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Anyone see this? Hong Kong Security Law ...
Posted by: timg
Date: June 30, 2020 01:20PM
Passed by the Chinese Central Government ... No one is even sure what is in it yet.

[www.bbc.com]

With the world's preoccupation with CoronaVirus and Trumps latest antics, it looks like China took the opportunity to get what they wanted.

NO MORE HONG KONG PROTESTS!



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Re: Anyone see this? Hong Kong Security Law ...
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: June 30, 2020 01:25PM
I'm confident trump will impose sanctions (especially trade sanctions) of China for this and the million person Muslim internment camps.

No? What am I missing here?
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Re: Anyone see this? Hong Kong Security Law ...
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: June 30, 2020 01:56PM
The only action has been for the US to revoke Hong Kong's "Special trade status".

[www.ft.com]

"The US will bar the export of weapons and sensitive technology to Hong Kong, as it revokes the territory’s special trade status in response to China’s imposition of national security legislation on the Asian financial hub.
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Considering that special export licensure for weapons and sensitive technology has always been a bit of a joke (from my perspective), this is a small pat on the back of the wrist.
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Re: Anyone see this? Hong Kong Security Law ...
Posted by: timg
Date: June 30, 2020 02:51PM
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Steve G.
I'm confident trump will impose sanctions (especially trade sanctions) of China for this and the million person Muslim internment camps.

No? What am I missing here?

Was thinking more in terms of the implications for the Hong Kong people, not so much what Trump might do.

China has been trying to get this law since the early 2000s and now they finally saw an opportunity and seized it.

I know people from Hong Kong and my wife has relatives there. Not a good day for freedom.



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Re: Anyone see this? Hong Kong Security Law ...
Posted by: pdq
Date: June 30, 2020 03:38PM
This is what happens when it becomes obvious trying to please the American president is a fool’s errand.
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Re: Anyone see this? Hong Kong Security Law ...
Posted by: timg
Date: June 30, 2020 04:00PM
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pdq
This is what happens when it becomes obvious trying to please the American president is a fool’s errand.

I think more to the point, this is what happens when the American President is a fool.



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Re: Anyone see this? Hong Kong Security Law ...
Posted by: rjmacs
Date: June 30, 2020 04:13PM
We have abandoned the democracy-loving people of Hong Kong. confused smiley



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Re: Anyone see this? Hong Kong Security Law ...
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: June 30, 2020 04:31PM
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rjmacs
We have abandoned the democracy-loving people of Hong Kong. confused smiley

'Yeah, tell us about it.'
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Re: Anyone see this? Hong Kong Security Law ...
Posted by: Ted King
Date: June 30, 2020 04:55PM
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Steve G.
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rjmacs
We have abandoned the democracy-loving people of Hong Kong. confused smiley

'Yeah, tell us about it.'
-The Kurds

Transactional Trump. It's just business.
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Re: Anyone see this? Hong Kong Security Law ...
Posted by: $tevie
Date: June 30, 2020 09:18PM
This was the saddest thing I saw today, which is saying a lot.



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Re: Anyone see this? Hong Kong Security Law ...
Posted by: timg
Date: July 01, 2020 11:31AM
There have already been arrests made under the new law.

Hong Kong people still have freedom of speech, but only if what they say is in full support of the central government.



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Re: Anyone see this? Hong Kong Security Law ...
Posted by: hal
Date: July 01, 2020 12:34PM
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rjmacs
We have abandoned the democracy-loving people of Hong Kong. confused smiley

Yes - the USA is not a strong player in the world and China made their move. All these years, I was expecting it to be Taiwan, but I guess HK is more valuable.

The news today is just horrifying.
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Re: Anyone see this? Hong Kong Security Law ...
Posted by: Sam3
Date: July 02, 2020 03:21AM
If Hillary was President, I don't think China would have attempted this. But since we have a weak government, there you have it.

Don't count out Taiwan being next in their sites.



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