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Does the "office of President-Elect" signs logos etc bother you?
Posted by: samintx
Date: December 01, 2008 12:19PM
It bothers me. Maybe it is marketing but I think it is ticky tacky and have those this with his seal during the campaign. Isn't this something new? other president-elects haven't done this that I remember. They have been called "president-elect" but haven't had cocktail napkins printed with that on it. (just a pun reference on napkins)
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Re: Does the "office of President-Elect" signs logos etc bother you?
Posted by: MacGurl
Date: December 01, 2008 12:26PM
No.

I have a LOT more things that bother me beyond something so trivial as this.



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Re: Does the "office of President-Elect" signs logos etc bother you?
Posted by: Don Kiyoti
Date: December 01, 2008 12:34PM
Not really. He's probably trying to make sure people understand he's not President yet. Large swaths of the public seem unclear about the election process.





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Re: Does the "office of President-Elect" signs logos etc bother you?
Posted by: Dakota
Date: December 01, 2008 12:35PM
The first time I see it, and we have been at this since 1789.
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Re: Does the "office of President-Elect" signs logos etc bother you?
Posted by: dmann
Date: December 01, 2008 12:39PM
Not at all, but then again, I am a marketing person so if they weren't there, I'd think it odd.

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Re: Does the "office of President-Elect" signs logos etc bother you?
Posted by: mattkime
Date: December 01, 2008 12:41PM
Does it bother you because he IS the president elect?



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Re: Does the "office of President-Elect" signs logos etc bother you?
Posted by: lafinfil
Date: December 01, 2008 12:41PM
I believe that it helps to avoid confusion at this point.

Obama is out front making statements about policy issues, the economy, etc ... yet these will not take effect
until he is actually takes the oath of office in January.

By having this identifier it will help to eliminate confusion with the statements Bush makes about these issues.
if Bush were to get around to making any such statements. It's a just in case measure.







Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/01/2008 12:42PM by lafinfil.
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Re: Does the "office of President-Elect" signs logos etc bother you?
Posted by: NeverMind
Date: December 01, 2008 12:42PM
no the recession that the CURRENT president gave to us bothers me .
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Re: Does the "office of President-Elect" signs logos etc bother you?
Posted by: $tevie
Date: December 01, 2008 12:43PM
It doesn't bother me. People have already been making snide remarks about why he had not fixed the economy already. It is actually a good thing to remind folks that he is not the President. Yet.



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Re: Does the "office of President-Elect" signs logos etc bother you?
Posted by: Mike Sellers
Date: December 01, 2008 12:54PM
This sign bothers me more.



At least Obama's is true.
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Re: Does the "office of President-Elect" signs logos etc bother you?
Posted by: billb
Date: December 01, 2008 12:56PM
just left-wing nuthouse's affirmation of an insufferable ego



up there with getting one's name printed in the phone book
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Re: Does the "office of President-Elect" signs logos etc bother you?
Posted by: $tevie
Date: December 01, 2008 12:58PM
Man, you guys are so bitter. Let's see if Obama absolutely refuses to change course no matter what is going wrong or how much it hurts the country, like Bush has done for 8 years, and then we can talk about insufferable egos.



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Re: Does the "office of President-Elect" signs logos etc bother you?
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: December 01, 2008 12:59PM
Yes.
It's rude, and a lot like gloating.

But.....
We need to hear from the folks who are going to be in charge. Especially since they are basically acting like they are in charge now, and the media and the current President are letting them.
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Re: Does the "office of President-Elect" signs logos etc bother you?
Posted by: Rick-o
Date: December 01, 2008 01:08PM
Nah. The birth certificate thing bothers me more.eye rolling smiley

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Re: Does the "office of President-Elect" signs logos etc bother you?
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: December 01, 2008 01:23PM
I don't like the color.
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Re: Does the "office of President-Elect" signs logos etc bother you?
Posted by: Dakota
Date: December 01, 2008 01:25PM
The real question is can you make up your own seal and stand behind it and why is this the first time in nation's history we have need for it?
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Re: Does the "office of President-Elect" signs logos etc bother you?
Posted by: michaelb
Date: December 01, 2008 01:32PM
yes it bothers me and the use of a seal by him at this time seems silly to me. However, Obama's overall strategy in the election was to appear "presidential" at all times, which he did very successfully. This was necessitated in part by racism though, so there probably is/was a basis for him to take on the trappings of power in order to counteract those prejudices.
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Re: Does the "office of President-Elect" signs logos etc bother you?
Posted by: Greg the dogsitter
Date: December 01, 2008 01:32PM
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Dakota
The real question is can you make up your own seal and stand behind it and why is this the first time in nation's history we have need for it?

The first one: Yes; it's branding.

