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OWC Jamie · 10-12-2010, 02:00 PM

There ya go, look for a big SUV.
All the owners are the same.

Don C · 10-12-2010, 02:07 PM

Probably won't do much good to know unless he is into the retribution scenario.

A neighbor's house under construction was looted just after the appliances were delivered. The owner took pictures of the tire tracks in the mud and then took pictures of the matching tread on a truck of one of the guys working on the house. Police were not at all interested. Why spend time on the case when insurance takes care of the damages?

deckeda · 10-12-2010, 03:59 PM

Don C wrote:
… The owner took pictures of the tire tracks in the mud and then took pictures of the matching tread on a truck of one of the guys working on the house. …

Just didn't have the right lawyer and expert witness.

D.A. Jim Trotter: Ms. Vito, what is your current profession?
Lisa: I'm an out-of-work hairdresser.
D.A. Jim Trotter: An out-of-work hairdresser. In what way does that qualify you as an expert in automobiles?
Lisa: It doesn't.

…………………………..

Vinny Gambini: Ms. Vito, it has been argued by me, the defense, that two sets of guys met up at the Sac-O-Suds, at the same time, driving identical metallic mint green 1964 Buick Skylark convertibles. Now, can you tell us by what you see in this picture, if the defense's case holds water?
[Lisa examines the picture]
Vinny Gambini: Ms. Vito, please answer the question: does the defense's case hold water?
Mona Lisa Vito: No! The defense is wrong!
Vinny Gambini: Are you sure?
Mona Lisa Vito: I'm positive.

Vinny Gambini: How could you be so sure?
Mona Lisa Vito: Because there is no way that these tire marks were made by a '64 Buick Skylark convertible. These marks were made by a 1963 Pontiac Tempest.
D.A. Jim Trotter: Objection, Your Honor! Can we clarify to the court whether the witness is stating opinion or fact?
Judge Chamberlain Haller: This is your opinion?
Mona Lisa Vito: It's a fact!
Vinny Gambini: I find it hard to believe that this kind of information could be ascertained simply by looking at a picture!
Mona Lisa Vito: Would you like me to explain?
Vinny Gambini: I would love to hear this!
Judge Chamberlain Haller: So would I.

Mona Lisa Vito: The car that made these two, equal-length tire marks had positraction. You can't make these marks without positraction, which was not available on the '64 Buick Skylark!
Vinny Gambini: And why not? What is positraction?
Mona Lisa Vito: It's a limited slip differential which distributes power equally to both the right and left tires. The '64 Skylark had a regular differential, which, anyone who's been stuck in the mud in Alabama knows, you step on the gas, one tire spins, the other tire does nothing.

M A V I C · 10-12-2010, 04:41 PM

And the answer is: http://i.imgur.com/9vOQd.jpg

A Volvo S60. When he found it, he called the cops and they talked to the guy. He said he had been hit and run. Not sure what the cops said to that but he caved, admitted guilt and provided all his info.

The reason why it matters is now he doesn't have to pay his deductible and it might qualify for diminished value since it's the first time it's been hit.

mikebw · 10-12-2010, 05:44 PM

Nice find. Would not have guessed a Volvo.

You know the people over at Jalopnik frequently help field questions of this sort, generally when associated with more serious crimes but still the power of the Internet can be used for good.

RAMd®d · 10-12-2010, 08:26 PM

dek, what's that from?

Reading it, the expert witness seems to be contradicting the defense, which normally the prosecution would enjoy.

M A V I C · 10-12-2010, 08:48 PM

Ram, http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0104952/

tenders · 10-12-2010, 10:24 PM

> today I'd just spray paint the a$$-hole.

Would he stand still for this these days?

Racer X · 10-12-2010, 10:43 PM

If Banksy were doing the painting, probably.

