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Gotta move that baby up.

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More buyers than sellers.

about $33 dollars

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A truly new device is going to be required to keep the price above $500.

I'm really not sure what they can make that would quality. I do not believe the Apple television is going to be good enough - even with a 4k monitor.

iWatch is going to be a tough sell for a lot of people. But it'll make Apple money. Just won't be a big deal for the bottom line.

"Innovator's Dilemma' teaches us that companies the size of Apple need something really, REALLY big to satisfy continued growth.

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about $33 dollars

If Apple has really good holiday sales, I think that could get them over $500. Whether they stay there or not . . .



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A Dick Tracy style Face Time watch might do it.

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A truly new device is going to be required to keep the price above $500.

I'm really not sure what they can make that would quality. I do not believe the Apple television is going to be good enough - even with a 4k monitor.

iWatch is going to be a tough sell for a lot of people. But it'll make Apple money. Just won't be a big deal for the bottom line.

"Innovator's Dilemma' teaches us that companies the size of Apple need something really, REALLY big to satisfy continued growth.

You, like everyone else, are assuming you know what features an iWatch will have...
If there is something really innovative there, it may indeed be a market driver.
Or it will end up sleeping with the Lisa's...
Point is,wedon't know yet.

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Maybe it will be a 26 hour watch. I could use the extra two hours almost every day.

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Maybe it will be a 26 hour watch. I could use the extra two hours almost every day.

A time machine?

The ITC needs to stop more Samsung imports.

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The ITC needs to stop more Samsung imports.

Yeah, the ITC is pretty good about banning Apple's competition without the President stepping in to veto, so that's a good strategy.

I'm shocked Apple's stock didn't drop to $400, but has actually shot up, up, up. I have no idea what's going on right now.

Apple reported sales slipping on Macs, iPods and iPads. The iPad's profit margins dropped as well, which coupled with a devastating loss of market share (over 60% to under 35%), would seem like bad things. Even with iPhones having record sales, I believe Apple reported lowered profit share per unit and market share still eroded a bit (about 3%). Couple that with the last year seeing three USA carriers (remember, the USA is Apple's biggest market right now) talking about heavy losses from iPhones they can't actually get into the hands of consumers, I was thinking sharp overcorrection of the stock price.

Another thing that puzzles me, people keep saying the slip in sales is related to lack of new product, but the iPad mini and iPad 4 were only five months old to start 2nd quarter 2013, a new MacBook Air shipped in the 2nd quarter, and the iPhone sales were actually huge, slipping market share not withstanding. Will Apple really be able continue forcing large non refundable iPhone purchase on the carriers if the carriers are taking multiple billion dollar write offs (one of them rumored to be Verizon)? Will Apple get out a lower price iPhone to compete with less expensive smartphones?

Having said all that Apple is still profitable, I just don't know if they would prefer short term profitability over sustaining an ecosystem that is becoming marginalized. Apple is fine at 20-30% of the market, but under 10% might be a hard sale to suppliers and carriers. I remember the Mac and how it got squeezed out of the mainstream for over a decade.

Silvarious, You really don't think much of Apple, do you? Perhaps you should change your forum name to Debbie Downer or Beleaguered Bob.

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Silvarious, You really don't think much of Apple, do you? Perhaps you should change your forum name to Debbie Downer or Beleaguered Bob.

Are you an Apple investor? I was for years, but got out when I gel the company was heading down a policy path that was wildly divergent to my own. I also have owned likely as many Apple products as any average poster on this forum. I actively collected old Macs for a handful of years. I've spent more than enough time and money on Apple to express my opinion.

Why not add some insightfly analysis for me to chew on rather than suggesting new forum handles? If you want me to evangelize Apple with posts of blind loyalty, tell them to CTFC (cut the f*#%ing check). My time isn't free.

I'm actually trying to be dispassionate about the numbers. I figured the latest earnings call was going to lead to an overcorrection of the share price (aka, drop below $400) and then the ramp up to the next announcement would see the share price tick back up. Which is kind of what happened, except the stock price didn't take the dip I expected (which would have been a nice buying opportunity for any long term Apple stock holders, by the way).

Where do my personal feelings stand? My previous brand loyalty, why always good for Apple, was decreasingly beneficial to myself. I would have interoperability problems between devices, even when all were Apple branded and no real recourse except to accept that status quo until next budgeted upgrade timeframe came to pass.

Another concern of mine when it comes to the health of the overall mobile market is that competition is good for consumers. In the worst case scenario, where a single platform came tin win, there are enough Android forks and handset vendors to keep Google and Samsung from specifically seizing control. I can't think of a world where MS or Apple being top dog would be better. They are both companies with tighter control of the ecosystem than Google with Android. And both are very IP happy when it comes to litigating (or threatening to in the case of Microsoft) against any competition.

In a perfect world, there would be lots of mobile options and your data migration would be friction free (even if you had to repurchase apps, the data would follow user). Consequently, I have high hopes for Firefox in the low end and Ubuntu, Jolla, Blackberry (yeah, not looking good), and even Tizen (pig's fly, right??) on the mid to high end.

Look, I get it, I'm typing this very post on an iPod touch. I was an iOS user before I starting using Android devices. Before iOS I used Palm OS, Blackberry OS, and Symbian. I've also used other mobile devices such as the older Linux based Archos tablets. I know other people who really liked the Newton, the Sidekick, Nokia tablets (running Maemo), and even their Window CE/Mobile devices. There's a rich history to mobile computing and I'm sure we all have our preferences when it comes to favorite mobile device or platform.

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I'm shocked Apple's stock didn't drop to $400, but has actually shot up, up, up. I have no idea what's going on right now.

[tech.fortune.cnn.com]

Apple: The Carl Icahn effect

Two tweets, 40 minutes and $14 per share.

FORTUNE -- If there were such a thing a cheap over-the-counter calories, this is what they would look like.

At 2:21 p.m. Tuesday someone using the Twitter account Carl_C_Icahn -- presumably the corporate raider/hedge fund manager himself -- issued the first of a pair of tweets:
Apple's (AAPL) shares, which had been trading at $475.77, did what stocks do when Icahn buys them. They went vertical, touching $489.74, up 13.97 (2.93%), in the space of 40 minutes

In a statement to Fortune, an Apple spokesman confirmed that Icahn had been in touch.

"We appreciate the interest and investment of all our shareholders. Tim had a very positive conversation with Mr. Icahn today."

How many shares Icahn purchased, and what he plans to do with them -- besides watch their price rise just because he tweeted about them -- remains for now a mystery.

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silvarios
I'm shocked Apple's stock didn't drop to $400, but has actually shot up, up, up. I have no idea what's going on right now.

[tech.fortune.cnn.com]

Apple: The Carl Icahn effect

Two tweets, 40 minutes and $14 per share.

FORTUNE -- If there were such a thing a cheap over-the-counter calories, this is what they would look like.
At 2:21 p.m. Tuesday someone using the Twitter account Carl_C_Icahn -- presumably the corporate raider/hedge fund manager himself -- issued the first of a pair of tweets:
Apple's (AAPL) shares, which had been trading at $475.77, did what stocks do when Icahn buys them. They went vertical, touching $489.74, up 13.97 (2.93%), in the space of 40 minutes

In a statement to Fortune, an Apple spokesman confirmed that Icahn had been in touch.

"We appreciate the interest and investment of all our shareholders. Tim had a very positive conversation with Mr. Icahn today."

How many shares Icahn purchased, and what he plans to do with them -- besides watch their price rise just because he tweeted about them -- remains for now a mystery.

BINGO ~!~

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G.D. Kittredge III

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