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feel like taking a web site for a test drive?
Posted by: M A V I C
Date: August 09, 2006 01:53AM
This isn't your standard ecommerce site. I'll leave the explaining and such out of it...

Desteenation Shirt Co. - Real Shirts from Real Places

Thanks in advance.




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Re: feel like taking a web site for a test drive?
Posted by: mikebw
Date: August 09, 2006 02:07AM
I think that it's a very well done site. Great layout and navigation, everything seems to work as expected. If only the models could be a little hotter... yawning smiley
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Re: feel like taking a web site for a test drive?
Posted by: ArtP
Date: August 09, 2006 02:13AM
Working well,

Only thing I see for expansion is a "Top Sellers" or "Most Popular" link.

Wow, looks like a lot of work was put into the site. It's almost two sites in one with the restaurant descriptions and scrolling pics.

Good job...

I also like the Sizing description:

MEN:
IF YOU

like a snug-fitting shirt
attend frequent rock n' roll shows
are under 35 years old
like to look at yourself in the mirror
typically order a size smaller than you should
think you're pretty cool
prefer a thin collar
THEN YOU may prefer an American Apparel Men's shirt. HOWEVER,

IF YOU

like a heavy tee
prefer a motorcycle to a bicycle
wear pants with a hammer loop
drink lots of beer
are over 40 years old
"imagine" yourself to be in top condition
remember the good old days
think you're pretty cool
have always tucked in your t-shirts
THEN YOU NEED our Standard T-shirt.

Please understand these are only guidelines. And we'd stake our reputation on them.


90 day return policy even IF I wash and wear it a few times?
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Re: feel like taking a web site for a test drive?
Posted by: Seacrest
Date: August 09, 2006 02:14AM
Some links go to xc.desteenation.com
The thumbnails could load faster. IOW, create smaller images for them. [ Ask GtDS how winking smiley ]

Where's the AJAX and Web 2.0 shiny goodness?





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Re: feel like taking a web site for a test drive?
Posted by: ArtP
Date: August 09, 2006 02:16AM
Could you also ZOOM IN closer on the "Folding Movie" so we can see some @#$%&???

[www.desteenation.com]

smiling smiley
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Re: feel like taking a web site for a test drive?
Posted by: M A V I C
Date: August 09, 2006 02:28AM
I guess I'll answer the comments (trying not to as it skews the comments.)

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mikebw
I think that it's a very well done site. Great layout and navigation, everything seems to work as expected. If only the models could be a little hotter... yawning smiley

Thanks and thanks. My understanding is the "models" aren't models - they actually work at the store.

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ArtP
Only thing I see for expansion is a "Top Sellers" or "Most Popular" link.

Hehe, if you only knew. The framework for the site allows for all that times about 1000. It's just not turned on yet smiling smiley

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Wow, looks like a lot of work was put into the site. It's almost two sites in one with the restaurant descriptions and scrolling pics.

Good job...

Thanks smiling smiley

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90 day return policy even IF I wash and wear it a few times?

Yep.

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Seacrest
Some links go to xc.desteenation.com
The thumbnails could load faster. IOW, create smaller images for them. [ Ask GtDS how winking smiley ]

Where's the AJAX and Web 2.0 shiny goodness?

I found a couple of those, thanks. Let me know if I missed any. Thumbnails... yeah, unfortunately it's not as easy as it sounds. You're a geek, play with the site a bit, you'll start noticing some strange strange things.

As far as AJAX goes, yes, that'll either be version 1.5 or 2.0.

Thanks again.




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Re: feel like taking a web site for a test drive?
Posted by: jdc
Date: August 09, 2006 02:48AM
$22 for a t-shirt?

have you seen this site

[www.gravyfactory.com]





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Re: feel like taking a web site for a test drive?
Posted by: M A V I C
Date: August 09, 2006 02:55AM
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jdc
$22 for a t-shirt?

have you seen this site

[www.gravyfactory.com]

You're saying $22 is too low? Cheapest shirt on that site is $25.36.

Also keep in mind that a portion of the sales from the shirts go to the business who's shirt you bought.

gravyfactory has a cool initial site, but their cart, well, um... it's a different market too.




