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Just realized Jan. 19, 2009 is...
Posted by: Go To Top
Date: December 02, 2008 02:25PM
MLK Day. National holiday.

How appropriate.



A man who is of "sound mind" is one who keeps the inner madman under lock and key.
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Re: Just realized Jan. 19, 2009 is...
Posted by: billb
Date: December 02, 2008 02:40PM
Last Jan. it was the 21st.
I wish my birthday was always on a Monday.

I suppose it could be.
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Re: Just realized Jan. 19, 2009 is...
Posted by: Go To Top
Date: December 02, 2008 02:49PM
Jan. 20 is Inauguration.



A man who is of "sound mind" is one who keeps the inner madman under lock and key.
(Paul Valery)
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Re: Just realized Jan. 19, 2009 is...
Posted by: Racer X
Date: December 02, 2008 09:17PM
How is it appropriate? The president is half caucasian?
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Re: Just realized Jan. 19, 2009 is...
Posted by: vision63
Date: December 02, 2008 10:48PM
Half caucasians don't celebrate Martin Luther King? What does black mean to you? Black isn't a race, it's a people. African is a race. Caucasian is a race. Black is a people of a shared experience. Obama calls himself black. What's the problem with wanting to be black. Not a single black (note the lower case b) person is of pure blood, so then no one is black or it is silly to identify themselves as black?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/02/2008 10:52PM by vision63.
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Re: Just realized Jan. 19, 2009 is...
Posted by: Black Landlord
Date: December 03, 2008 01:12AM
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vision63
Half caucasians don't celebrate Martin Luther King? What does black mean to you? Black isn't a race, it's a people. African is a race. Caucasian is a race. Black is a people of a shared experience. Obama calls himself black. What's the problem with wanting to be black. Not a single black (note the lower case b) person is of pure blood, so then no one is black or it is silly to identify themselves as black?
I'm hoping RacerX already understood that and was just being coy (?)



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Re: Just realized Jan. 19, 2009 is...
Posted by: Racer X
Date: December 03, 2008 01:21AM
yeah, I most certainly do. I just don't think any particular group, race, gender or sexual orientation should lay "claim" to him, or expect that he will somehow identify with them more closely than any other groups. an 87.5% German Shepard isn't a German Shepard really. Ask the AKC.

My adopted father was 1/32 Cherokee, but he sure as heck wasn't native american.

Now, is it fitting that innaguration day is MLK day that year, and he has been a champion for human rights since the earliest days of his political career, and even before? If that's the case, yes.

I do know that he and his "advisors" have been vocally and his advisors sometimes violently, trying to erode and take away rights guaranteed by the constitution for the perceived greater good.
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Re: Just realized Jan. 19, 2009 is...
Posted by: Black Landlord
Date: December 03, 2008 01:58AM
Oh, well.
Obama chooses to self-identify as a black man. The overwhelming majority of black folks identify Obama as a black man. Most everyone Obama comes in contact with identify him as a black man.
He's actually articulated this much better that I could (I should be looking for my bed rather than looking for links right now) but attempting to define his ethnicity and culture by comparing him to a less than pedigreed dog is just . . . not right.



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Re: Just realized Jan. 19, 2009 is...
Posted by: samintx
Date: December 03, 2008 06:28AM
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vision63
Half caucasians don't celebrate Martin Luther King? What does black mean to you? Black isn't a race, it's a people. African is a race. Caucasian is a race. Black is a people of a shared experience. Obama calls himself black. What's the problem with wanting to be black. Not a single black (note the lower case b) person is of pure blood, so then no one is black or it is silly to identify themselves as black?


I thought the black leaders said of BHO he "wasn't black enuf" early in his run. Didn't have the "slave" background in his anchestry so was somehow not qualified with the "blacks" who had.
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Re: Just realized Jan. 19, 2009 is...
Posted by: billb
Date: December 03, 2008 07:31AM
Obama has called himself a mutt way too many times.
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Re: Just realized Jan. 19, 2009 is...
Posted by: NeverMind
Date: December 03, 2008 07:42AM
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samintx

I thought the black leaders said of BHO he "wasn't black enuf" early in his run. Didn't have the "slave" background in his anchestry so was somehow not qualified with the "blacks" who had.

Why don't you call him what you really want to, "the muslim". Don't hold back.
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Re: Just realized Jan. 19, 2009 is...
Posted by: mikeylikesit
Date: December 03, 2008 08:52AM
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samintx
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vision63
Half caucasians don't celebrate Martin Luther King? What does black mean to you? Black isn't a race, it's a people. African is a race. Caucasian is a race. Black is a people of a shared experience. Obama calls himself black. What's the problem with wanting to be black. Not a single black (note the lower case b) person is of pure blood, so then no one is black or it is silly to identify themselves as black?


I thought the black leaders said of BHO he "wasn't black enuf" early in his run. Didn't have the "slave" background in his anchestry so was somehow not qualified with the "blacks" who had.

Like it or not, he's going to be your President. These sort of statements make you appear like someone you aren't.

Let it go and go after him on issues that bother you.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/03/2008 08:53AM by mikeylikesit.
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Re: Just realized Jan. 19, 2009 is...
Posted by: BigGuynRusty
Date: December 03, 2008 09:07AM
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samintx
I thought the black leaders said of BHO he "wasn't black enuf" early in his run. Didn't have the "slave" background in his anchestry so was somehow not qualified with the "blacks" who had.
But yet White Racist have always asserted that "Just One Drop of Black Blood makes you Black!!"
Those Folk don't use the word "Black", they have other vicious words that they use, especially amongst their friends, don't they InTX?