The second: I (for whatever my opinion is worth) don't see it as a need, but an opportunity. Just as some companies might be the first to perceive a benefit to doing things a certain way, Obama is the first to perceive a benefit in doing things a certain way. Using the Internet as he has, and this branding stuff, are two examples.
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Re: Does the "office of President-Elect" signs logos etc bother you?
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: December 01, 2008 01:39PM
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Dakota
The real question is can you make up your own seal and stand behind it and why is this the first time in nation's history we have need for it?

Change.
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Re: Does the "office of President-Elect" signs logos etc bother you?
Posted by: wave rider
Date: December 01, 2008 02:08PM
Say what you want, it is raising the economy already!
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Re: Does the "office of President-Elect" signs logos etc bother you?
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: December 01, 2008 02:09PM
the only part that bothers me is the "corporate-y" feeling to it all; I don't really care if he has a sign, but all of the signs appear to be more geared to a product roll-out than a person. I guess that's it, they're "impersonal" - if that is possible for a sign.
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Re: Does the "office of President-Elect" signs logos etc bother you?
Posted by: $tevie
Date: December 01, 2008 02:10PM
Yeah, he needs a warm and fuzzy sign. Maybe put some kittens all around the border.



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Re: Does the "office of President-Elect" signs logos etc bother you?
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: December 01, 2008 02:21PM
I think it should be flashing neon. Or, one of those signs you see beside the highway with wheels and interchangeable letters. That way, the change from the current administration wouldn't be so abrupt.
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Re: Does the "office of President-Elect" signs logos etc bother you?
Posted by: BigGuynRusty
Date: December 01, 2008 02:43PM
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Re: Does the "office of President-Elect" signs logos etc bother you?
Posted by: karsen
Date: December 01, 2008 03:15PM
It doesn't bother me because it's a real office, and a real title. He's free to use it.

It's not like before when he used an Obama seal that looked like the Presidential Seal in an effort to to look Presidential. He's better off without gimmicks like that imo.




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Re: Does the "office of President-Elect" signs logos etc bother you?
Posted by: $tevie
Date: December 01, 2008 03:21PM
The thing about that seal was, somewhere a graphic designer was feeling so proud of themselves for coming up with such a clever idea. My heart aches for them.
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Re: Does the "office of President-Elect" signs logos etc bother you?
Posted by: karsen
Date: December 01, 2008 03:26PM
The seal was clever. I just feel it cheapens the Office of the POTUS. It's like something you'd expect to see on SNL.



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Re: Does the "office of President-Elect" signs logos etc bother you?
Posted by: samintx
Date: December 01, 2008 03:40PM
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Don Keyoti
Not really. He's probably trying to make sure people understand he's not President yet. Large swaths of the public seem unclear about the election process.

Yes, I saw THOSE people of TV during the election voting and making inane comments which I will not quote less I get accused of trying to start a cyber riot.

I'm not losing sleep over this subject but just think is should not be done.



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Re: Does the "office of President-Elect" signs logos etc bother you?
Posted by: mattkime
Date: December 01, 2008 03:49PM
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karsen
The seal was clever. I just feel it cheapens the Office of the POTUS. It's like something you'd expect to see on SNL.

I find it fascinating that anyone thinks the office could be cheapened any further after the past eight years.



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Re: Does the "office of President-Elect" signs logos etc bother you?
Posted by: davester
Date: December 01, 2008 03:59PM
I think that if the only things the righties can criticize are trivial items like the sign and the birth certificate red herring, then they got nuthin'!

As for signs, I hate the ones that Bush almost always has in the background while out doing stump speeches. "Mission Accomplished" was the worst one, but there are plenty of others. They are pure marketing hype, and cheapen the office of the POTUS IMHO. I hope that Obama gets rid of such outright propaganda, but I fear the worst. Here's one:





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Date: December 01, 2008 04:31PM






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Re: Does the "office of President-Elect" signs logos etc bother you?
Posted by: karsen
Date: December 01, 2008 05:16PM
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mattkime
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karsen
The seal was clever. I just feel it cheapens the Office of the POTUS. It's like something you'd expect to see on SNL.

I find it fascinating that anyone thinks the office could be cheapened any further after the past eight years.

I find it fascinating that someone thinks any slam on Obama must also be an affirmation of support for Bush.



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Re: Does the "office of President-Elect" signs logos etc bother you?
Posted by: mattkime
Date: December 01, 2008 06:20PM
I'm just saying that i don't think there's a sign tacky enough to outdo such a shoddy justification for war. that all

(he had other such moments, but thats the main one)



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Re: Does the "office of President-Elect" signs logos etc bother you?
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: December 01, 2008 06:58PM
supposedly Obama believed his signs were too corporate looking in the beginning, but it had already taken hold and he was not going to micro-manage the campaign at that level. at least, that is what i read at some point this past summer.
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Re: Does the "office of President-Elect" signs logos etc bother you?
Posted by: vision63
Date: December 01, 2008 07:17PM
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davester
I think that if the only things the righties can criticize are trivial items like the sign and the birth certificate red herring, then they got nuthin'!