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Re: feel like taking a web site for a test drive?
Posted by: Golfer
Date: August 09, 2006 03:31AM
Looks great! Going to have to order a shirt or two.

Really like the layout, very nice and easy to navigate.

Was looking for the sizing page ArtP mentioned, the only reference I could locate was on the Customer Service page, and the link to the sizing came up empty with a 404 Error.
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Re: feel like taking a web site for a test drive?
Posted by: ArtP
Date: August 09, 2006 04:15AM
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Golfer

Was looking for the sizing page ArtP mentioned, the only reference I could locate was on the Customer Service page, and the link to the sizing came up empty with a 404 Error.

Sizing Info (right next to Size drop down & Price when you select a shirt):

[www.desteenation.com]

It's a Javascript popup that takes U to the above URL
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Re: feel like taking a web site for a test drive?
Posted by: Golfer
Date: August 09, 2006 04:29AM
"AH, I see it now!" said the blind man!

thanks Art, can't believe I skipped right over that.

The sizing link on the Customer Service page needs looked at though, it points to a sizing.html page, not a javascript pop-up window.
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Re: feel like taking a web site for a test drive?
Posted by: elahon
Date: August 09, 2006 05:03AM
I really like! Nice and clean. Was that done by you alone, or a collaboration?

I love the cart you came up with. I'm working on coding my own cart software, but I keep getting sidetracked with my full-time job. =/

Ace!



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Re: feel like taking a web site for a test drive?
Posted by: Bixby
Date: August 09, 2006 06:01AM
I quickly surfed through all the (I think 5?) WA shirt pages, then went to California. Then clicked on the back button, and the WA section only had two pages...

All the thumbnails seem to load twice, as well.
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Re: feel like taking a web site for a test drive?
Posted by: Jp!
Date: August 09, 2006 06:15AM
Just add some 'real' states.
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Re: feel like taking a web site for a test drive?
Posted by: mick e
Date: August 09, 2006 06:47AM
Actually, if mick e needed to forgo the rest, and pick only three states in the USA - those three would be right up there.

Anyhoo - nice site, Frank. Good color palette and useability.




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Re: feel like taking a web site for a test drive?
Posted by: grad
Date: August 09, 2006 07:20AM
Works well, except that you have to wait for the thumbnails to load.
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Re: feel like taking a web site for a test drive?
Posted by: wolfcry911
Date: August 09, 2006 07:43AM
why html 3.2?
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Re: feel like taking a web site for a test drive?
Posted by: spearmint
Date: August 09, 2006 08:07AM
First time the redhead was in front of a dry cleaners. Next time she had the el camino shirt next to a poster with same illustration.




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Re: feel like taking a web site for a test drive?
Posted by: JoeM
Date: August 09, 2006 08:50AM
Nice layout. Only thought I have is maybe it's a bit too black. I'm looking on a standard Dull PC in IE with a Diamond Pro 2060u CRT and it seems to lack enough contrast between the background and a lot of the images (text is obviously fine - dark Ts getting lost).

Probably ok on an LCD and Macs. Are you happy with the look on the PC side?



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Re: feel like taking a web site for a test drive?
Posted by: jimbrady
Date: August 09, 2006 08:53AM
Excellent. Beautiful. It helps to have so many great-looking designs (some great art there), but the site does them justice... a challenge you aced.

The thumbnail loading is not as fast as I'd like, but not nearly slow-enough to be annoying (as compared with other e-comm sites... think Best Buy, or Computer Geeks).

I FOUND A TYPO! [www.desteenation.com] There's no such thing as a "momento."



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Re: feel like taking a web site for a test drive?
Posted by: billb
Date: August 09, 2006 10:41AM
"A momento enjoyed by locals and posers alike."






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Re: feel like taking a web site for a test drive?
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: August 09, 2006 10:43AM
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M A V I C
Thumbnails... yeah, unfortunately it's not as easy as it sounds.

