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these email spoofing guys are getting good: can you gues which is the fake?
Posted by: M A V I C
Date: August 06, 2006 06:56PM
Take a quick glance at these two and let me know which one you think is fake. Then go through and read the text.

1.

2.




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Re: these email spoofing guys are getting good: can you gues which is the fake?
Posted by: iaJim
Date: August 06, 2006 06:57PM
I wouldn't trust either of them.
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Re: these email spoofing guys are getting good: can you gues which is the fake?
Posted by: blooz
Date: August 06, 2006 07:29PM
Ditto iaJim

The email address one seems more legit, but only because I never trust "activate on-line" requests.



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Re: these email spoofing guys are getting good: can you gues which is the fake?
Posted by: New.Dad
Date: August 06, 2006 07:33PM
both fake as far as I am concerned.
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Re: these email spoofing guys are getting good: can you gues which is the fake?
Posted by: Effin Haole
Date: August 06, 2006 07:35PM
I say they are both BS.

Paypal's site is www.paypal.com

No "/us" after it.

that is the first thing I noticed so far...



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Re: these email spoofing guys are getting good: can you gues which is the fake?
Posted by: Panopticon
Date: August 06, 2006 07:37PM
I'm concur with you guys, both look suspicious.
Look very similar to spoofs I've received before.






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Re: these email spoofing guys are getting good: can you gues which is the fake?
Posted by: Paul F.
Date: August 06, 2006 07:39PM
I'd withhold judgement until I knew where those links LEAD...
If they lead to someplace OTHER than Paypal, that's the fake...



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Re: these email spoofing guys are getting good: can you gues which is the fake?
Posted by: Seacrest
Date: August 06, 2006 07:48PM
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Effin Haole
I say they are both BS.

Paypal's site is www.paypal.com

No "/us" after it.

that is the first thing I noticed so far...

It redirects by country.

http://www.paypal.com/us/
http://www.paypal.com/uk/
http://www.paypal.com/de/
http://www.paypal.com/fr/
http://www.paypal.com/es/
http://www.paypal.com/au/





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Re: these email spoofing guys are getting good: can you gues which is the fake?
Posted by: elmo3
Date: August 06, 2006 08:54PM
the only way to know for sure is to log into [www.paypal.com] and see what they pop up about your account.

They're both fake; PayPal knows better than to send such emails anymore.



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Trick question.
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: August 06, 2006 09:23PM
They're both fake.





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Re: these email spoofing guys are getting good: can you gues which is the fake?
Posted by: ArtP
Date: August 06, 2006 09:25PM
My first indicator is the:

"Dear ------"

If it has my name linked to the account it may be real but if it is "Dear Paypal Member" or Dear Sir then it is a fake.''

I would say both fakes...
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Re: these email spoofing guys are getting good: can you gues which is the fake?
Posted by: h'
Date: August 06, 2006 10:16PM
#1 makes no sense.
#2 makes more sense but there's that ridulously long confirmation number to manually enter-- yeah right.

Both fake.
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Re: these email spoofing guys are getting good: can you gues which is the fake?
Posted by: Carm
Date: August 06, 2006 10:40PM
Both are fake. I agree the "Dear" part is what gives it away. Also the /us part of the link

Carm
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Re: these email spoofing guys are getting good: can you gues which is the fake?
Posted by: Phy
Date: August 06, 2006 10:41PM
Both fake.
Easy to find out-- forward to spoofATpaypal.com, and you'll have your answer within a hour or so.
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Re: these email spoofing guys are getting good: can you gues which is the fake?
Posted by: Seacrest
Date: August 06, 2006 11:03PM
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Carm
Also the /us part of the link
Carm

www.paypal.com/us is totally legit.
it would be impossible for a phisher to redirect someone from that URL without some other hidden method of redirection, which -- if the phisher was already doing that, adding "/us" to the END of the URL would be completely irrelevant.

But don't take my word for it, type in the URL yourself.





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Re: these email spoofing guys are getting good: can you gues which is the fake?
Posted by: Carm
Date: August 06, 2006 11:22PM
I know, but, they can fake a link using java script or basic html http://www.paypal.com/
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Re: these email spoofing guys are getting good: can you gues which is the fake?
Posted by: M A V I C
Date: August 06, 2006 11:39PM
Wow, this has been interesting. I did mislead you guys a little bit, because if I hadn't it would have been a dead give away.

#1 is completely fake, and #2 is 99.9% legit. The only part I changed was to mix up the numbers in the confirmation sequence. If I had simply blurred them out, you guys would have guessed it was legit.

There are two factors that limited some of you, so I realize this wasn't the most accurate test. The first being the name part is blurred. One is my correct name, the other says "ebay member" or something like that. If I blurred one but not the other, you'd know. The second factor is you can't tell where those links lead. In #1, they go to a third-party site.

I am surprised so many though #2 was fake as well. All I did was blur the name and mix up the numbers in the sequence. Everything else is just like the email from paypal.

I think the spoof one would fool most people. For me I use some email ninja skills with my paypal account. That way even if someone was to pay me via paypal, they would not know the correct address that paypal emails me at. So I could tell which one was fake by the "to."

FWIW, the spoof came to a dummy address I used to test a web form but forgot to remove.




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Re: these email spoofing guys are getting good: can you gues which is the fake?
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: August 07, 2006 12:48AM
Bummed that I didn't get to the thread before Franx spilled the beans -- it is immediately obvious that #1 is fake. The fake ones always request you to verify your billing info -- that's the solid gold tip-off. Typically, they also invoke a deadline, to create a sense of urgency.



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Re: these email spoofing guys are getting good: can you gues which is the fake?
Posted by: samintx
Date: August 07, 2006 06:52AM
I would not respond to either email
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