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OWC Jamie Unregistered Posts: 50,838 Threads: 670 Joined: Mar 2024 #11 10-12-2010, 02:00 PM There ya go, look for a big SUV. All the owners are the same. Find Reply Don C Posting Freak Posts: 4,626 Threads: 273 Joined: May 2025 Reputation: 0 #12 10-12-2010, 02:07 PM Probably won't do much good to know unless he is into the retribution scenario. A neighbor's house under construction was looted just after the appliances were delivered. The owner took pictures of the tire tracks in the mud and then took pictures of the matching tread on a truck of one of the guys working on the house. Police were not at all interested. Why spend time on the case when insurance takes care of the damages? Find Reply deckeda Posting Freak Posts: 32,462 Threads: 3,127 Joined: Apr 2025 Reputation: 0 #13 10-12-2010, 03:59 PM Don C wrote: … The owner took pictures of the tire tracks in the mud and then took pictures of the matching tread on a truck of one of the guys working on the house. … Just didn't have the right lawyer and expert witness. D.A. Jim Trotter: Ms. Vito, what is your current profession? Lisa: I'm an out-of-work hairdresser. D.A. Jim Trotter: An out-of-work hairdresser. In what way does that qualify you as an expert in automobiles? Lisa: It doesn't. ………………………….. Vinny Gambini: Ms. Vito, it has been argued by me, the defense, that two sets of guys met up at the Sac-O-Suds, at the same time, driving identical metallic mint green 1964 Buick Skylark convertibles. Now, can you tell us by what you see in this picture, if the defense's case holds water? [Lisa examines the picture] Vinny Gambini: Ms. Vito, please answer the question: does the defense's case hold water? Mona Lisa Vito: No! The defense is wrong! Vinny Gambini: Are you sure? Mona Lisa Vito: I'm positive. Vinny Gambini: How could you be so sure? Mona Lisa Vito: Because there is no way that these tire marks were made by a '64 Buick Skylark convertible. These marks were made by a 1963 Pontiac Tempest. D.A. Jim Trotter: Objection, Your Honor! Can we clarify to the court whether the witness is stating opinion or fact? Judge Chamberlain Haller: This is your opinion? Mona Lisa Vito: It's a fact! Vinny Gambini: I find it hard to believe that this kind of information could be ascertained simply by looking at a picture! Mona Lisa Vito: Would you like me to explain? Vinny Gambini: I would love to hear this! Judge Chamberlain Haller: So would I. Mona Lisa Vito: The car that made these two, equal-length tire marks had positraction. You can't make these marks without positraction, which was not available on the '64 Buick Skylark! Vinny Gambini: And why not? What is positraction? Mona Lisa Vito: It's a limited slip differential which distributes power equally to both the right and left tires. The '64 Skylark had a regular differential, which, anyone who's been stuck in the mud in Alabama knows, you step on the gas, one tire spins, the other tire does nothing.	Vinny Gambini: Is that it? Mona Lisa Vito: No, there's more! You see where the left tire mark goes up on the curb and the right tire mark stays flat and even? Well, the '64 Skylark had a solid rear axle, so when the left tire would go up on the curb, the right tire would tilt out and ride along its edge. But that didn't happen here. The tire mark stayed flat and even. This car had an independent rear suspension. Now, in the '60's, there were only two other cars made in America that had positraction, and independent rear suspension, and enough power to make these marks. One was the Corvette, which could never be confused with the Buick Skylark. The other had the same body length, height, weight, wheel base, and wheel track as the '64 Skylark, and that was the 1963 Pontiac Tempest. Vinny Gambini: And because both cars were made by GM, were both cars available in metallic mint green paint? Mona Lisa Vito: They were! Vinny Gambini: Thank you, Ms. Vito. No more questions. Thank you very much. [kissing her hands] Vinny Gambini: You've been a lovely, lovely witness. Find Reply M A V I C Posting Freak Posts: 21,860 Threads: 1,734 Joined: May 2025 Reputation: 0 #14 10-12-2010, 04:41 PM And the answer is: http://i.imgur.com/9vOQd.jpg A Volvo S60. When he found it, he called the cops and they talked to the guy. He said he had been hit and run. Not sure what the cops said to that but he caved, admitted guilt and provided all his info. The reason why it matters is now he doesn't have to pay his deductible and it might qualify for diminished value since it's the first time it's been hit. Find Reply mikebw Posting Freak Posts: 21,885 Threads: 1,109 Joined: Mar 2024 Reputation: 0 #15 10-12-2010, 05:44 PM Nice find. Would not have guessed a Volvo. You know the people over at Jalopnik frequently help field questions of this sort, generally when associated with more serious crimes but still the power of the Internet can be used for good. Find Reply RAMd®d Posting Freak Posts: 52,403 Threads: 2,808 Joined: May 2025 Reputation: 5 #16 10-12-2010, 08:26 PM dek, what's that from? Reading it, the expert witness seems to be contradicting the defense, which normally the prosecution would enjoy. Find Reply M A V I C Posting Freak Posts: 21,860 Threads: 1,734 Joined: May 2025 Reputation: 0 #17 10-12-2010, 08:48 PM Ram, http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0104952/ Find Reply tenders Posting Freak Posts: 3,806 Threads: 32 Joined: May 2025 Reputation: 0 #18 10-12-2010, 10:24 PM > today I'd just spray paint the a$$-hole. Would he stand still for this these days? Find Reply Racer X Posting Freak Posts: 42,600 Threads: 545 Joined: Nov 2023 Reputation: 0 #19 10-12-2010, 10:43 PM If Banksy were doing the painting, probably. Find Reply
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