I stuck with 10.6 for a long time, finally deciding all the downsides of upgrading were worth it. I never saw a mention that Apple split off Notes from Mail, and Todos from both Mail and Calendar. They could have at least kept Notes and Todos in the same app, but no, they had to make two.

What's next, one app to send email, another to receive, another to read and another to organize?

All I can say is I'm glad what's-his-face that decided to make this more "iOS like" got fired.

aRGh!!

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I never liked that notes and todos were in mail

Why? If you didn't want to use them, you could just remove the buttons from the toolbar and ignore them. Now I have to manage them as separate apps. Before I could put todos inside notes. That made it handy for making notes that included action items.

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Notes is now much more stable than before when it was in Mail.

I did not like the change at first, but now I prefer it separately. But then again, I use Notes for my to do list.

Todos --- do you mean Reminders?

I'm sorta wondering why it isn't all kept with Calendar. Do they integrate? I know Mail can recognize dates in emails and such and offer to add a Calendar entry.

One of these days they'll get around to doing all of that in an Apple-esq Evernote thing.

Or ... Outlook Isn't that the real endgame? One big comm center. Email, notes, cals, skeds, project repositories, the whole nine yards.

You are not going to convince Apple or any other entity to quit making changes just for the sake of change. Bitch about it if you want, but that's the only relief you will get.

Developers/OS testers may prevent some changes you never see, but unless you send in your own feedback to Apple, along with others, Apple will continue on their merry way. Mr. Ives may stop some of that, but he can cause more than he cures in some cases.

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I think I will just put an OUT OF ORDER
sticker on my head and call it a day.

I use Evernote for those kinds of things. Very handy and flexible.

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Mavic,

No complaints about the separation. Some of Apple's applications suffer from featuritis. ITunes is the first that comes to mind. Mail is another. I want an email client to handle mail. Not notes. Not to do lists. Not news feeds. Just mail. So the removal of notes and to do from Mail is welcome. That much less bloat in an already slow (in my experience) application. Now if only they'd start splitting iTunes in into apps dedicated to particular functions - one app for managing iphone/ipad/ipod, another app for music and another app for video. That'd be welcome, too.

Robert



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No complaints about the separation. Some of Apple's applications suffer from featuritis. ITunes is the first that comes to mind. Mail is another. I want an email client to handle mail. Not notes. Not to do lists. Not news feeds. Just mail. So the removal of notes and to do from Mail is welcome. That much less bloat in an already slow (in my experience) application. Now if only they'd start splitting iTunes in into apps dedicated to particular functions - one app for managing iphone/ipad/ipod, another app for music and another app for video. That'd be welcome, too.

This!

(Although I don't think Apple did anything close to a good job with the Podcasts App.

Mail is not the first place I'd think to look for Notes or To Do. And after finding and using them, I don't see any reason to have to do so.

I haven't noticed any slowness in Mail, but I still don't see the reasoning in hiding Notes and To Do there.

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