BGnR



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"If we dig precious things from the land, we will invite disaster."
"Near the day of Purification, there will be cobwebs spun back and forth in the sky."
"A container of ashes might one day be thrown from the sky, which could burn the land and boil the oceans."
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Re: Just realized Jan. 19, 2009 is...
Posted by: swampy
Date: December 03, 2008 09:58AM
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vision63
Half caucasians don't celebrate Martin Luther King? What does black mean to you? Black isn't a race, it's a people. African is a race. Caucasian is a race. Black is a people of a shared experience. Obama calls himself black. What's the problem with wanting to be black. Not a single black (note the lower case b) person is of pure blood, so then no one is black or it is silly to identify themselves as black?

African is NOT a race
[www.casa.umass.edu]

Shared Experience? What is that supposed to mean? That certainly is not a definition of "race".

Race Descriptions:
Black or African American A person having origins in any of the black racial groups of Africa.

Asian A person having origins in any of the original peoples of the Far East, Southeast Asia, or the Indian subcontinent including, for example, Cambodia, China, India, Japan, Korea, Malaysia, Pakistan, the Philippine Islands, Thailand, and Vietnam.

White A person having origins in any of the original peoples of Europe, the Middle East, or North Africa.

American Indian or Alaska Native A person having origins in any of the original peoples of North and South America (including Central America), and who maintains tribal affiliation or community attachment.

Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander A person having origins in any of the original peoples of Hawaii, Guam, Samoa, or other Pacific Islands.




If you don't stand for something, you'll probably fall for anything.t
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Re: Just realized Jan. 19, 2009 is...
Posted by: vision63
Date: December 03, 2008 10:05AM
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Racer X
yeah, I most certainly do. I just don't think any particular group, race, gender or sexual orientation should lay "claim" to him, or expect that he will somehow identify with them more closely than any other groups. an 87.5% German Shepard isn't a German Shepard really. Ask the AKC.

My adopted father was 1/32 Cherokee, but he sure as heck wasn't native american.

Now, is it fitting that innaguration day is MLK day that year, and he has been a champion for human rights since the earliest days of his political career, and even before? If that's the case, yes.

I do know that he and his "advisors" have been vocally and his advisors sometimes violently, trying to erode and take away rights guaranteed by the constitution for the perceived greater good.

I think black people "are" laying claim to him. Obama prepared for this however. If you check out some of his appearances vis a vis the African American community, you will notice that one of his mantras is to minimize and reduce their expectations regarding what "he" can deliver as a sitting president specifically. I don't really think they "hear" that right now however. Consequently, I think it's possible for him to lose them somewhat over time. I remember when Tom Bradley first won for mayor of Los Angeles. The initial expectations of black people were diminished as they discovered that he didn't have nearly enough power to dramatically change the South Central economic landscapes overnight, and to deal with the fact that he was the mayor for "all" of Los Angeles.
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Re: Just realized Jan. 19, 2009 is...
Posted by: mikeylikesit
Date: December 03, 2008 11:26AM
He's a person of color.

Sorry if that bothers you.
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Re: Just realized Jan. 19, 2009 is...
Posted by: billb
Date: December 03, 2008 01:23PM
Everyone is a person of color, unless they have a hypopigmentary congenital disorder.
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Re: Just realized Jan. 19, 2009 is...
Posted by: Racer X
Date: December 03, 2008 08:47PM
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Black Landlord
Oh, well.
Obama chooses to self-identify as a black man. The overwhelming majority of black folks identify Obama as a black man. Most everyone Obama comes in contact with identify him as a black man.
He's actually articulated this much better that I could (I should be looking for my bed rather than looking for links right now) but attempting to define his ethnicity and culture by comparing him to a less than pedigreed dog is just . . . not right.

I mean him no disrespect. Mulatto is a correct description. The word bastard probably describes me. If it is correct, why get upset? I'm neither proud or ashamed of it. Its just an accurate descriptive word.
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Re: Just realized Jan. 19, 2009 is...
Posted by: mikeylikesit
Date: December 04, 2008 04:26AM
Whether you see it that way or not both terms are pejorative and indicate an inability to communicate or a desire to confront. How words are used is often more important than their actual definition.
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Re: Just realized Jan. 19, 2009 is...
Posted by: vision63
Date: December 04, 2008 11:19AM
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swampy
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vision63
Half caucasians don't celebrate Martin Luther King? What does black mean to you? Black isn't a race, it's a people. African is a race. Caucasian is a race. Black is a people of a shared experience. Obama calls himself black. What's the problem with wanting to be black. Not a single black (note the lower case b) person is of pure blood, so then no one is black or it is silly to identify themselves as black?

African is NOT a race
[www.casa.umass.edu]

Shared Experience? What is that supposed to mean? That certainly is not a definition of "race".

Race Descriptions:
Black or African American A person having origins in any of the black racial groups of Africa.

Asian A person having origins in any of the original peoples of the Far East, Southeast Asia, or the Indian subcontinent including, for example, Cambodia, China, India, Japan, Korea, Malaysia, Pakistan, the Philippine Islands, Thailand, and Vietnam.

White A person having origins in any of the original peoples of Europe, the Middle East, or North Africa.

American Indian or Alaska Native A person having origins in any of the original peoples of North and South America (including Central America), and who maintains tribal affiliation or community attachment.

Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander A person having origins in any of the original peoples of Hawaii, Guam, Samoa, or other Pacific Islands.

Take it easy.... Put the Google down. That's it... Just.... lay it right there in front of you.... where I can see it. Everything's gonna be fine... Don't be afraid...
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