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more proof texas is stoopid
Posted by: mattkime
Date: April 10, 2009 12:21PM
Texas lawmaker: Asians should change their names to make them ‘easier for Americans to deal with.’

[thinkprogress.org]





VTPKL it!
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Re: more proof texas is stoopid
Posted by: Doc
Date: April 10, 2009 12:26PM
From a page that's not a blog:
[www.chron.com]

Substantively the same.
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Re: more proof texas is stoopid
Posted by: Seacrest
Date: April 10, 2009 12:44PM
Again.
Much ado about nothing.

Although I fail to see what her difficulty would be with "Asian" names (Ko was the name of the "Asian" in the story.), as opposed to, say, Eastern European or African ones.
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Re: more proof texas is stoopid
Posted by: laarree
Date: April 10, 2009 12:48PM
I'd like to hear Betty Brown try to pronounce my Germanic
surname, or the surnames of some of the very white and
usually blonde Polish immigrants in my neighborhood.

She's daft, and has surely been lived in a diversity-free bubble.




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Re: more proof texas is stoopid
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: April 10, 2009 01:26PM
Oh great! Now we have to send Obama to Asialand to apologize!
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Re: more proof texas is stoopid
Posted by: Pops
Date: April 10, 2009 01:36PM
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laarree
... lived in a diversity-free bubble.

That's good. I may borrow it, but I'll give credit. smiling smiley
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Re: more proof texas is stoopid
Posted by: samintx
Date: April 10, 2009 01:59PM
What about BHO saying he didn't know how to say a word in AUSTRIA? is that smart?????
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Re: more proof texas is stoopid
Posted by: laarree
Date: April 10, 2009 02:02PM
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Seacrest
... (Ko was the name of the "Asian" in the story.), as opposed to, say, Eastern European or African ones.

Yeah, why can't he change his name to something more English-y,
like OK?




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Re: more proof texas is stoopid
Posted by: BigGuynRusty
Date: April 10, 2009 02:03PM
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samintx
What about BHO saying he didn't know how to say a word in AUSTRIA? is that smart?????
Proving the Subject Line!!
Thank You SamInTX!!

BGnR



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Re: more proof texas is stoopid
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: April 10, 2009 02:06PM
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samintx
What about BHO saying he didn't know how to say a word in AUSTRIA? is that smart?????

Ich verstehe nicht. Können Sie das auf Englich schreiben?

Jadanktschuß
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Re: more proof texas is stoopid
Posted by: $tevie
Date: April 10, 2009 02:42PM
Her name is Betty Brown, for crying out loud. How much blander can a name get?

Maybe she is a reincarnation of an Ellis Island clerk.
bunny smiley



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Re: more proof texas is stoopid
Posted by: laarree
Date: April 10, 2009 03:45PM
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$tevie
Maybe she is a reincarnation of an Ellis Island clerk.
bunny smiley

A keen insight, $tevie! hail smiley




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Re: more proof texas is stoopid
Posted by: kj
Date: April 10, 2009 05:36PM
She's being a bit of an idiot about it, but there is a problem there. Most Chinese people I know have a "american" type name like Sally, Linda, Rose, because it's often dang hard to remember their names. We have lots of friends from Burma, and they love their names (they mean a lot more to them than names do to most americans). Some choose an american name, but most don't, and it's more difficult for them. But because of how much their names mean to them, I would never dream of telling them they should change them. At the same time, I understand someone saying it would be easier for everyone if they did. In defense of them keeping their names, I will say that it just takes a little longer to learn their names, so it really doesn't turn out to be a huge deal, unless it's unpronounceable (some are for me, as my mouth will not make the sounds). It's not as simple as "Texans are stupid" though. That particular one is pragmatic, but insensitive. kj.
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Re: more proof texas is stoopid
Posted by: Pops
Date: April 10, 2009 06:08PM
Quote

"more proof texas is stoopid"

In the end, there is no more to add to the thread title.
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Re: more proof texas is stoopid
Posted by: Black
Date: April 10, 2009 06:31PM
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Lux Interior
Quote
samintx
What about BHO saying he didn't know how to say a word in AUSTRIA? is that smart?????

