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Will China be China in 2045?
Posted by: SteveJobs
Date: April 19, 2006 07:13AM
[news.independent.co.uk]

that's the date they say China will overtake the US of A as a superpower. But a lot can happen in 40 or so years. Will China's current boundaries fall, akin to the Soyuz Sovetskikh Sotsialisticheskikh Respublik?

And again, perhaps the left coasts and juicy center of US of A will not make it to 2045 as a whole entity, either. The SW might just become Mexico/a.



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Re: Will China be China in 2045?
Posted by: JoeM
Date: April 19, 2006 08:57AM
SteveJobs Wrote:
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> And again, perhaps the left coasts and juicy
> center of US of A will not make it to 2045 as a
> whole entity, either....

Cool! maybe I'll be owning valuable beach-front property by then.






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Re: Will China be China in 2045?
Posted by: SteveJobs
Date: April 19, 2006 09:45AM
we can all hold out hope!



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Re: Will China be China in 2045?
Posted by: cassie
Date: April 19, 2006 11:54AM
The worrisome part of this possibility is that China is Communist China. And Communist China still has it's world wide goal to have Communism dominate.

For some time in my studies, I have had a growing question. Would Nixon have gone to China if he knew what we know now? His idea was to open China to capitalism, hoping to get the Chinese to see a better way, yada, yada. Instead, the Communists have learned to use capitalism to build up their society (Good) and further their diabolical ends (Bad).

Today I cringe at the thought of buying anything made in China.

I know that much of what the free world spends on Chinese goods is going to build up Communist China's military; particularly, submarine and nuclear missile forces.

So, every time we go to Wallyworld and the like, we are probably going to purchase something that will help the Chinese take us over.

Personally, I hope that the Communist cadre, and their ilk, will die out and the Chinese people will choose to have a free and open democratic society.

My hope is that we wise up! We must improve education for all Americans. We must demand it from ourselves and our children if we are to survive. There is no reason we can't continue to be the light for innovation and development and lead the world.


Try these on for size:

[english.people.com.cn]
The China Ocean Shipping Company (Cosco)

"...The Cosco shipping company, which has 600 ships of assorted types, is the bigger user of the Panama Canal among the shipping companies...

"The Chinese conglomerate, whose operations cover almost all the world, has six branches in Latin America: Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, Peru, Chile and Panama, where it started to extend its commercial ties since the decade of the seventies of the 20th century...

[educate-yourself.org]

"...100% owned by the PLA-the People's Liberation Army of Red China [the Red Chinese Army] . COSCO has other facilities up and down both the West and East coasts of the U.S. and the Gulf Coast along with the newest port facility that they have at Freeport,The Bahamas,which is the largest container port in the World."


[www.dailyrepublican.com]
"Between 1995-1996, during the heat of the Clinton-Gore Campaign fund raising activity, the Clinton administration actively intervened to make sure a Communist Chinese cargo container shipping interest got a too-good deal on a Long Beach, California, shipping terminal..."

"The Chinese deal apparently went forward without a national security review by wither the CIA or National Security Council. The White House apparently avoided normal and routine government channels in pushing the deal through in 1995. '... there seemed to be no reason to check with the National Security Council on the decision ...' White House spokesman Lanny Davis said."


[republican.sen.ca.gov]

"...COSCO Chinese government-run company currently operates two giant terminals at the huge Port of Long Beach. Ten years ago one of their ships was found to have smuggled a huge cache of illegal weapons into the port - with the smugglers saying they planned to import missiles that could "take out a 747 airliner."

"...On the night of March 18, 1996, undercover U.S. Customs and Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms agents discovered 2000 AK-47 assault rifles hidden in a container smuggled aboard the Empress Phoenix, a ship owned by the China Ocean Shipping Company [COSCO] docked at the Port of Oakland..."


[www.latinamericanstudies.org]
FREEPORT, Bahamas — Hutchison Whampoa Ltd., the Hong Kong-based shipping giant with ties to Beijing that has alarmed conservatives with its ports at both ends of the Panama Canal, is now fully operational with a $2.6 billion facility in the Bahamas.

[www.washingtonpost.com]
Democrat Bernard Schwartz, head of Loral Space and Communications, was a major donor to President Clinton's second presidential campaign.

