, as it is a tip regarding Folding@home.

I’d agree, but a distinction wasn’t made for “what kinds” of Covid talk are OK to talk about. That would involve forum moderation which of course does not exist.
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Posted by: numbered
Date: April 17, 2020 11:33AM
fwiw, there was some whinging about why anyone was bothering with antibody tests.

From the medrxiv preprint server:

Santa Clara County results are in based on 3330 people on 4/3 and 4/4:

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The unadjusted prevalence of antibodies to SARS-CoV-2 in Santa Clara County was 1.5% (exact binomial 95CI 1.11-1.97%), and the population-weighted prevalence was 2.81% (95CI 2.24-3.37%). Under the three scenarios for test performance characteristics, the population prevalence of COVID-19 in Santa Clara ranged from 2.49% (95CI 1.80-3.17%) to 4.16% (2.58-5.70%). These prevalence estimates represent a range between 48,000 and 81,000 people infected in Santa Clara County by early April, 50-85-fold more than the number of confirmed cases. Conclusions The population prevalence of SARS-CoV-2 antibodies in Santa Clara County implies that the infection is much more widespread than indicated by the number of confirmed cases. Population prevalence estimates can now be used to calibrate epidemic and mortality projections.
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Re: All COVID-19 Discussion GOES HERE
Posted by: RgrF
Date: April 17, 2020 06:26PM
This is the sort of real information that ought to available to the forum as a whole, not confined to a thread in a nook or cranny that needs to be hunted down..

Get real Amin, we're talking about lives here not red or blue !!!
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Posted by: Sarcany
Date: April 17, 2020 07:35PM
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RgrF
This is the sort of real information that ought to available to the forum as a whole, not confined to a thread in a nook or cranny that needs to be hunted down..

Get real Amin, we're talking about lives here not red or blue !!!

Hmmm... Well, just spitballing here...

in a discussion on the matter, someone *might* mention that the federal government is doing next to nothing to encourage testing or bring easy-access to tests -- whether virus or antibody -- to the general public.

That might lead to some highly descriptive language. Something like "sedition" on the part of the "orange menace and the cohorts he has appointed to tear apart the federal government and ensure the demise of this nation as a world power."

So, maybe this is the right side of the forum for this stuff after all.



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Re: All COVID-19 Discussion GOES HERE
Posted by: timg
Date: April 17, 2020 10:32PM
I can see it being relegated to this side, but why is it all jammed into one thread?

I agree, this should be out where more people can see it.

if not on the normal side, at least as a proper subject of its own.



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Re: All COVID-19 Discussion GOES HERE
Posted by: pdq
Date: April 18, 2020 09:25AM
LIBERATE THE THREAD!

(Just kidding mods, we love you.)
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Re: All COVID-19 Discussion GOES HERE
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: April 18, 2020 10:10AM
As the admin mentioned, anyone can start a new virus related-thread on the FPR side. Doesn't have to be in this thread.
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Re: All COVID-19 Discussion GOES HERE
Posted by: davester
Date: April 18, 2020 10:14AM
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Lemon Drop
As the admin mentioned, anyone can start a new virus related-thread on the FPR side. Doesn't have to be in this thread.

Yep. The title of the thread only applies to the Tips and Deals side. Title has to stay the same for a moved thread on the Ranting side. Unfortunately, some people only read thread titles and newspaper headlines and stay uninformed because they do't bother reading the actual text.



"In science it often happens that scientists say, 'You know that's a really good argument; my position is mistaken,' and then they would actually change their minds and you never hear that old view from them again. They really do it. It doesn't happen as often as it should, because scientists are human and change is sometimes painful. But it happens every day. I cannot recall the last time something like that happened in politics or religion." (1987) -- Carl Sagan
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Re: All COVID-19 Discussion GOES HERE
Posted by: numbered
Date: April 18, 2020 12:55PM
My bad, I did not see the admin instruction. I should have started a new thread on this side...
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