Ich verstehe nicht. Können Sie das auf Englich schreiben?

Jadanktschuß

Passiert nicht.




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Re: more proof texas is stoopid
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: April 11, 2009 03:04AM
Es wird nicht passieren. Stimmt.
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Re: more proof texas is stoopid
Posted by: RgrF
Date: April 11, 2009 06:52AM
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BigGuynRusty
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samintx
What about BHO saying he didn't know how to say a word in AUSTRIA? is that smart?????
Proving the Subject Line!!
Thank You SamInTX!!

BGnR

Let it be noted I at least one time agreed with Rusty.



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Re: more proof texas is stoopid
Posted by: Black
Date: April 11, 2009 08:09AM
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Lux Interior
Es wird nicht passieren. Stimmt.

Doch doch . . .




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Re: more proof texas is stoopid
Posted by: laarree
Date: April 11, 2009 10:06AM
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Black
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Lux Interior
Es wird nicht passieren. Stimmt.

Doch doch . . .

Umm... Ich bin ein Berliner?




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Re: more proof texas is stoopid
Posted by: samintx
Date: April 11, 2009 10:48AM
I heard her actual voice and it was not as onerous as in print....altho may have been tactless. It was said at 1:00 a.m. when they had been up for hours.

Why don't you talk about Bidens statements that never happened with Bush....downright fabrication.
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Re: more proof texas is stoopid
Posted by: RgrF
Date: April 11, 2009 10:51AM
If Sam thinks a degree of onerous, it must have been a doozy.



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Re: more proof texas is stoopid
Posted by: Don Kiyoti
Date: April 11, 2009 02:48PM
Here's the entire exchange between Betty Brown and Ramey Ko:
[www.youtube.com]

She seems a bit provincial and maybe slightly lacking in tact but that's about the worst of it. She doesn't set off any racism alarm bells for me.





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Re: more proof texas is stoopid
Posted by: laarree
Date: April 11, 2009 06:06PM
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Don Kiyoti
Here's the entire exchange between Betty Brown and Ramey Ko:
[www.youtube.com]

She seems a bit provincial and maybe slightly lacking in tact but that's about the worst of it. She doesn't set off any racism alarm bells for me.

That was an interesting exchange. She doesn't set off my racism alarm bells either. The issue of names on ID and voting also extends to citizens who are not Asian in background, such as myself. I faced this while going to vote this past November, when, despite having lived at the same address for a long time and having voted in many many elections, I was for the first time not listed as a registered voter in my district. I was told that this was a common problem, and that many other people had been purged from lists of registered voters because of minor differences in spelling. I had to fill out a paper ballot and sign an affidavit. My guess is that I had a problem because the name on my birth certificate and SS card is Laurence, and the name on nearly all my other IDs is Larry. This was never a problem at all before I needed to get a passport a couple of years ago. I guess in these security-obsessed times, these discrepancies are now unacceptable.




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Re: more proof texas is stoopid
Posted by: $tevie
Date: April 11, 2009 07:21PM
That was an interesting exchange -- setting aside the Betty Brown issue for a moment, I got an education in the pitfalls of a badly written voter ID bill.

As for Betty Brown, I still think it was an odd idea, even if it wasn't a racist one.



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Re: more proof texas is stoopid
Posted by: Don Kiyoti
Date: April 11, 2009 07:38PM
As for Betty Brown, I still think it was an odd idea, even if it wasn't a racist one.


It would be good for some members of this forum *COUGH* samintx *COUGH* Dakota *COUGH* swampy to notice from this that not all bad ideas are adopted as policy or made into law, nor are they always proposed with hostile intent towards on constituency or another.





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Re: more proof texas is stoopid
Posted by: RgrF
Date: April 12, 2009 04:52AM
It was a committee tasked to find ways to avoid disenfranchising voters, I don't think in that context any proposal or suggestion is outlandish.

The real problem is the idea that voter fraud is so widespread (apparently primarily in GOP states) that restrictive laws need to be passed and voters need now to jump hurdles that were never before necessary.

Some would look at it as legal attempts at vote suppression. I wouldn't disagree with that assessment.



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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/12/2009 04:53AM by RgrF.
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