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which log to check?
#1
intermittently, shut down goes on for minutes and mostly won't shutdown without force.
I've been checking the Console logs, but there seems to be nothing of significance.
I assume I should be checking the system logs as mostly I don't shut down until I quit all apps (other then background ones) except Finder?
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#2
Which logs? >> console.log and system.log. Be aware that if you force a shut down those logs won't be complete.

Which OS are you on, and do you in fact have background processes going on, particularly form 3rd-party apps?
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#3
yes, that much I figured.
10.5.1

quicksilver
palm - doesn't help that this shiznit is PPC and they haven't updated....
but when I get my iPhone...

typeit4me
dashboad kickstart
TWAINbridge - which I think may be the culprit from some logs I've read that were complete. but there's no update to it that I can find. I believe it to be part of the stuff for my Canon Pixma printer.
and Eudora is PPC as well, which as much as I like it, may get the boot when the iPhone comes, or if by miracle Odysseus appears.
“Art is how we decorate space.
Music is how we decorate time.”
Jean-Michel Basquiat
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#4
If it helps at all, for me 10.5.1 took a long time to complete shutdowns.

Any particular reason you don't want be current with 10.5.4?
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#5
just bad experience with 10.5.2. waiting a bit for the dust to settle or not.
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Music is how we decorate time.”
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