I always enjoy these discussions... I was a baseball stats nut when I was 11. I still retain an insane amount of useless numbers in my head from long ago...

Reading about Wilt Chamberlin's 100pt game anniversary today gets me thinking along those lines again. I'm glad to see that it's getting so much recognition these days because for a while, it was a popular opinion to consider the record 'tainted' because the team somehow conspired to feed Wilt the ball the whole game...

But to say that this record will never be broken I think is a stretch. It could happen with the right circumstances...

I propose that Cy Young's 511 wins as a baseball pitcher is about as untouchable as a record can be these days. The 649 complete games perhaps more so. Last year's MLB leader in complete games pitched was 11 (second was 5). At the rate of last years leader, it would take 60 seasons to beat that record. And 20 seasons with 25 wins each would not be enough to catch that lifetime wins record.

Anyone got something better or at least equal?

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whether records will be broken tends to have a lot to do with how sports change over time. see baseball and steroids.

Eddy Merckx's domination of cycling in the 1960s and 1970s will likely stand forever since the sport is increasingly specialized.

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I'm fairly certain Joe DiMaggio's 56 game hitting streak will never be broken. No one has come close. Another baseball record, Don Larsen's perfect game in the '56 World Series will never be broken. There is too much at stake during the world series now to let a pitcher pitch a complete game.

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Eddie Robinson. Nobody is ever going to win more games than he did.

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I'm fairly certain Joe DiMaggio's 56 game hitting streak will never be broken. No one has come close. Another baseball record, Don Larsen's perfect game in the '56 World Series will never be broken. There is too much at stake during the world series now to let a pitcher pitch a complete game.

My dad was in high school when that game was played... They called an assembly in the 7th inning and played the radio feed to the students.

Mind you, this wasn't in the Bronx... Tiny school in rural Alabama.

56 game hitting streak is possible. Paul Molitor went 39 games in the modern era, and he was not the best hitter of his time.

I agree that most of the pitching records are likely untouchable, though. Not just the complete games, but the total wins and even Ryan's strikeout total will not be touchable unless they change the game in some way.

I think Ripken's and Fahre's consecutive game streaks are going to be pretty hard to break. Modern sports economics will have the top players rest when the results of some games are not on the line for the team.

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Eddy Merckx's domination of cycling in the 1960s and 1970s will likely stand forever since the sport is increasingly specialized.

Allez Merckx !!! Saw him from the side of the road in Dinard, France when he won the tour in, what.. '73 ? I rushed off and bought the consumer grade of the bike he was riding.. Motobecane. And dragged it back on the plane with me. Sadly I outgrew it by the end of high school. Gave it to the son of a co-worker who rebuilt it and rides like the wind. Very cool.

Secretariat's 1973 Belmont Stakes record may never be equalled let alone broken. His final time of 2:24 for a mile and a half was also the largest victory margin in history at 31 lengths. The closest to Secretariat's time since was Easy Goer in 1989 a full 2 seconds slower.

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Wayne Gretzky's NHL scoring records:
215 points in a season.
4 seasons over 200 points
16 seasons over 100 points
894 career goals
1963 career assists
2857 career points

So far, only 2 other players in NHL history have broken 140 points in a season - Phil Esposito twice in the 70s and Mario Lemieux, who did it a few times and is an NHL legend in his own right.

Lance Armstrong's records look safe too

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Getting away with murder, that record has been broken.

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Johnny Vander Meer's record for consecutive no hitters (2) will never be broken

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Wayne Gretzky's NHL scoring records:
215 points in a season.
4 seasons over 200 points
16 seasons over 100 points
894 career goals
1963 career assists
2857 career points

So far, only 2 other players in NHL history have broken 140 points in a season - Phil Esposito twice in the 70s and Mario Lemieux, who did it a few times and is an NHL legend in his own right.

Lemieux rivaled gretzky while undergoing Chemo.

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Joe Paterno of Penn State broke his record for the most division I (NCAA) wins in 2011 with 409 wins.

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Eddie Robinson. Nobody is ever going to win more games than he did.

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Joe Paterno of Penn State broke his record for the most division I (NCAA) wins in 2011 with 409 wins.

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Eddie Robinson. Nobody is ever going to win more games than he did.

John Gagliardi, Saint John's University in Collegeville, Minnesota. With a career record of 484–133–11, Gagliardi has the most wins of any coach in college football history.

Tells you how much attention I was paying... I remember Paterno hitting 400, but I didn't even realize he'd caught Robinson. I'd just mentally checked that one off as unreachable a couple of decades back.

Gagliardi was always something of a special case (NAIA/Division III), but that's a stunning career in any league.