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Sympathy for The Devil. Poll: About 7 in 10 white evangelicals approve of Trump
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: July 02, 2020 09:07PM
Poll: About 7 in 10 white evangelicals approve of Trump
[apnews.com]

About 7 in 10 white evangelical Protestants approve of President Donald Trump’s handling of his job, according to a new survey -- support from a cornerstone of his political base that has remained strong following a polarizing church visit and a Supreme Court ruling on LGBT discrimination that disheartened some conservatives.

Trump’s 72% approval among white evangelicals in June, released Wednesday by the nonpartisan Pew Research Center, represents a fall of six percentage points since a similar April survey.

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Beyond evangelicals’ sustained approval, the survey also found a majority of two other Christian groups continuing to register approval of the president. Trump tallied 56% approval among non-evangelical white Protestants in June and 54% approval among white Catholics.

Among Black Protestants, Trump’s approval ticked up from 10% in January to 21% in April, but fell back down to 12% in June, amid ongoing demonstrations against racial injustice following the police killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis.





Trump’s approval among Hispanic Catholics in June stood at 23%, with 74% disapproving, similar to its level in January. Religiously unaffiliated voters, a category that includes those who identify as atheist or agnostic and those who identify as “nothing in particular,” registered 24% approval of Trump in June, also similar to January.
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Re: Sympathy for The Devil. Poll: About 7 in 10 white evangelicals approve of Trump
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: July 02, 2020 10:55PM




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Re: Sympathy for The Devil. Poll: About 7 in 10 white evangelicals approve of Trump
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: July 02, 2020 11:17PM
The Second Coming!
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Re: Sympathy for The Devil. Poll: About 7 in 10 white evangelicals approve of Trump
Posted by: maco
Date: July 03, 2020 12:04AM
Trump Should Be Removed from Office
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Re: Sympathy for The Devil. Poll: About 7 in 10 white evangelicals approve of Trump
Posted by: Sam3
Date: July 03, 2020 04:45AM
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Trump Should Be Removed from Office
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The evangelicals soundly bashed and denounced them: [www.nytimes.com]



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Re: Sympathy for The Devil. Poll: About 7 in 10 white evangelicals approve of Trump
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: July 03, 2020 06:41AM
It's about policy, not personal behavior.

Being socially and politically conservative is a value for "evangelicals." Trump talks that talk and supports those policies. Biden/Democrats do not. So many (but not all) of them go with the R side because it advocates for the policies they want. Pretty simple.

If white Evangelicals were the only people in America who supported Trump then I guess that'd be strange. They're just part of the mix. Whites, rich people, men, social conservatives, Bible thumpers, Southerners, Mark Zuckerberg...that's his base.
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Re: Sympathy for The Devil. Poll: About 7 in 10 white evangelicals approve of Trump
Posted by: rjmacs
Date: July 03, 2020 10:45AM
If he'd delivered on repealing Roe by now, he'd still have all their support.



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Re: Sympathy for The Devil. Poll: About 7 in 10 white evangelicals approve of Trump
Posted by: sekker
Date: July 03, 2020 01:07PM
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rjmacs
If he'd delivered on repealing Roe by now, he'd still have all their support.

Sort of true. If Roe V Wade WAS repealed, what single topic would the right use to rally behind?!
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Re: Sympathy for The Devil. Poll: About 7 in 10 white evangelicals approve of Trump
Posted by: Speedy
Date: July 03, 2020 04:56PM
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rjmacs
If he'd delivered on repealing Roe by now, he'd still have all their support.

Sort of true. If Roe V Wade WAS repealed, what single topic would the right use to rally behind?!

Quite true. This is the Republicans main appeal to the religious bigots. Every Congress one house or the other passes something on abortion to appease the evangelical fundamentalists and then they let the legislation die because Republicans love the issue at election time. If legislation was ever passed into law and the SCOTUS blessed it, over time the Republicans would lose this as an issue and would slowly begin to lose support from the religious right.



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Re: Sympathy for The Devil. Poll: About 7 in 10 white evangelicals approve of Trump
Posted by: RgrF
Date: July 03, 2020 05:44PM
They'd just invent a new issue. Back in the 70s this wasn't an issue for either party if it was an issue at all it was among Catholics and a few other groups and even there it was back burner.

That was when GOP strategists invented the abortion political gambit, it took a Reagan and but a few election cycles for it take hold and by the time it did they realized they had mined electoral gold, so they kept fanning the flames while sending their wives and daughters to other states for medical treatment.
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Re: Sympathy for The Devil. Poll: About 7 in 10 white evangelicals approve of Trump
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: July 03, 2020 08:38PM
what Rgr wrote. they are milking that issue, and they even know 45 is a heathen, but they are getting something from him. hence his pivot during parts of the 2016 campaign from not caring to denouncing abortion. there are still enough unenrolled that will go along with the R party line on abortion, so it does draw from more than just evangelicals, although I think it's not half the issue it was 20 years ago.
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Re: Sympathy for The Devil. Poll: About 7 in 10 white evangelicals approve of Trump
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: July 04, 2020 07:09AM
We're not political strategists on here but it's a big mistake to think evangelicals only care about outlawing abortion. You could eliminate that issue altogether and you'd still have a powerful political coalition.