As for signs, I hate the ones that Bush almost always has in the background while out doing stump speeches. "Mission Accomplished" was the worst one, but there are plenty of others. They are pure marketing hype, and cheapen the office of the POTUS IMHO. I hope that Obama gets rid of such outright propaganda, but I fear the worst. Here's one:


If it isn't this it'd be something else. They'll pound and pound and pound and pound relentlessly and unceasingly just like a regiment of terminators because it's what they do. Instead of developing concepts and ideas that build our nation they've discovered that it's simply easier to tear people and organizations apart that do the work of the people and bring them down. We lend credence to it when we ignore it. They're willing to sacrifice themselves in their effort to stop anyone that might lend a hand to anyone that might not have two nickels to rub together. Newt Gingrich pounded away until he blew himself up in total sacrifice. Same with Tom Delay. They threw "themselves" under the bus for the common GOP good. You won't see Reid or Pelosi doing that.

They'll complain about what kind of toilet paper Obama uses until it becomes a GOP meme that develops a life of its own to the extent that it derails his entire administration. Obama: "I did not use, nor did I intend to use that Charmin toilet paper." If he'll lie about that, then how can we trust him about anything?

Answer my question man!
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Re: Does the "office of President-Elect" signs logos etc bother you?
Posted by: Dakota
Date: December 01, 2008 07:20PM
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mattkime
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karsen
The seal was clever. I just feel it cheapens the Office of the POTUS. It's like something you'd expect to see on SNL.

I find it fascinating that anyone thinks the office could be cheapened any further after the past eight years.

Are you able to comment on a single issue on its own merit without referring to what George Bush did or didn't do? Kids grow out of it at about age 5.
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Re: Does the "office of President-Elect" signs logos etc bother you?
Posted by: mattkime
Date: December 01, 2008 07:26PM
>>Are you able to comment on a single issue on its own merit without referring to what George Bush did or didn't do?

We're talking about the presidency and he's been president for the past eight years.

you're right, how dare i bring him up.
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Re: Does the "office of President-Elect" signs logos etc bother you?
Posted by: Dakota
Date: December 01, 2008 07:27PM
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michaelb
yes it bothers me and the use of a seal by him at this time seems silly to me. However, Obama's overall strategy in the election was to appear "presidential" at all times,

We get it, we get it. You look presidential, you dress like a president, you talk like a president, you act like a president, you are president-elect, you will be president in January.
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Re: Does the "office of President-Elect" signs logos etc bother you?
Posted by: NeverMind
Date: December 01, 2008 08:41PM
We get it, you have a plan, the actual president messed up big time and doesn't care, that's why he is no where to be found. Where is good old Dick?
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Re: Does the "office of President-Elect" signs logos etc bother you?
Posted by: Dakota
Date: December 01, 2008 09:02PM
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NeverMind
We get it, you have a plan, the actual president messed up big time and doesn't care, that's why he is no where to be found. Where is good old Dick?

What did Dick Nixon say?
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Re: Does the "office of President-Elect" signs logos etc bother you?
Posted by: Black Landlord
Date: December 01, 2008 09:35PM
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Dakota
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michaelb
yes it bothers me and the use of a seal by him at this time seems silly to me. However, Obama's overall strategy in the election was to appear "presidential" at all times,

We get it, we get it. You look presidential, you dress like a president, you talk like a president, you act like a president, you are president-elect, you will be president in January.

And come January 21st, I will take great delight in pointing out your lack of patriotism each and every time you post something critical of sitting president Barack H. Obama or any of his supporters.



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Re: Does the "office of President-Elect" signs logos etc bother you?
Posted by: Dakota
Date: December 01, 2008 11:27PM
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Black Landlord
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Dakota
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michaelb
yes it bothers me and the use of a seal by him at this time seems silly to me. However, Obama's overall strategy in the election was to appear "presidential" at all times,

We get it, we get it. You look presidential, you dress like a president, you talk like a president, you act like a president, you are president-elect, you will be president in January.

And come January 21st, I will take great delight in pointing out your lack of patriotism each and every time you post something critical of sitting president Barack H. Obama or any of his supporters.

You can be sure I won't call him a Nazi, a war criminal( no matter how many bombs he drops on Afghanistan) and won't wish him death and disease. You know, the stuff you are probably fairly comfortable using for the current president.
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Re: Does the "office of President-Elect" signs logos etc bother you?
Posted by: vision63
Date: December 01, 2008 11:30PM
George Bush is faultless.
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Re: Does the "office of President-Elect" signs logos etc bother you?
Posted by: davester
Date: December 01, 2008 11:59PM
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Dakota
You can be sure I won't call him a Nazi, a war criminal( no matter how many bombs he drops on Afghanistan) and won't wish him death and disease. You know, the stuff you are probably fairly comfortable using for the current president.

