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New Towers, is Conroe the CPU? Quad Core!
Posted by: BigGuynRusty
Date: June 23, 2006 09:57AM
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It is air-cooled in these pics.

Remember, in its current state, OSX can handle EIGHT CPU's!

BGnR
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Re: New Towers, is Conroe the CPU? Quad Core!
Posted by: PeterW
Date: June 23, 2006 10:18AM
Do apps that handle multiple cores auto-scale or would they have to write versions for two cores, four cores, etc?
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Re: New Towers, is Conroe the CPU? Quad Core!
Posted by: spacescape
Date: June 23, 2006 10:29AM
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PeterW
Do apps that handle multiple cores auto-scale or would they have to write versions for two cores, four cores, etc?

I'm 95% sure that the OS takes care of Multiprocessing even if the application isn't written to take advantage. I believe that osX can handle up to 8 processors.

Bill
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Re: New Towers, is Conroe the CPU? Quad Core!
Posted by: mattkime
Date: June 23, 2006 10:30AM
>>Do apps that handle multiple cores auto-scale

Typically yes. They segment work into threads which can run on a simgle processor or many processors.

However, if I'm going to indulge in pointless speculation, I'm betting on Apple going with IBM's new G6 processor.


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Re: New Towers, is Conroe the CPU? Quad Core!
Posted by: BigGuynRusty
Date: June 23, 2006 10:32AM
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PeterW
Do apps that handle multiple cores auto-scale or would they have to write versions for two cores, four cores, etc?

OSX can assign a CPU (Core) to an app so it runs all by itself, but the developer can help by recoding the app, to make it multi-CPU (Core) aware.
OSX is very versatile in handling multiCPU (Core) computers, unlike OS9 that just let the extra CPU sit there like a lump. Unless, of course the app was specially coded.

BGnR
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Re: New Towers, is Conroe the CPU? Quad Core!
Posted by: Zoidberg
Date: June 23, 2006 10:54AM
Well, IBM has a deep freeze CPU that can do, what 500 GHz? There's my speculation. A switch back. grinning smiley


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Re: New Towers, is Conroe the CPU? Quad Core!
Posted by: Jem
Date: June 23, 2006 11:00AM
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Zoidberg
Well, IBM has a deep freeze CPU that can do, what 500 GHz? There's my speculation. A switch back. grinning smiley

Yeah, imagine the size of the heatsink and the number of fans you'd need to keep that baby at 4 degrees above absolute zero!
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Re: New Towers, is Conroe the CPU? Quad Core!
Posted by: BigGuynRusty
Date: June 23, 2006 11:58AM
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Jem
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Zoidberg
Well, IBM has a deep freeze CPU that can do, what 500 GHz? There's my speculation. A switch back. grinning smiley

Yeah, imagine the size of the heatsink and the number of fans you'd need to keep that baby at 4 degrees above absolute zero!

No fans, no heatsinks needed.
Just a giant bottle of liquid nitrogen!

BGnR
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Re: New Towers, is Conroe the CPU? Quad Core!
Posted by: pRON aHOLIC
Date: June 23, 2006 12:48PM
Maybe waiting for Photoshop CS3 Universal Binary might not be so bad after all with one of these.


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Re: New Towers, is Conroe the CPU? Quad Core!
Posted by: M A V I C
Date: June 23, 2006 01:03PM
That doesn't look air cooled to me. It looks like heat pipes, which have water in them. No pump, sure. But it's not just air cooled.



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Re: New Towers, is Conroe the CPU? Quad Core!
Posted by: sscutchen
Date: June 23, 2006 01:16PM
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BigGuynRusty
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Jem
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Zoidberg
Well, IBM has a deep freeze CPU that can do, what 500 GHz? There's my speculation. A switch back. grinning smiley

Yeah, imagine the size of the heatsink and the number of fans you'd need to keep that baby at 4 degrees above absolute zero!

No fans, no heatsinks needed.
Just a giant bottle of liquid nitrogen!

BGnR

Not nearly cold enough...

liquid N2 is 77 deg C above abs zero.

You need liquid Helium.




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Re: New Towers, is Conroe the CPU? Quad Core!
Posted by: -jeffB
Date: June 23, 2006 01:22PM
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sscutchen
Not nearly cold enough...

liquid N2 is 77 deg C above abs zero.

You need liquid Helium.

LOTS of it, since you're carrying away a lot of heat, not just maintaining something at low temperature. At $6/liter, I figure you'd probably be looking at a few hundred dollars a day on coolant.

And remember, that 500GHz is just the speed for a single transistor. A CPU built with that technology would probably go somewhere around 20GHz. Me, I'd rather wait a little longer for my answers.
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Re: New Towers, is Conroe the CPU? Quad Core!
Posted by: BigGuynRusty
Date: June 23, 2006 03:15PM
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M A V I C
That doesn't look air cooled to me. It looks like heat pipes, which have water in them. No pump, sure. But it's not just air cooled.

Very few heat pipes have water in them, there can be about twelve different liquids used. It is air cooled, the liquid isn't pumped around. No radiator, no pump, no hoses, not liquid cooled.
It doesn't even have heat pipes.

BGnR



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/23/2006 03:16PM by BigGuynRusty.
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Re: New Towers, is Conroe the CPU? Quad Core!
Posted by: M A V I C
Date: June 23, 2006 04:36PM
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BigGuynRusty
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M A V I C
That doesn't look air cooled to me. It looks like heat pipes, which have water in them. No pump, sure. But it's not just air cooled.

Very few heat pipes have water in them, there can be about twelve different liquids used. It is air cooled, the liquid isn't pumped around. No radiator, no pump, no hoses, not liquid cooled.
It doesn't even have heat pipes.

BGnR

From my experience, most have water in them. Anyway... what would you call the big copper pipes coming off of the CPU into the heat sink?



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Re: New Towers, is Conroe the CPU? Quad Core!
Posted by: M A V I C
Date: June 24, 2006 02:31PM
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BigGuynRusty
It doesn't even have heat pipes.

I just realized they list the name of the cooler on the site. So I goggled it and found: [www.bigbruin.com]

the Tuniq Tower 120 is a large cooler sporting a copper base, the increasingly popular heatpipe cooling technology

[...]

The Tuniq Tower 120 uses 6 heatpipes (actually 3 U-shaped pipes) to carry the heat from the copper base up into the massive array of fins in the radiator.

So yes, it does have heat pipes.

Here's the mfg page: [www.tuniq.com.tw]



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Re: New Towers, is Conroe the CPU? Quad Core!
Posted by: BigGuynRusty
Date: June 24, 2006 09:21PM
Air Cooloed Heat Pipes is NOT Liquid Cooling.
Sorry!

BGnR
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Re: New Towers, is Conroe the CPU? Quad Core!
Posted by: M A V I C
Date: June 25, 2006 11:19PM
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BigGuynRusty
Air Cooloed Heat Pipes is NOT Liquid Cooling.
Sorry!

BGnR

The heat pipes have liquid in them which aid in the cooling. If you can prove that heat pipes don't use liquid, then your point is valid. Good luck on that one though.

At least we're making progress... you're no longer arguing that the cooler used doesn't have heat pipes.



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