At the risk of stereotyping and acknowledging that no group is a monolith of belief...their social/policy values include (but are not limited to):
Support for Israel
How Christians are portrayed in popular culture
Heterosexual marriage as the only acceptable form of partnering and parenting
Continued ability of religious organizations and businesses to discriminate based on their institutional or personal beliefs
Christian influence over laws and culture in general

Good to note that Evangelicals (America's largest religious group) also favor:
Taking care of the poor
Taking care of the environment
Healing racism
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Re: Sympathy for The Devil. Poll: About 7 in 10 white evangelicals approve of Trump
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: July 04, 2020 08:52PM
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Lemon Drop

At the risk of stereotyping and acknowledging that no group is a monolith of belief...their social/policy values include (but are not limited to):
Support for Israel

Um, most of the Congress and people in the U.S. shown "Support for Israel" for over 70 years.
So let's not get carried away on this one, okay?
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Re: Sympathy for The Devil. Poll: About 7 in 10 white evangelicals approve of Trump
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: July 05, 2020 01:10PM
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Steve G.
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Lemon Drop

At the risk of stereotyping and acknowledging that no group is a monolith of belief...their social/policy values include (but are not limited to):
Support for Israel

Um, most of the Congress and people in the U.S. shown "Support for Israel" for over 70 years.
So let's not get carried away on this one, okay?

Not according to polls. And this is a very partisan issue with Republicans showing support for the Israeli government and Democrats not supporting it. Evangelicals are in that break-out Republican group that shows support for the Israeli gov't.

This should not be confused with support for the people of Israel, which remains high in both parties.

[www.pewresearch.org]
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Re: Sympathy for The Devil. Poll: About 7 in 10 white evangelicals approve of Trump
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: July 05, 2020 05:03PM
1) your survey is from April 2019.
2) It shows considerable support for the country of Israel.
3) Backing the policies of the Netanyahu government is a separate thing.
For instance, I think the annexation plan is idiotic. but that doesn't mean I don't fully support the country and people of Israel.
4)Congressional support remains high for Israel, with dissenters on annexation.

You are kidding yourself. (You might write a note to the corrupt, fanatic-ridden and illegitimate Palestine 'government' and ask them why they haven't tried to negotiate anything since 1999. That might help a whole lot.)
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Re: Sympathy for The Devil. Poll: About 7 in 10 white evangelicals approve of Trump
Posted by: Sam3
Date: July 06, 2020 04:43AM
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Lemon Drop
We're not political strategists on here but it's a big mistake to think evangelicals only care about outlawing abortion. You could eliminate that issue altogether and you'd still have a powerful political coalition.

At the risk of stereotyping and acknowledging that no group is a monolith of belief...their social/policy values include (but are not limited to):
Support for Israel
How Christians are portrayed in popular culture
Heterosexual marriage as the only acceptable form of partnering and parenting
Continued ability of religious organizations and businesses to discriminate based on their institutional or personal beliefs
Christian influence over laws and culture in general

Good to note that Evangelicals (America's largest religious group) also favor:
Taking care of the poor
Taking care of the environment
Healing racism

I don't buy the last one, "healing racism". If that was true, then we'd have no Daughter's of the Confederacy or K-K-K. Southern evangelicals are quite racist. We also wouldn't have had battles preventing inter-racial marriages back in the 60's.

I'm also not so sure about the taking care of the poor or the environment. I think you are referring the historical evangelicals, which don't exist anymore, much like classic Republicans don't exist any more.

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Guardian
Pew points out that “fewer white mainline Protestants (41%) view climate change as primarily due to human activity … white evangelical Protestants are least likely to hold this view.”

[www.theguardian.com]



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Re: Sympathy for The Devil. Poll: About 7 in 10 white evangelicals approve of Trump
Posted by: rjmacs
Date: July 06, 2020 10:49AM
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Sam3
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Lemon Drop
Good to note that Evangelicals (America's largest religious group) also favor:
Taking care of the poor
Taking care of the environment
Healing racism

I don't buy the last one, "healing racism". If that was true, then we'd have no Daughter's of the Confederacy or K-K-K. Southern evangelicals are quite racist. We also wouldn't have had battles preventing inter-racial marriages back in the 60's.

I'm also not so sure about the taking care of the poor or the environment. I think you are referring the historical evangelicals, which don't exist anymore, much like classic Republicans don't exist any more.

Quote
Guardian
Pew points out that “fewer white mainline Protestants (41%) view climate change as primarily due to human activity … white evangelical Protestants are least likely to hold this view.”

[www.theguardian.com]

I think my takeaway is: first, the evangelicals who share my values don't really merit my attention. Great that they've got consciences, but they're not using their voices to contest - loudly - their confederates who don't share their priorities. Second, the evangelicals who are politically activated and dedicated to changing the world are the ones I need to notice, and worry about.



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