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Re: OK electricians, need a hand with a switch/dimmer in series. Date: October 10, 2010 06:45PM |
Normally if you have a double switch and want to control the fan and light separately from each other
then the wire from the switch to the fixture would have 3 leads - black, white, red plus a bare wire for ground.
The black & red would both be hot from the switch - one to the fan and one to the light. The white would be
a common neutral and return feed to the neutral side of the switch.
If you only have two leads (black & white) then you can control power to the fixture and have separate
chain pull switched for the fan and light.
Hope that makes sense.
then the wire from the switch to the fixture would have 3 leads - black, white, red plus a bare wire for ground.
The black & red would both be hot from the switch - one to the fan and one to the light. The white would be
a common neutral and return feed to the neutral side of the switch.
If you only have two leads (black & white) then you can control power to the fixture and have separate
chain pull switched for the fan and light.
Hope that makes sense.
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Re: OK electricians, need a hand with a switch/dimmer in series. Date: October 10, 2010 07:11PM |
Thanks, lanfil. So, basically, what you're saying is that without adding an additional wire to my setup, this controller won't work, correct? 
The fan does come with a battery-powered remote--I was just more excited about having a permanent switch, rather than adding another device floating around the house. Oh well, I'll survive
The fan does come with a battery-powered remote--I was just more excited about having a permanent switch, rather than adding another device floating around the house. Oh well, I'll survive
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Re: OK electricians, need a hand with a switch/dimmer in series. Date: October 10, 2010 07:42PM |
Yes you would have to pull a new wire (AWG 12-3 or 14-3 depending on load) Sometimes you can use the old wire
to pull the new depending a number of things including how well the old wire is stapled down and how the feeds are configured.
If you have access from above the fixture from the attic you can follow the wire from the fixture to where it
goes through the walls top plate and feeds to the switch. It's easy to drill another hole next to it and drop a new feed. Then remove the switch box and fish around for it. Either that or hire an electrician. It's a small job for a pro - probably 2 hours tops
to pull the new depending a number of things including how well the old wire is stapled down and how the feeds are configured.
If you have access from above the fixture from the attic you can follow the wire from the fixture to where it
goes through the walls top plate and feeds to the switch. It's easy to drill another hole next to it and drop a new feed. Then remove the switch box and fish around for it. Either that or hire an electrician. It's a small job for a pro - probably 2 hours tops
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Re: OK electricians, need a hand with a switch/dimmer in series. Date: October 10, 2010 09:08PM |
OK it seems that you have a matched switch so it appears that is work with a standard 2 lead set up.
I downloaded the PDF for the fan install and it shows the receiver wired in series like you said and
it appears that the receiver does the work of splitting the load. So basically this is just inline like a switch would be.
Where is your confusion ? Should be a hot (black) and neutral coming from the ceiling box
that go to the receiver as shown.
I downloaded the PDF for the fan install and it shows the receiver wired in series like you said and
it appears that the receiver does the work of splitting the load. So basically this is just inline like a switch would be.
Where is your confusion ? Should be a hot (black) and neutral coming from the ceiling box
that go to the receiver as shown.
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Re: OK electricians, need a hand with a switch/dimmer in series. Date: October 10, 2010 09:12PM |
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I may be wrong in your case, but the Wall Mount I used is simply a wire powered remote that works just like the handheld except its power is from 110AC rather than a battery.
There is no documentation on the wall switch but I agree with Ken. It appears to just be a powered remote.
How many wire leads are there on the unit that mounts in the wall ?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/10/2010 09:19PM by lafinfil.
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Re: OK electricians, need a hand with a switch/dimmer in series. Date: October 10, 2010 09:20PM |
I can give it a try, but after reading the instructions, and seeing a label on one of the 2 black leads on the remote about not wiring to the white/neutral wire, I had second thoughts. Here' s a shot of the wiring diagram with the wall control and accompanying directions:
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Re: OK electricians, need a hand with a switch/dimmer in series. Date: October 10, 2010 09:37PM |
Ken - as I read it they are assuming that the live feed is to the fixture (balck and neutral) and that the
wiring to the wall box is just a simple loop of the hot leg - correct ?
If that is the case then the confusion could be that whoever wire the hot loop to the wall switch did not
mark both wires as hot.
Clay if there is a black & white wire in the wall box does the white wire have a wrap of black tape on it or black ink (sharpie) ?
wiring to the wall box is just a simple loop of the hot leg - correct ?
If that is the case then the confusion could be that whoever wire the hot loop to the wall switch did not
mark both wires as hot.
Clay if there is a black & white wire in the wall box does the white wire have a wrap of black tape on it or black ink (sharpie) ?
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Re: OK electricians, need a hand with a switch/dimmer in series. Date: October 10, 2010 10:03PM |
Is the wall switch box a single switch box and just the two wires ?
If it is a single switch with two wires (or with ground) then it should be a hot loop and you can treat
the white wire as if it were a black (hot) and follow the diagram.
Someone should have marked the white wire in the switch box as hot - but many times it gets missed.
It's only a problem for the next guy that has to work on it.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/10/2010 10:04PM by lafinfil.
If it is a single switch with two wires (or with ground) then it should be a hot loop and you can treat
the white wire as if it were a black (hot) and follow the diagram.
Someone should have marked the white wire in the switch box as hot - but many times it gets missed.
It's only a problem for the next guy that has to work on it.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/10/2010 10:04PM by lafinfil.
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Re: OK electricians, need a hand with a switch/dimmer in series. Date: October 11, 2010 08:47AM |
Glad to hear that you got the A/C portion working, but I don't have any experience with the remotes.
I don't have much to add there, so probably a call to their help line is in order.
I don't have much to add there, so probably a call to their help line is in order.
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Re: OK electricians, need a hand with a switch/dimmer in series. Date: October 11, 2010 09:27AM |
I'm sure you have the wired remote connected correctly in the switch box, but what about up in the fan jbox?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/11/2010 09:29AM by wolfcry911.
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