Clinton gave approval for Loral to work with the Chinese. This ultimately led to the Chinese obtaining technology for missiles that can hit any city in the United States.

[news.ft.com]
Top Chinese general warns US over attack

Do a google for, "chinese influence in south america"












Try these on for size:

[english.people.com.cn]
The China Ocean Shipping Company (Cosco)

"...The Cosco shipping company, which has 600 ships of assorted types, is the bigger user of the Panama Canal among the shipping companies...

"The Chinese conglomerate, whose operations cover almost all the world, has six branches in Latin America: Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, Peru, Chile and Panama, where it started to extend its commercial ties since the decade of the seventies of the 20th century...

[educate-yourself.org]

"...100% owned by the PLA-the People's Liberation Army of Red China [the Red Chinese Army] . COSCO has other facilities up and down both the West and East coasts of the U.S. and the Gulf Coast along with the newest port facility that they have at Freeport,The Bahamas,which is the largest container port in the World."


[www.dailyrepublican.com]
"Between 1995-1996, during the heat of the Clinton-Gore Campaign fund raising activity, the Clinton administration actively intervened to make sure a Communist Chinese cargo container shipping interest got a too-good deal on a Long Beach, California, shipping terminal..."

"The Chinese deal apparently went forward without a national security review by wither the CIA or National Security Council. The White House apparently avoided normal and routine government channels in pushing the deal through in 1995. '... there seemed to be no reason to check with the National Security Council on the decision ...' White House spokesman Lanny Davis said."


[republican.sen.ca.gov]

"...COSCO Chinese government-run company currently operates two giant terminals at the huge Port of Long Beach. Ten years ago one of their ships was found to have smuggled a huge cache of illegal weapons into the port - with the smugglers saying they planned to import missiles that could "take out a 747 airliner."

"...On the night of March 18, 1996, undercover U.S. Customs and Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms agents discovered 2000 AK-47 assault rifles hidden in a container smuggled aboard the Empress Phoenix, a ship owned by the China Ocean Shipping Company [COSCO] docked at the Port of Oakland..."


[www.latinamericanstudies.org]
FREEPORT, Bahamas — Hutchison Whampoa Ltd., the Hong Kong-based shipping giant with ties to Beijing that has alarmed conservatives with its ports at both ends of the Panama Canal, is now fully operational with a $2.6 billion facility in the Bahamas.

[www.washingtonpost.com]
Democrat Bernard Schwartz, head of Loral Space and Communications, was a major donor to President Clinton's second presidential campaign.

Clinton gave approval for Loral to work with the Chinese. This ultimately led to the Chinese obtaining technology for missiles that can hit any city in the United States.

[news.ft.com]
Top Chinese general warns US over attack

Do a google for, "chinese influence in south america"








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Re: Will China be China in 2045?
Posted by: Guitarman
Date: April 19, 2006 05:32PM
As was stated earlier, chinese communism has mutated into a more mafia like organization. In that way, they are just like the thugs running our country.



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Re: Will China be China in 2045?
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: April 19, 2006 07:17PM
China will swallow the USA, thanks to companies like Google and Yahoo and many others to come. The biggest chunks of money in the world will be in China, which will buy our politicians. China will dominate South America. Mexico will merge with the SW USA. China will exterminate most of their poor, rural people - at least the ones that can't get along in the forced labor factories.
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Re: Will China be China in 2045?
Posted by: Guitarman
Date: April 19, 2006 09:06PM
Perhaps if we weren't so busy denying higher education to poor people, and denying medical care to a lot of people, and teaching kids creationism, and starving public schools for money, and in fact keeping out immigrants this wouldn't have to happen.

We're about to be beaten by a country that has free public schools for all, fully sectarian education, free universitys for those who qualify, affordable housing, socialized medicine and on and on. And a huge population. All of the things I just mentioned could be had here if it were not for the greed of a few corporate execs. THe other thing, population, woulld be cured by allowing more immigration.


We're killing off our own country.



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Re: Will China be China in 2045?
Posted by: SteveJobs
Date: April 19, 2006 09:57PM
LOL



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Re: Will China be China in 2045?
Posted by: RgrF
Date: April 20, 2006 04:16AM
By that time it will more likely be China and India in a staredown, thats if we don't upset the applecart with a mideast nuclear event in the meantime
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