Well war criminal maybe (some fairly respectable people out there have stated as much, but the rest is bullpuckey. Find a single post that states any of those other things or @#$%&.



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Re: Does the "office of President-Elect" signs logos etc bother you?
Posted by: Black Landlord
Date: December 02, 2008 12:00AM
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Dakota
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Black Landlord
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Dakota
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michaelb
yes it bothers me and the use of a seal by him at this time seems silly to me. However, Obama's overall strategy in the election was to appear "presidential" at all times,

We get it, we get it. You look presidential, you dress like a president, you talk like a president, you act like a president, you are president-elect, you will be president in January.

And come January 21st, I will take great delight in pointing out your lack of patriotism each and every time you post something critical of sitting president Barack H. Obama or any of his supporters.

You can be sure I won't call him a Nazi, a war criminal( no matter how many bombs he drops on Afghanistan) and won't wish him death and disease. You know, the stuff you are probably fairly comfortable using for the current president.
I don't expect you to believe me, or really even care, but as a bit of a typing exercise I will state that I would never wish death and disease on GWB, or anyone else, or call him a Nazi. You would have to agree though that he has, however, come darned close to flat-out fascism, and is absolutely a war criminal.
I don't have any strong feelings about Afghanistan, but I sure hope hundreds of thousands of innocent people don't get killed like in Iraq.
Thanks for the opportunity to clarify my feelings. For the longest time I couldn't talk about Bush, but I feel strangely liberated now.



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Re: Does the "office of President-Elect" signs logos etc bother you?
Posted by: Black Landlord
Date: December 02, 2008 12:02AM
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Dakota
What did Dick Nixon say?

Is there more to this joke, or was that it?



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Re: Does the "office of President-Elect" signs logos etc bother you?
Posted by: Ted King
Date: December 02, 2008 08:26AM
I don't care for the signs. I think the cheapen his image rather than help, but he is so impressive that they almost don't matter at all. On a ten point scale, their significance is about 0.05.
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Posted by: $tevie
Date: December 02, 2008 09:19AM
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Posted by: $tevie
Date: December 02, 2008 09:21AM
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vision63
If it isn't this it'd be something else. They'll pound and pound and pound and pound relentlessly and unceasingly just like a regiment of terminators because it's what they do. Instead of developing concepts and ideas that build our nation they've discovered that it's simply easier to tear people and organizations apart that do the work of the people and bring them down. We lend credence to it when we ignore it. They're willing to sacrifice themselves in their effort to stop anyone that might lend a hand to anyone that might not have two nickels to rub together. Newt Gingrich pounded away until he blew himself up in total sacrifice. Same with Tom Delay. They threw "themselves" under the bus for the common GOP good. You won't see Reid or Pelosi doing that.

They'll complain about what kind of toilet paper Obama uses until it becomes a GOP meme that develops a life of its own to the extent that it derails his entire administration. Obama: "I did not use, nor did I intend to use that Charmin toilet paper." If he'll lie about that, then how can we trust him about anything?

Answer my question man!

This is all too true.



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Re: Does the "office of President-Elect" signs logos etc bother you?
Posted by: Dakota
Date: December 02, 2008 01:35PM
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Black Landlord
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michaelb
yes it bothers me and the use of a seal by him at this time seems silly to me. However, Obama's overall strategy in the election was to appear "presidential" at all times,

We get it, we get it. You look presidential, you dress like a president, you talk like a president, you act like a president, you are president-elect, you will be president in January.

And come January 21st, I will take great delight in pointing out your lack of patriotism each and every time you post something critical of sitting president Barack H. Obama or any of his supporters.

You can be sure I won't call him a Nazi, a war criminal( no matter how many bombs he drops on Afghanistan) and won't wish him death and disease. You know, the stuff you are probably fairly comfortable using for the current president.
I don't expect you to believe me, or really even care, but as a bit of a typing exercise I will state that I would never wish death and disease on GWB, or anyone else, or call him a Nazi. You would have to agree though that he has, however, come darned close to flat-out fascism, and is absolutely a war criminal.
I don't have any strong feelings about Afghanistan, but I sure hope hundreds of thousands of innocent people don't get killed like in Iraq.
Thanks for the opportunity to clarify my feelings. For the longest time I couldn't talk about Bush, but I feel strangely liberated now.

In denying my assertions you confirmed all of them. BTW, it is very generous of you to stop at war criminal and not to call the elected President of the United States not a Nazi.
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