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snOMG!
Posted by: Grace62
Date: January 16, 2012 05:21PM
Puget Sounders - got milk?

Snowmageddon on the way. But you know if you're prepared, it won't happen.

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Re: snOMG!
Posted by: M A V I C
Date: January 16, 2012 05:42PM
Yep, I've been extra prepared the last few days... not much snow as a result.

I was hoping it would dump so I can snowboard snow Queen Anne Ave, but not with my shoulder the way it is.




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Re: snOMG!
Posted by: Grace62
Date: January 16, 2012 06:07PM
You may get your wish Tuesday or Wednesday.
Be careful out there!
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Re: snOMG!
Posted by: wickedsteve
Date: January 16, 2012 07:49PM
Looks like the kids get a 4 day weekend from school.
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Posted by: sekker
Date: January 16, 2012 08:54PM
and here I thought the untethered jailbreak for iOS 5 on A5 devices was released!
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Posted by: Racer X
Date: January 16, 2012 09:20PM
Just got a robo-call from Seattle Public Schools, already scheduled for a 2 hour late start.

I don't want the kids home for a snow day. They hog all the bandwidth for their games, and my porn surfing drops to a crawl.



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Re: snOMG!
Posted by: M A V I C
Date: January 16, 2012 10:12PM
Seattle schools are already 2hrs delayed tomorrow? I just don't understand it. Next thing you know they'll start delaying schools when it rains.




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Re: snOMG!
Posted by: Grace62
Date: January 16, 2012 10:22PM
Jimi the Snowman
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Posted by: Racer X
Date: January 16, 2012 10:44PM
"In anticipation of weather concerns......"
What a bunch of whining sissies. So the kids walk in the cold, and the busses are soggy inside. Welcome to Seattle in the winter.
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Re: snOMG!
Posted by: Grace62
Date: January 16, 2012 11:00PM
We don't see much snow around these parts. Just relax and enjoy.
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Re: snOMG!
Posted by: M A V I C
Date: January 17, 2012 12:15AM
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We don't see much snow around these parts. Just relax and enjoy.

That's what people say every year... ;)




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Re: snOMG!
Posted by: Speedy
Date: January 17, 2012 06:26AM
I imagine it is because of Seattle's hills.



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Re: snOMG!
Posted by: WHiiP
Date: January 17, 2012 06:51AM
The hills are alive with the sound of snow.



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Fermentation may have been a greater discovery than fire.
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Re: snOMG!
Posted by: DP
Date: January 17, 2012 06:59AM
Growing up in Detroit we rarely had a snow day-hell, we never heard of the term "snow day"!

And I walked 5 miles uphill both ways barefoot to school...



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Re: snOMG!
Posted by: Grace62
Date: January 17, 2012 10:10AM
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Racer X
Just got a robo-call from Seattle Public Schools, already scheduled for a 2 hour late start.

I don't want the kids home for a snow day. They hog all the bandwidth for their games, and my porn surfing drops to a crawl.

Heh.

Schools in Snohomish county are closed. Snow is coming down steadily outside my window. Very pretty!
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Re: snOMG!
Posted by: Racer X
Date: January 17, 2012 10:48AM
Just rain here in N Seattle.
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Re: snOMG!
Posted by: M A V I C
Date: January 17, 2012 10:52AM
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Speedy
I imagine it is because of Seattle's hills.

That's one excuse that's often given, but it apparently comes from people who are unaware there's many places with more hills that get snow and still manage.

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Grace62
Schools in Snohomish county are closed. Snow is coming down steadily outside my window. Very pretty!

That's just sad. My dad was in charge of calling snow days for a couple Snohomish county school districts. He did the same in Montana and a few other states. There's safety and there's insanity... how often they close or delay here when there's no good reason is just insane.




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Re: snOMG!
Posted by: Racer X
Date: January 17, 2012 10:56AM
Seattle Public Schools are FAR more cautious and conservative now vs when I was a student in the 70s and 80s.
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Re: snOMG!
Posted by: Grace62
Date: January 17, 2012 11:02AM
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M A V I C


That's just sad. My dad was in charge of calling snow days for a couple Snohomish county school districts. He did the same in Montana and a few other states. There's safety and there's insanity... how often they close or delay here when there's no good reason is just insane.

They made the right call in our district. Our neighborhood streets are icy and slick right now, nobody is going anywhere this morning. I live 2/3rds of the way down the side of steep canyon. When it snows like this we just stay put, the streets eventually get sanded and plowed but as you know there is not much snow removal equipment around here.
And with steady snow falling, temps falling, and 14 inches of snow in the forecast, why risk it?
This isn't Montana. The differences seem reasonable to me.
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Posted by: M A V I C
Date: January 17, 2012 02:25PM
Such decision should be made on facts, not speculation. Forecasters are wrong in this area more often than they're incorrect. My dad knew the area, knew the spots where conditions would be the worst. He would go out an inspect the conditions early in the morning and make a decision by around 5am. In all those years, he never made the wrong call from a safety perspective. He did get flak for political reasons (eg demonstrating how clueless other districts were.)

