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“ Elijah McClain was injected with ketamine while handcuffed “
Posted by: btfc
Date: July 03, 2020 03:23PM
‘ As state and federal inquiries widen into the case of Elijah McClain, a young Black man who died last summer after Colorado police placed him in a chokehold, the decision by paramedics to inject him with a powerful sedative while he was handcuffed has raised questions about its use during police calls and whether such medical treatment violates a person's rights.

Fire and emergency medical services officials in the Denver suburb of Aurora have said a preliminary review found that medics' actions on the night police detained McClain, 23, were "consistent and aligned with our established protocols." But some medical and legal experts worry that ketamine — or any form of an anesthetic — raises too many unknowns and that it should not be used to subdue someone in a police action.

"Why anyone would be giving ketamine in that circumstance is beyond me," said neuroscientist Carl Hart, chair of Columbia University's psychology department. "The major problem here is we should never be ordering any medication, and no one should be taking or given it against their will." ‘

[www.nbcnews.com]



Very suprised that this is legal.
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Re: “ Elijah McClain was injected with ketamine while handcuffed “
Posted by: AllGold
Date: July 03, 2020 04:40PM
That is pretty nuts.



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Re: “ Elijah McClain was injected with ketamine while handcuffed “
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: July 03, 2020 05:07PM
.....there is no reason to give a person ketamine.....



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Re: “ Elijah McClain was injected with ketamine while handcuffed “
Posted by: Bill in NC
Date: July 03, 2020 06:28PM
Why use that instead of Haldol?



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Re: “ Elijah McClain was injected with ketamine while handcuffed “
Posted by: p8712
Date: July 03, 2020 08:34PM
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NewtonMP2100
.....there is no reason to give a person ketamine.....

Adults, anyway. It is still commonly used in children. It should never have been used in this situation, of course.
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Re: “ Elijah McClain was injected with ketamine while handcuffed “
Posted by: AllGold
Date: July 03, 2020 08:55PM
Ketamine is also a horse tranquilizer.

I have a doctor friend who is part of a group who advocates for human use and it works well for specific uses.

But you shouldn't have EMTs shooting people up with it.



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Re: “ Elijah McClain was injected with ketamine while handcuffed “
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: July 04, 2020 09:53AM
Then this happened:
[www.cbsnews.com]

3 Aurora CO officers fired after they posted a selfie of themselves laughing while they "re-enacted" the chokehold near the memorial for McClain.

There is so much weeding to do in the police garden. It's overwhelming.
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Re: “ Elijah McClain was injected with ketamine while handcuffed “
Posted by: rjmacs
Date: July 04, 2020 10:40AM
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Lemon Drop
Then this happened:
[www.cbsnews.com]

3 Aurora CO officers fired after they posted a selfie of themselves laughing while they "re-enacted" the chokehold near the memorial for McClain.

There is so much weeding to do in the police garden. It's overwhelming.

Kinda makes you want to plow the whole thing under and start over, doesn't it?



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Re: “ Elijah McClain was injected with ketamine while handcuffed “
Posted by: pdq
Date: July 04, 2020 11:38AM
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Lemon Drop
Then this happened:
[www.cbsnews.com]

3 Aurora CO officers fired after they posted a selfie of themselves laughing while they "re-enacted" the chokehold near the memorial for McClain.

There is so much weeding to do in the police garden. It's overwhelming.

It’s just @#$%& astounding, isn’t it? Oh, they were just fooling around, to try to cheer up a friend.

I saw one story that compared this (aptly, I think) to folks that would have pictures of themselves taken with a lynching scene in the background, and then use prints as postcards to send to friends.

Regardless of the motivation, if a policeman is as biased (or just plain insensitive or clueless) as that, they need to find a new occupation.
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Re: “ Elijah McClain was injected with ketamine while handcuffed “
Posted by: RgrF
Date: July 04, 2020 03:44PM
+ 70: the number of people who have died in police custody after saying “I can’t breathe,” most of whom were stopped for minor infractions or on mental health checks.
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