Dude, that used to be my biggest complaint about websites from 8 years ago, when designers scaled down 40k to 60k graphics to use as "thumbnails." ;) A product page with 9-50k product images and one 80k feature image takes about 90 seconds to load on dialup.

It seems like there is a bug in Firefox (xp 1.5.0.6). When I go to a product page and then go back to the overview page, all the other images have to reload (another 60 seconds).



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Re: feel like taking a web site for a test drive?
Posted by: M A V I C
Date: August 09, 2006 12:13PM
Thanks again everyone...

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Golfer
Looks great! Going to have to order a shirt or two.

Really like the layout, very nice and easy to navigate.

Was looking for the sizing page ArtP mentioned, the only reference I could locate was on the Customer Service page, and the link to the sizing came up empty with a 404 Error.

Thanks for the nice comments and thanks for pointing that out! We'll get on that...

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elahon
I really like! Nice and clean. Was that done by you alone, or a collaboration?

The design was done by the company founder and I. He had a good idea of what he wanted. We just worked on making his concepts real and functional. You can find out a little more about them at [blog.nwsource.com]

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Bixby
I quickly surfed through all the (I think 5?) WA shirt pages, then went to California. Then clicked on the back button, and the WA section only had two pages...

All the thumbnails seem to load twice, as well.

Hmm, I think I can reproduce that. Thanks for pointing that out.

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wolfcry911
why html 3.2?

Long story. That is something that will change.

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JoeM
Nice layout. Only thought I have is maybe it's a bit too black. I'm looking on a standard Dull PC in IE with a Diamond Pro 2060u CRT and it seems to lack enough contrast between the background and a lot of the images (text is obviously fine - dark Ts getting lost).

Probably ok on an LCD and Macs. Are you happy with the look on the PC side?

PCs are tricky. Up until XP, they were darker. However, XP matched the Mac's gamma (visually.) That said, some OEMs changed it so it would be darker like pre-XP. Most stopped over the years. So we basically target brighter screens. The default anti-aliasing in FF on Windows is a little tough to read, we know. IE is a little better.

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jimbrady
Excellent. Beautiful. It helps to have so many great-looking designs (some great art there), but the site does them justice... a challenge you aced.

Thanks, that was one of our goals. We'll correct that typo.

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Filliam H. Muffman
Dude, that used to be my biggest complaint about websites from 8 years ago, when designers scaled down 40k to 60k graphics to use as "thumbnails." ;) A product page with 9-50k product images and one 80k feature image takes about 90 seconds to load on dialup.

It seems like there is a bug in Firefox (xp 1.5.0.6). When I go to a product page and then go back to the overview page, all the other images have to reload (another 60 seconds).

This is the first time I've done the thumbnails this way. I have always done them the correct way. One of the things we wanted to do was make sure all of the product images were super detailed.




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Re: feel like taking a web site for a test drive?
Posted by: Jp!
Date: August 09, 2006 01:44PM
sure, don't reply to my comment. That's okay. I won't take it personally. smiling smiley
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Re: feel like taking a web site for a test drive?
Posted by: JoeM
Date: August 09, 2006 01:44PM
MAVIC wrote:
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>>PCs are tricky. Up until XP, they were darker. However, XP matched the Mac's gamma (visually.) That said, some OEMs changed it so it would be darker like pre-XP. Most stopped over the years. So we basically target brighter screens. The default anti-aliasing in FF on Windows is a little tough to read, we know. IE is a little better. <<

I'm on a standard Dell Dimension 4550 running XP and IE 6. 2060u is connected to an IOgear miniview so I can switch between it and my Mac 933 running 10.4 and OS9. Gamma is darker on the stock PC. Hope this helps.



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Re: feel like taking a web site for a test drive?
Posted by: M A V I C
Date: August 09, 2006 02:02PM
Sorry Jp, I missed that when I was replying. These guys are only a year or two into this and they plan on expanding greatly. You should check out the FAQ page

JoeM, thanks. We'll certainly keep that in mind.




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Re: feel like taking a web site for a test drive?
Posted by: M A V I C
Date: August 09, 2006 09:13PM
On a side note, you guys may find it of interest that this site is hosted on a Mac.




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