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A Lion discovery - have not seen this posted anywhere yet
Posted by: decay
Date: August 08, 2011 06:41PM
New MacBook pro arrived for a client today. Boots into Lion.

Held Cmd-R at boot for Recovery. Launched Disk Utility. Noted hard drive and Lion recovery partitions on the left.

Highlighted the recovery boot "drive" and chose Burn. Burned a DVDR, 1.5 GB.

Took the DVD and booted a Mac Mini running Snow Leopard 10.6.8. Went thru the motions of installing Lion.
It required an Internet connection.

Didn't install Lion, but up to that point, it did not ask for Apple store login.

Has anyone documented this fact - that a bootable Lion install/recover disc can be created like this?
We are going to test on an other Mac with a blank HD or an external next.

Odds it will require purchase? Tune in soon...



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Re: A Lion discovery - have not seen this posted anywhere yet
Posted by: deckeda
Date: August 08, 2011 06:55PM
up to that point

After that point you'll need an Apple ID and password that's on record as having already purchased Lion. Maybe there will be a surprise opportunity to purchase it, but I've not heard of such.

Don't recall the ability to burn the installer stub mentioned previously.
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Re: A Lion discovery - have not seen this posted anywhere yet
Posted by: decay
Date: August 08, 2011 06:58PM
Related but not what I used

[support.apple.com]



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Re: A Lion discovery - have not seen this posted anywhere yet
Posted by: GGD
Date: August 08, 2011 07:12PM
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deckeda
up to that point

After that point you'll need an Apple ID and password that's on record as having already purchased Lion. Maybe there will be a surprise opportunity to purchase it, but I've not heard of such.

Don't recall the ability to burn the installer stub mentioned previously.

This is a slightly different situation, it was never purchased via the App store, it was pre-installed on a new Mac. I do wonder how Apple handles that situation when you need to restore.
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Re: A Lion discovery - have not seen this posted anywhere yet
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: August 08, 2011 07:13PM
It required an Internet connection.

And now you know why.

And why nobody's bothered to mention it before now.






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Re: A Lion discovery - have not seen this posted anywhere yet
Posted by: deckeda
Date: August 08, 2011 08:07PM
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GGD
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deckeda
up to that point

After that point you'll need an Apple ID and password that's on record as having already purchased Lion. Maybe there will be a surprise opportunity to purchase it, but I've not heard of such.

Don't recall the ability to burn the installer stub mentioned previously.

This is a slightly different situation, it was never purchased via the App store, it was pre-installed on a new Mac. I do wonder how Apple handles that situation when you need to restore.

I see what you mean, the owner of a new Mac doesn't necessary have an Apple ID and even if he did, didn't buy Lion separately here, so what prevents the decay-generated DVD from letting a full OS to be downloaded without authentication?
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Re: A Lion discovery - have not seen this posted anywhere yet
Posted by: Jimmypoo
Date: August 08, 2011 08:35PM
Seems like a lotta work for $29.
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Re: A Lion discovery - have not seen this posted anywhere yet
Posted by: sekker
Date: August 08, 2011 08:58PM
I want to make a bootable Lion installer disc for my son's machine that's running Lion. I'll give this approach a try (which looks very easy to me).
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Re: A Lion discovery - have not seen this posted anywhere yet
Posted by: Chakravartin
Date: August 08, 2011 10:43PM
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GGD
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deckeda
up to that point

After that point you'll need an Apple ID and password that's on record as having already purchased Lion. Maybe there will be a surprise opportunity to purchase it, but I've not heard of such.

Don't recall the ability to burn the installer stub mentioned previously.

This is a slightly different situation, it was never purchased via the App store, it was pre-installed on a new Mac. I do wonder how Apple handles that situation when you need to restore.

By authenticating with your Apple ID before it downloads the installation files from the App Store. It'll do that for any Mac that didn't come with Lion already installed.

If you tried to do it from the Mac that Lion came with then it would verify that the computer came with Lion using the computer's serial number so you wouldn't have to enter an Apple ID in that scenario.
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Re: A Lion discovery - have not seen this posted anywhere yet
Posted by: decay
Date: August 09, 2011 06:09AM
i searched all the tip sites - nobody has said you can burn a DVD from Disk Utility while booted from Recovery.



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Re: A Lion discovery - have not seen this posted anywhere yet
Posted by: deckeda
Date: August 09, 2011 07:43AM
See also [arstechnica.com]
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Re: A Lion discovery - have not seen this posted anywhere yet
Posted by: decay
Date: August 09, 2011 08:35AM
OK, i tried it with an external connected to a Macbook - at the point of install, it brings up the App Store login.



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Re: A Lion discovery - have not seen this posted anywhere yet
Posted by: deckeda
Date: August 09, 2011 08:48AM
Time to get out the hardware serial number tool. Just kidding ...

And then there's this, possibly taken out of context from here:

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If the system was upgraded from Mac OS X v10.6 Snow Leopard to Lion, the external recovery drive can be used with other systems that were upgraded from Snow Leopard to Lion.
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Re: A Lion discovery - have not seen this posted anywhere yet
Posted by: gabester
Date: August 09, 2011 08:52AM
I've been wondering how hard it would be stub in your own "Apple server" hosting a Lion Install image... Seems like that's a big risk exposure to the homebrew crowd... and also nearly a requirement of corporate users. I don't want a lab full of Macs reinstalling Lion from the internet I want them to go to my local server for it. Yes, I know, net boot on OS X Server will allow this but that's a different key combo - I'd like to effectively prevent installing Lion from the internet.
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Re: A Lion discovery - have not seen this posted anywhere yet
Posted by: deckeda
Date: August 09, 2011 09:33AM
gabster,

It's possible that Apple soon having the $70 USB stick is an offering of convenience for a price in order to do that or related tasks. Then again so is making your own from a $30 download.

But I get what you mean, how to do it without paying anything extra when everything in the lab came with Lion preinstalled? I get the sense that the recommended "re-install" method --- or rather, philosophy --- is to not do it at all, but to restore the system (all or in part) from a proper backup.
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