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Is my emac worth upgrading? Can't seem to easily find Tiger for it.
Posted by: decocritter
Date: September 28, 2010 06:26PM
Machine Model: eMac Combo drive Education Model 384 SDRAM
CPU Type: PowerPC G4 (3.3)
Number Of CPUs: 1
CPU Speed: 1 GHz
L2 Cache (per CPU): 256 KB
Memory: 384 MB
Bus Speed: 133 MHz
Boot ROM Version: 4.6.4f1
Serial Number: YM3254GLNM1

Type: SDRAM
Speed: PC133U-333

ATA-4 Bus:

ST380011A:

Capacity: 74.53 GB
Model: ST380011A
Revision: 3.06
Serial Number: 3JVDAK08
Removable Media: No
Detachable Drive: No
BSD Name: disk0
Protocol: ATA
Unit Number: 0
Socket Type: Internal
OS9 Drivers: Yes

Macintosh HD:

Capacity: 74.4 GB
Available: 45.68 GB
Writable: Yes




I am having trouble on the internet and with browsers and you tube.

I am broke and attached to this little machine.
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Re: Is my emac worth upgrading? Can't seem to easily find Tiger for it.
Posted by: decocritter
Date: September 28, 2010 06:28PM
I went and looked at the imacs and I am in love, but too broke.

No issues with this machine although hard drive was replaced under applecare and upgraded right before warranty was up.
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Re: Is my emac worth upgrading? Can't seem to easily find Tiger for it.
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: September 28, 2010 06:30PM
No.

This past weekend I upgraded a friend from an eMac to a prev-gen Mac mini. Tremendous difference. Do not spend one iota of brain power trying to decide whether to upgrade the eMac.



It is what it is.
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Re: Is my emac worth upgrading? Can't seem to easily find Tiger for it.
Posted by: Paul F.
Date: September 28, 2010 06:30PM
More RAM, and then find any Tiger retail installer...
Should be good to go.

Must emphasize the "more RAM" part though, or Tiger will eat your lunch.



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Re: Is my emac worth upgrading? Can't seem to easily find Tiger for it.
Posted by: Paul F.
Date: September 28, 2010 06:32PM
( I would add my voice to the "new computer" chorus, but I understand "no money"... so add the RAM, install Tiger, and save your pennies for a lightly used 20" iMac!)



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Persistence is necessary for Excellence. And Persistence is a Decision.

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Re: Is my emac worth upgrading? Can't seem to easily find Tiger for it.
Posted by: decocritter
Date: September 28, 2010 06:34PM
And tiger is it for this machine?
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Re: Is my emac worth upgrading? Can't seem to easily find Tiger for it.
Posted by: timg
Date: September 28, 2010 06:38PM
It should do Leopard, but not the Snow variety.
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Re: Is my emac worth upgrading? Can't seem to easily find Tiger for it.
Posted by: GGD
Date: September 28, 2010 06:47PM
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It should do Leopard, but not the Snow variety.

But I don't think it would do Leopard very well with just 384MB of RAM.

Even Tiger with 384MB might not be much fun.

No mention of what the current OS is on this eMac, I'd guess Panther, but it might be Jaguar.
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Re: Is my emac worth upgrading? Can't seem to easily find Tiger for it.
Posted by: decocritter
Date: September 28, 2010 06:51PM
10.3.9

More ram is a given, if I add anything at all.
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Re: Is my emac worth upgrading? Can't seem to easily find Tiger for it.
Posted by: TheCaber
Date: September 28, 2010 06:52PM
The two things you could do for it:

1. upgrade the memory from 384MB (256MB + 128MB) to 1GB (2 x 512GB)
using 512MB PC133 CL3 3-2-2/PC100 CL2 2-2-2 168 Pin Low Profile SDRam

2. upgrade the OS (and apps) to Tiger 10.4.latest or Leopard 10.5.latest

The G4 does not have the CPU muscle needed to deal with current web media (flash, streaming video), but it can handle compressed audio (MP3) and audio streaming, static web pages and email just fine.



