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"Abandon 'hopefully' all ye who enter here."
Posted by: DaviDC.
Date: September 15, 2010 05:56PM
Edwin Newman, CBS newsman, died today at age 91.
He loathed the word hopefully used as an adjective & had a sign in his office with the above quote.



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Re: "Abandon 'hopefully' all ye who enter here."
Posted by: decay
Date: September 15, 2010 05:59PM
hopefully he went to Heaven. smiling smiley



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Re: "Abandon 'hopefully' all ye who enter here."
Posted by: miK.
Date: September 15, 2010 06:08PM
I like this... (from here)

"His role as a moderator for presidential debates seemed only fitting,
for it was the dense thicket of political discourse, Mr. Newman often
said, that helped spur him to become a public guardian of grammar
and usage.

Among the sins that set Mr. Newman’s teeth articulately on edge were
these: all jargon; idiosyncratic spellings like “Amtrak”; the non-adverbial
use of “hopefully” (he was said to have had a sign in his office reading,
“Abandon ‘Hopefully’ All Ye Who Enter Here”); “y’know” as a conversational
stopgap; a passel of prefixes and suffixes (“de-,” “non-,” “un-,” “-ize,”,
“-wise” and “-ee”); and using a preposition to end a sentence with."

Nice touch ending the sentence with 'with'!



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Re: "Abandon 'hopefully' all ye who enter here."
Posted by: Buzz
Date: September 15, 2010 06:28PM
"Nice touch ending the sentence with 'with'!"

Hopefully the author was, you know, just trying to be punnee.



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and then there's times when it's really better.



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Re: "Abandon 'hopefully' all ye who enter here."
Posted by: jh
Date: September 15, 2010 08:00PM
For the record he spent most of his time with NBC not CBS.
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Re: "Abandon 'hopefully' all ye who enter here."
Posted by: AllGold
Date: September 15, 2010 09:43PM
"He died of pneumonia on Aug. 13, but the announcement was delayed until Wednesday so that the family could spend time grieving privately, his lawyer, Rupert Mead, said."

? dunno smiley

Interesting, well-written story (the NY Times story miK posted). It really takes me back to days gone by.

This in particular: "Edwin Newman’s first journalism job was as a “dictation boy” in the Washington bureau of the International News Service, where he took down information from reporters in the field." It's easy to forget how the newspapers and wires operated before laptop computers.



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Re: "Abandon 'hopefully' all ye who enter here."
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: September 16, 2010 01:00AM
I've always like Mr. Newman.

He used to appear on late night talk shows. I remember him getting quit disgusted about Bob Costas substituting "histrionics" for "history".

Hopefully, he'd forgive my transgression as I recommend any of his books for a great reading experience.

People here and at dealchat have talked about how language is fluid and is constantly changing. There is a delicate balance between that and bastardization.

I wonder what he felt about how the Internet has affected journalism.

RIP, the last best hope for the English language.




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Re: "Abandon 'hopefully' all ye who enter here."
Posted by: GeneL
Date: September 16, 2010 01:35AM
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RAMd®d
I've always like Mr. Newman.

He used to appear on late night talk shows. I remember him getting quit(e) disgusted about Bob Costas substituting "histrionics" for "history".

Hopefully, he'd forgive my transgression as I recommend any of his books for a great reading experience.

People here and at dealchat have talked about how language is fluid and is constantly changing. There is a delicate balance between that and bastardization.

I wonder what he felt about how the Internet has affected journalism.

RIP, the last best hope for the English language.

I point this out with affection, RAMd®d.

It seems to be a problem that many of us have nowadays, after relying on built-in spellcheckers for a long time.

GeneL
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Re: "Abandon 'hopefully' all ye who enter here."
Posted by: ka jowct
Date: September 16, 2010 08:29PM
I remember him getting quit disgusted about Bob Costas substituting "histrionics" for "history".


Costas should certainly know better. Those words are not even close in meaning.
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