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Stanford antibody research tainted by email from researcher's wife
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: April 27, 2020 11:37AM
Weird science story. Stanford not inspiring confidence lately.

The wife of a Stanford professor solicited parents via email in Los Altos to join her husband's coronavirus antibody study, falsely claiming that the tests were "FDA approved" and would tell participants whether they were immune, potentially comprising the study's findings, according to BuzzFeed News.

The email was sent April 2 to parents with children attending Ardis G. Egan Junior High School with the subject line, "COVID-19 antibody testing - FREE." It went on to say, gain “peace of mind” and “know if you are immune." The email was sent by Catherine Su (without her husbands knowledge), a radiation oncologist married to Jay Bhattacharya, who was co-leading the Stanford study with Dr. Eran Bendavid.


[www.sfgate.com]
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Re: Stanford antibody research tainted by email from researcher's wife
Posted by: JoeH
Date: April 27, 2020 11:49AM
This keeps getting worse, the researchers already had made statements indicating bias before doing this research that tainted the results:

[www.salon.com]
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Re: Stanford antibody research tainted by email from researcher's wife
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: April 27, 2020 12:26PM
Thanks for sharing this article Joe.
Good quote from Dr. Caitlin Rivers (I follow her on twitter, plus Trevor Bradford, Carl Bergstrom and a few other scientists. Fascinating conversations going on). Bergstrom has been saying "what's in the water at Stanford?" for a while now.

Caitlin Rivers, an epidemiologist at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, argued that antibody tests will certainly show that the coronavirus death rate is considerably lower than the total deaths compared to the total confirmed cases "but it's excruciatingly clear that this virus is many times worse than influenza and capable of overwhelming health systems."

"Doing careful science is tricky even in the best of times… usually takes teams of experts and peer reviewers to get a good piece of work over the finish line. In a crisis, the normal process is rushed or skipped and it can hurt quality," she explained. "New findings should be added to the weight of evidence. Science is an accumulation of knowledge. Rarely are there blockbuster findings that completely change our understanding. So next time you see a claim that seems too clever, it probably is."
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Re: Stanford antibody research tainted by email from researcher's wife
Posted by: Lew Zealand
Date: April 27, 2020 12:46PM
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So next time you see a claim that seems too clever, it probably is."

Always this. Always always.
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Re: Stanford antibody research tainted by email from researcher's wife
Posted by: anonymouse1
Date: April 27, 2020 02:12PM
IIRC, these folks are affiliated with the Hoover Institute, which is far right-wing.
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Re: Stanford antibody research tainted by email from researcher's wife
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: April 27, 2020 02:21PM
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anonymouse1
IIRC, these folks are affiliated with the Hoover Institute, which is far right-wing.

These researchers are at Stanford Medical school.

The Hoover Institution is also based at Stanford; they are a public policy and economics think tank, yes very right wing.
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Re: Stanford antibody research tainted by email from researcher's wife
Posted by: JoeH
Date: April 27, 2020 03:14PM
Jay Bhattacharya was a research fellow at the Hoover Institute, did not bother to check on the other author - [www.hoover.org]

So being a researcher at Stanford Medical does not preclude also being associated with something else based at Stanford.
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Re: Stanford antibody research tainted by email from researcher's wife
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: April 27, 2020 03:27PM
He WAS, as part of a very long CV of academic work, but his role now is jointly with Stanford Medical and the Freeman Spogli Institute of International Affairs, which is headed by uber Democrat and Obama's appointee as ambassador to Russia, and very vocal Trump critic, Michael McFaul.

So without knowing anything about the politics of the Stanford medical researchers', I would be cautious about making assumptions about political bias in their COVID work. I don't see any evidence of that now.
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Re: Stanford antibody research tainted by email from researcher's wife
Posted by: Ca Bob
Date: April 28, 2020 02:35AM
There may be something weird about the results, but if so, it's probably due to the chemistry rather than a modest taint in patient acquisition. I've been wondering if a small fraction of the population has preexisting antibodies that cross react with Covid-19's infectious agent. Maybe they had a cold that was due to a Corona virus that is distantly related to this one.

We also don't know how good these antibodies are in stimulating an immune response.
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