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Tonight's fun: You pick the daddy! (Hamster husbandry 101; bandwidth warning!)
#1
Yes, you heard right. You pick the daddy. The daddy of the hamsters, that is. Big Grin

Here's the deal. I have a female I'd like to breed tonight, as she's in heat. She's Geo, the sable banded daughter of Freya and Charlie. Here are some pics:




(Geo is at the top in the top photo, and on the top left in the bottom photo)

Now here are the possible suitors:

1) Tyr, who is the son of Freya and Rousseau. That makes him Geo's half-brother (zoinks!)




... the advantage here is that he's one of only two animals I have left from Freya's first mating, so this really maximizes Freya's genes in the mix. The disadvantage is that Tyr's father Rousseau was a red-eyed cream-- red eyes comes from cinnamon (pp), so that means that there's a possibility that in the babies there would be about a quarter red-eyed animals if Geo carries cinnamon (e.g., is Pp). The red-eyed animals would most likely be mink, but could be red-eyed cream. I don't care for the mink color at all.

2) An as-yet unnamed son of Polo (brother to Geo) and Anastasia. That makes him Geo's nephew (double zoinks!)




(He's on the right in the top photo)

... the advantage here is that he's a kind of nice dark sable, and it's likely therefore that any babies he'd father with Geo would be PP or Pp (e.g., no possibility of minks). The disadvantage is that I just crossed his brother (in the photo above, he's the cream) with Inky, who is Geo's sister (Inky is shown in the above photos as the solid sable in the pics with Geo). So that would be me crossing, in each case, a nephew to an aunt, where the nephews are themselves brothers and the aunts are themselves sisters. (!)

What do y'all think? Who should be the daddy, Tyr or the other guy?
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#2
I vote for the other guy. Whoever makes it with Geo, please post baby pictures.
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#3
bfd has two cats who would be pleased to help you choose …
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#4

Not the mama!
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#5
OK guys, as it was getting late, I had to make a choice...

Sorry Linda2, but I ended up going with Tyr. My reasoning for this is that he's the older of the two males by far, and male hamsters DO end up going sterile eventually (by about 18-20 months). Females go sterile typically by 12 months. Geo is about a year old, so she is in that borderline zone. Her sister Inky, though, I'm pretty sure is preggers-- I mated her four days ago, and she didn't come into heat as she would have if she weren't preggers. So at least there's a good chance that Geo will get pregnant.

By the way -- if I haven't posted this before... interesting thing about these animals is that the females typically will not pregnant if they are not mated to "satisfaction" -- as if to suggest that there is some sort of psychologically induced conception at work.

In the process of thinking about this, I also just reviewed the rules on coefficient of relatedness. If anyone's interested: https://notes.utk.edu/Bio/greenberg.nsf/...enDocument

... so the two matings, there is no advantage of one over the other. In both cases (half-brother/half-sister and aunt/nephew), the coefficient of relatedness is 0.25.
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#6
Is it possible in these animals for the female to be pregnant with babies from more than one male at the same time? Just curious.
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#7
mikebw, yes, you bet: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superfecundation

(which is why I had to choose one or the other daddy)
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#8
No youtube video ?


:-)
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#9
billb, do a Google search for "hamster porn" -- you will find more than you ever wanted to see Big Grin ... here is an example: http://www.metacafe.com/watch/561168/hamster_porn/
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#10
:-)



I'm still somewhat amazed you find good homes for the results of all the "experimenting".
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