The busses are (or were at least) equipped with automatic sanders and chains. Those are still relatively inexpensive (add roughly 1% to the cost of a bus.) The 14" forecast is for tonight... there's no point in having a 2hr delay this morning because of that. Same with temps and snow falling - delaying today's start by 2hrs isn't going to help that.

I'm not sure what your comment "This isn't Montana" is supposed to mean. My dad did this same work in other states with roads icy roads much more treacherous than what we have around here. The only difference between here and Montana is around here the decisions are made based on two factors:
1. Ignorance
2. Politics




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Re: snOMG!
Posted by: Grace62
Date: January 17, 2012 03:00PM
Well it's a beautiful winter wonderland out our windows! More on the way.

When I said "this isn't Montana" I meant relative to our experience and preparation for snow storms. Montana has the experience and handles it much better, of course.
Having kids in school here for the past 15 years, the decisions about snow days have been fair, IMO. Like you said, it's not a perfect science. And the decisions in our district are made based on safety, not "ignorance and politics," whatever that's supposed to mean.
Yes the process your father used is the same as here: they inspect the more dangerous areas at 5 AM. Snow or ice in one part of the district can cancel school for the whole, even though some streets may be fine.

No buses around here have sanders or chains. The problem for buses in our area isn't getting stuck, it's the hills. We don't have enough snow days to warrant the equipment investment nor to take the risks.

Anyway, we have a lot of snow on the ground right now and it was snowing heavily by 8 AM, so definitely it was the right call not to have school today.

Hope you enjoy the weather, and stay safe,
Grace.
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Posted by: M A V I C
Date: January 17, 2012 04:15PM
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Grace62
When I said "this isn't Montana" I meant relative to our experience and preparation for snow storms.

For those in charge of making such decisions, they have no excuse for lack of experience or preparation other than themselves. There's tons of opportunities for them to gain that knowledge, they just choose not to acquire it. That's some of the ignorance I'm referring to.

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Having kids in school here for the past 15 years, the decisions about snow days have been fair, IMO. Like you said, it's not a perfect science. And the decisions in our district are made based on safety, not "ignorance and politics," whatever that's supposed to mean.
Yes the process your father used is the same as here: they inspect the more dangerous areas at 5 AM. Snow or ice in one part of the district can cancel school for the whole, even though some streets may be fine.

If your district isn't canceling a school a day or two ahead of time without any evidence to go on, then that's not what I'm referring to. I'm talking about those who canceled or delayed school yesterday. Those decisions are not about safety. If they cared about safety...

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No buses around here have sanders or chains.

Sounds like your district doesn't make decisions based on safety. It's such a minor cost, there's no excuse not to have them, other than ignorance and/or politics.

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The problem for buses in our area isn't getting stuck, it's the hills. We don't have enough snow days to warrant the equipment investment nor to take the risks.

Huh? Sanding and chains most certainly help on hills as well. There's at least dozens of days each winter where the sanding alone can come in useful. The cost is extremely small - another way to think of it is that it costs roughly 1/8th what the state charges for sales tax on a bus. It costs far more to extend school than it does to install those setups on busses.

Anyway, we have a lot of snow on the ground right now and it was snowing heavily by 8 AM, so definitely it was the right call not to have school today.




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Posted by: Racer X
Date: January 17, 2012 04:36PM
2 hour late start, and a 2 hour early dismissal. And they didn't have lunch. Gotta love their planning. No idea why they didn't feed the kids before they sent them home early.
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Posted by: M A V I C
Date: January 17, 2012 04:43PM
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2 hour late start, and a 2 hour early dismissal. And they didn't have lunch. Gotta love their planning. No idea why they didn't feed the kids before they sent them home early.

Yep, and it's partly cloudy, not snowing or raining, and the roads appear to be all clear. 2hr early dismissal it is!




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Re: snOMG!
Posted by: Grace62
Date: January 17, 2012 05:00PM
Still snowing heavily up here, 20 miles north of Seattle.
3 inches so far.
Are we gonna get the 10-12 predicted? We'll see.

I just got an email from a friend who lives in Turkey. She said she read about our "snow storm of a generation" in her city's paper.
Hope it doesn't disappoint!
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Re: snOMG!
Posted by: M A V I C
Date: January 17, 2012 05:39PM
Yeah, we've got a week's worth of food and I'm prepared to work from home for a few days.

Is the 10-12" just for today? Here they're saying 12-20" overnight. And now the rain that was supposed to come on Thurs and Fri is predicted to be snow.

I've been wanting to snowboard down Queen Anne for years, but can't with my shoulder the way it is.

It also sucks to have a bunch of high powered fans blowing all of the heat out of the house sad smiley Great time to have to cut the walls open.




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Re: snOMG!
Posted by: AllGold
Date: January 17, 2012 06:40PM
If conditions are bad enough that your school buses need chains in the Seattle area, that is probably a good reason to cancel school. ;)



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Re: snOMG!
Posted by: Racer X
Date: January 17, 2012 07:24PM
well, I can assure you that they did not need chains in my neighborhood of Seattle. Bare and wet, and has been since before they let the kids out 2 hours early.

2 hours late start, no lunch, and sent home 2 hours early. Awesome! We never delt with this level of idiocy when I was a student in Seattle 30 years ago.
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