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'Iraq's civil war has cost $3,000 per U.S. family — so far'
Posted by: Refurbvirgin
Date: February 05, 2006 02:34AM
"... those billions could have provided health care for 46 million Americans without health insurance, the hiring of 3.5 million elementary school teachers, or the construction of 2 million units of affordable housing."
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And Wolfowitz told us the war would pay for itself. With financial acumen like that it's no wonder Bush made him President of the World Bank.
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Re: 'Iraq's civil war has cost $3,000 per U.S. family — so far'
Posted by: Refurbvirgin
Date: February 05, 2006 09:31AM
Cost of this war so far... and what that money could have done constructively.
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So far Bush has mortgaged your children's future to the tune of $240 billion, and he wants another $120 billion this year. Forecasts are now that the total bill will run to two TRILLION dollars. Meanwhile the Pentagon can't account for billions of dollars in this war (a trillion dollars overall in worldwide U.S. military spending is unaccounted for). Those who applaud this war and Bush are suckers or stockholders in the military industries profiting from it.
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Re: 'Iraq's civil war has cost $3,000 per U.S. family — so far'
Posted by: bradsdad
Date: February 09, 2006 08:09PM
Before the Iraqis were freed from their oppression, it cost their families a family member's or two's life each month. Think about it.

I suppose you supported our watching the Rwanda debacle while people were slaughtered. Or the current slaughter in the Sudan. You don't realize how great you have it here in America.



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Re: 'Iraq's civil war has cost $3,000 per U.S. family — so far'
Posted by: Refurbvirgin
Date: February 09, 2006 11:54PM
We've killed far more Iraqis than Saddam has. Our own Sec'y of State, Mad' Albright, said killing a half million Iraqi kids was worth it, because it showed sanctions were working. If we hadn't installed Saddam we wouldn't have had to remove him. The Shiites were on their way to doing the job in '91, after GHWB told them to rise up against Saddam, but Bush, Sr. abandoned them an stood back, letting Saddam slaughter them in revenge for their having killed his tribespeople. We didn't want a Shiite theocracy aligned with Iran. Well guess what the son hath wrought.

As bad as things were under Saddam they're far worse off now.

No, I didn't support standing by and watching the slaughter in Rwanda, or in the Sudan. We supported Saddam even after we knew he was using poison gas on the Iranians. As Henry Kissinger said, "I hope they kill each other."


Just because our country is good doesn't mean it can't be better, and just because our neighbor kills their children doesn't excuse beating ours.
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Re: 'Iraq's civil war has cost $3,000 per U.S. family — so far'
Posted by: bradsdad
Date: February 10, 2006 10:15PM
You need to pick your issue, Mr. RV. Either the sanctions under Clinton, or the current war on terror in Iraq and AF. You smear President Bush with Clinton's ink, and that is not fair. But you don;t seem interested in fairness.

What is your group's stand on Iran and their nuclear program? I want an answer now, not in hindsight after the shut hits the fan.



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Re: 'Iraq's civil war has cost $3,000 per U.S. family — so far'
Posted by: Refurbvirgin
Date: February 10, 2006 11:12PM
bradsdad Wrote:
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> You need to pick your issue, Mr. RV. Either the
> sanctions under Clinton, or the current war on
> terror in Iraq and AF.

It's all connected BD. The 12 years of sanctions under GHWB and Clinton were just to soften up and disarm Iraq so we could make it a "cakewalk." You are obviously still suffering under the "two-party" system delusion.

> What is your group's stand on Iran and their
> nuclear program?

As a signatory of the nuclear non-proliferation treaty, unlike India and Israel, whom we readily grant nuclear technology and weapon assistance, Iran has the right to develop nuclear energy. They see however that nations that didn't sign that treaty have developed massive nuclear arsenals and we are silent or complicit. Iran has U.S. bases on all sides of it, and is also facing over 200 nukes in Israel's arsenal which threaten it. The Iranians see that if you're threatened by the U.S. you BETTER have nukes or you're toast. Iraq didn't have nukes and we flattened them without a qualm. North Korea, on the other hand....

We need to establish a nuclear-weapons free zone in the mid-East, as the first step to resolving the problem, and that means guaranteeing Israel's safety in exchange for removing its nukes, too.
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Re: 'Iraq's civil war has cost $3,000 per U.S. family — so far'
Posted by: bradsdad
Date: February 10, 2006 11:30PM
i have found the "lunatic fringe"



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Re: 'Iraq's civil war has cost $3,000 per U.S. family — so far'
Posted by: Refurbvirgin
Date: February 11, 2006 12:00AM
bradsdad Wrote:
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> i have found the "lunatic fringe"

You wrote:
"What is your group's stand on Iran and their nuclear program? I want an answer now, not in hindsight after the shut hits the fan."

What is your solution? Other than offering lame insults.
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Re: 'Iraq's civil war has cost $3,000 per U.S. family — so far'
Posted by: incognegro
Date: February 13, 2006 01:12PM
if you just concentrate on the messages of hope and determination from our fearless leader Bush, and stop focusing on the self-hating anti-American leftist drivel, you will realize that God will Bless us with His love and smite the non-Christian heathen with his mighty sword of retribution.

stop bringing up real numbers and bringing facts into the picture! Blessed Christian Washington will not stand for such Godless talk!

pretty soon our Sanctified Soldiers (or SS for short) will take care of scum like you!
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