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Re: Is my emac worth upgrading? Can't seem to easily find Tiger for it.
Posted by: Buzz
Date: September 28, 2010 06:56PM
Max RAM = Happy Tiger...

probably not wise to go more than pizza & beer to max eMac.
additional emphasis for Paul F.



Sometimes it is what it is...
and then there's times when it's really better.



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Re: Is my emac worth upgrading? Can't seem to easily find Tiger for it.
Posted by: rgG
Date: September 28, 2010 08:24PM
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N-OS X-tasy!

No.

Do not spend one iota of brain power trying to decide whether to upgrade the eMac.


agree smiley





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Re: Is my emac worth upgrading? Can't seem to easily find Tiger for it.
Posted by: sekker
Date: September 28, 2010 09:08PM
Even adding RAM and 10.4 is not going to make that machine good for youtube.

But it WILL speed up general surfing, email, etc.

If you found a more modern, 7200 rpm hard drive, you'd also see a decent speed boost.

But the bottleneck is the combination CPU and graphics in that machine. Apple was seriously underpowered back then, and this is an education model to boot.

Just to put it into perspective - a hackintosh Dell mini 10v with a cheap external keyboard, mouse and monitor is going to be faster and would run around $300 (including a $29 SL install DVD).
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Re: Is my emac worth upgrading? Can't seem to easily find Tiger for it.
Posted by: decocritter
Date: September 28, 2010 09:16PM
I read something about that graphics issue.

Safaris is about done for me now, and I am on firefox. You tube was fine until about 6 months ago.

Mainly music, surfing, email, iphoto machine.
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Re: Is my emac worth upgrading? Can't seem to easily find Tiger for it.
Posted by: Paul F.
Date: September 28, 2010 09:20PM
I'd leave it at RAM...
Putting an HD in an eMac is considerably more of a pain in the rectum than the job is worth.

Scrounge up some PC133 DIMMS, and a copy of Tiger, and wring some more life out of it while you save for a better machine.



Paul F.
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A sword never kills anybody; it is a tool in the killer's hand. - Lucius Annaeus Seneca c. 5 BC - 65 AD
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Good is the enemy of Excellent. Talent is not necessary for Excellence.
Persistence is necessary for Excellence. And Persistence is a Decision.

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Re: Is my emac worth upgrading? Can't seem to easily find Tiger for it.
Posted by: decay
Date: September 28, 2010 09:28PM
can you find a dual g4 tower on the cheap? much easier to upgrade than an eMac. not suggesting you spend much - but you might find one maxed out for not much more than the RAM itself... video card might be better than the eMac's too.



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Re: Is my emac worth upgrading? Can't seem to easily find Tiger for it.
Posted by: Blankity Blank
Date: September 28, 2010 09:31PM
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TheCaber
The G4 does not have the CPU muscle needed to deal with current web media (flash, streaming video), but it can handle compressed audio (MP3) and audio streaming, static web pages and email just fine.
Not true. As long as it's not starved for RAM, an eMac can be quite serviceable even for streaming video as long as you stick with the low bandwidth versions most sites offer. It's not the state of the art experience, but it's not particularly painful either. Friend of mine is saving their nickels and dimes for a Macbook, because it is time to upgrade, but till Leader Day arrives, they get along quite well with Tiger and an eMac.

Now would I spend money to upgrade an eMac? Nope. I'd grin and bear it and put every spare cent into an empty mayo jar till I had the three hundred or so bucks I needed to Craigs List something closer current, even if the slog from no bucks to a few bucks was slow and arduous. If the fish are biting, you could probably get somewhere between $75 - $125 for the eMac to put with the mayo jar money.
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Re: Is my emac worth upgrading? Can't seem to easily find Tiger for it.
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: September 28, 2010 10:55PM
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Blankity Blank
If the fish are biting, you could probably get somewhere between $75 - $125 for the eMac

I'd like to go fishing in that hole.



It is what it is.
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