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What will Trump see at Mt Rushmore?
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: July 01, 2020 09:53PM

Friday- Trump gets the salute he deserves
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Re: What will Trump see at Mt Rushmore?
Posted by: S. Pupp
Date: July 02, 2020 08:02AM
I have no doubt he will see his own face up there, and try to make that happen.
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Re: What will Trump see at Mt Rushmore?
Posted by: p8712
Date: July 02, 2020 08:56AM


He'll see this...sweet Barry, First in his heart (after himself).
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Re: What will Trump see at Mt Rushmore?
Posted by: Speedy
Date: July 02, 2020 09:50AM
Great stuff!



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Re: What will Trump see at Mt Rushmore?
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: July 02, 2020 12:45PM
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p8712


He'll see this...sweet Barry, First in his heart (after himself).

Although I'd rather that monument revert to local control by tribes, if we have to add somebody, he's the one.

45's White Power Hour at Mt. Rushmore will be grotesque. Can't imagine anything else.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/02/2020 12:45PM by Lemon Drop.
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Re: What will Trump see at Mt Rushmore?
Posted by: samintx
Date: July 02, 2020 04:10PM
Let’s leave Rushmore alone. No more faces. Let us keep something stable and untouched even tho others may deserve it. Who do we have to do the carving so realistically?
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Re: What will Trump see at Mt Rushmore?
Posted by: RgrF
Date: July 02, 2020 05:11PM
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Lemon Drop
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p8712


He'll see this...sweet Barry, First in his heart (after himself).

Although I'd rather that monument revert to local control by tribes, if we have to add somebody, he's the one.

45's White Power Hour at Mt. Rushmore will be grotesque. Can't imagine anything else.

Make that (Obama) the new face of Stone Mountain?
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Re: What will Trump see at Mt Rushmore?
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: July 02, 2020 05:19PM
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RgrF

Make that (Obama) the new face of Stone Mountain?

That one won't be easy to solve. It's privately owned and part of a major commercial enterprise. Maybe they can let plants grow over it.


[www.theguardian.com]
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Re: What will Trump see at Mt Rushmore?
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: July 02, 2020 05:24PM
I didn't know that the man who sculpted Mt Rushmore and also was involved with Stone Mountain was a @#$%& leader??

Gutzon Borglum
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Re: What will Trump see at Mt Rushmore?
Posted by: RgrF
Date: July 02, 2020 05:37PM
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Lemon Drop
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RgrF

Make that (Obama) the new face of Stone Mountain?

That one won't be easy to solve. It's privately owned and part of a major commercial enterprise. Maybe they can let plants grow over it.

We need a tongue-in-cheek emoji!
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Re: What will Trump see at Mt Rushmore?
Posted by: Sam3
Date: July 03, 2020 03:47AM
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Lemon Drop
I didn't know that the man who sculpted Mt Rushmore and also was involved with Stone Mountain was a @#$%& leader??

Gutzon Borglum

The Guardian commentary said he was a sympathizer, not leader.



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Re: What will Trump see at Mt Rushmore?
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: July 03, 2020 06:51AM
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Lemon Drop
I didn't know that the man who sculpted Mt Rushmore and also was involved with Stone Mountain was a @#$%& leader??

Gutzon Borglum

The Guardian commentary said he was a sympathizer, not leader.




Reading his wiki entry:
Borglum was initially involved in the carving of Stone Mountain in Georgia. Borglum's nativist stances made him seem an ideologically sympathetic choice to carve a memorial to heroes of the Confederate States of America, planned for Stone Mountain, Georgia. In 1915, coinciding with the Klan-glorifying, highly successful The Birth of a Nation, he was approached by the United Daughters of the Confederacy with a project for sculpting a 20-foot (6 m) high bust of General Robert E. Lee on the mountain's 800-foot (240 m) rockface. Borglum accepted, but told the committee, "Ladies, a twenty-foot head of Lee on that mountainside would look like a postage stamp on a barn door."[41]

Borglum's ideas eventually evolved into a high-relief frieze of Lee, Jefferson Davis, and Stonewall Jackson riding around the mountain, followed by a legion of artillery troops. Borglum agreed to include a Ku Klux Klan altar in his plans for the memorial to acknowledge a request of Helen Plane in 1915, who wrote to him: "I feel it is due to the @#$%& that saved us from Negro domination and carpetbag rule, that it be immortalized on Stone Mountain".[37]


Borglum was a member of the Ku Klux Klan.[35] He was one of the six knights who sat on the Imperial Koncilium in 1923, which transferred leadership of the Ku Klux Klan from Imperial Wizard Colonel Simmons to Imperial Wizard Hiram Evans.[36] In 1925, having only completed the head of Robert E. Lee, Borglum was dismissed from the Stone Mountain project, with some holding that it came about due to infighting within the @#$%&, with Borglum involved in the strife.[37] Later, he stated "I am not a member of the Kloncilium, nor a knight of the @#$%&," but Howard Shaff and Audrey Karl Shaff add that "that was for public consumption."[38] The museum at Mount Rushmore displays a letter to Borglum from D.C. Stephenson, the infamous Klan Grand Dragon who later was convicted of the rape and murder of Madge Oberholtzer. The 8x10 foot portrait contains the inscription "To my good friend Gutzon Borglum, with the greatest respect." Correspondence from Borglum to Stephenson during the 1920s detailed a deep racist conviction in Nordic moral superiority and strict immigration policies

That's quite a lot of sympathy
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Re: What will Trump see at Mt Rushmore?
Posted by: Ted King
Date: July 05, 2020 03:19PM
About Stone Mountain:

[www.newsweek.com]

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About 1,000 heavily armed militia, all of whom were Black, marched through Georgia's Stone Mountain Park on Independence Day, challenging white nationalist groups in the area to either come out and fight or join them in demonstrating against the government.

Stone Mountain State Park officials said the Black militia group was peaceful, orderly and escorted by police Saturday as they called for the removal of the country's largest Confederate monument near Atlanta. Videos posted to social media show the group, the "Not F**king Around Coalition" (NFAC), meeting at the massive nine-story quartz sculpting that depicts Confederate president Jefferson Davis and Southern generals Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson.

NFAC Founder Grand Master Jay told Newsweek via phone Sunday that the militia members at Stone Mountain on Saturday were "100 percent black" and they are not affiliated with Black Lives Matter. "We are a black militia. We aren't protesters, we aren't demonstrators. We don't come to sing, we don't come to chant. That's not what we do," he said.

The NFAC head explained why several videos show the militia members alongside demonstrators earlier in the day before heading to Stone Mountain. Grand Master Jay told Newsweek the sister of Rashard Brooks, who was killed outside an Atlanta Wendy's by police last month, requested the NFAC militia provide her with a security escort to a downtown rally which began at the site of her brother's death.

"Our initial goal was to have a formation of our militia in Stone Mountain to send a message that as long as you're abolishing all these statues across the country, what about this one?" Grand Master Jay said, referencing the massive Confederate carving.

He added that he must commend Stone Mountain police for offering the all-black militia support as they exercised their constitutional rights on July 4th.

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[twitter.com]
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Re: What will Trump see at Mt Rushmore?
Posted by: rjmacs
Date: July 06, 2020 10:52AM
Unfortunately, if it comes to armed conflict between civilians, neither the demographics not the percentage of gun ownership favors minorities in the U.S. NFAC demonstrations as above have powerful and useful rhetorical value, but actual self-protection is not realistic for targeted groups.



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