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Guess who's overthinking something again.
Posted by: wurm
Date: September 01, 2013 12:45PM
The plastic tether broke off my gas cap a couple of weeks ago, and I'm looking for an easy, cheap way to reconnect or more likely, replace it. If I use some strong wire or twine, can you think of any reason this won't work? I already considered just getting a new cap, but the new ones don't come with the tether attached. Yeah, yeah, I shouldn't need a tether, but as my feeble brain ages, I don't want to be one of those people who puts the cap on the pump, then forgets about it.

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Re: Guess who's overthinking something again.
Posted by: Black
Date: September 01, 2013 12:53PM
Ought to work fine.. I'd go with something like fishing line so the cap won't be hard to turn.




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Re: Guess who's overthinking something again.
Posted by: digby
Date: September 01, 2013 12:54PM
You do know what a good parent would say: "You're a big kid. You do what you think is best."


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Re: Guess who's overthinking something again.
Posted by: Paul F.
Date: September 01, 2013 12:58PM
I think it's a good plan!

Just don't drill it while it's still attached to the car. :-)



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Re: Guess who's overthinking something again.
Posted by: voodoopenguin
Date: September 01, 2013 01:07PM
I think a good stout chain welded just inside the filler is a great idea.

Says he with an ocean in between!

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Re: Guess who's overthinking something again.
Posted by: andypie48
Date: September 01, 2013 01:08PM
cable ties?
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Re: Guess who's overthinking something again.
Posted by: nwyaker
Date: September 01, 2013 01:10PM
Zip tie, baby !
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Re: Guess who's overthinking something again.
Posted by: Black
Date: September 01, 2013 01:12PM
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voodoopenguin
I think a good stout chain welded just inside the filler is a great idea.

Says he with an ocean in between!

Paul

Hopefully they have one of these at the local tool rental:

(I recommend the additional insurance)




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Re: Guess who's overthinking something again.
Posted by: GGD
Date: September 01, 2013 01:24PM
Just keep in mind that the original center location had the advantage of allowing the tether to rotate when unscrewing the cap. The new location will require the tether to go around as you unscrew, will also get tangled in your fingers/hand.

I'd probably avoid string/twine or anything that can absorb gasoline. Maybe good sturdy mono-filament from a weed whacker.
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Re: Guess who's overthinking something again.
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: September 01, 2013 01:26PM
Some kind of nylon, and braid it so when one thread breaks, the others won't. Then redo it after the first break.
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Re: Guess who's overthinking something again.
Posted by: Paul F.
Date: September 01, 2013 01:28PM




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Re: Guess who's overthinking something again.
Posted by: rgG
Date: September 01, 2013 01:31PM
How does the tether attach to the car?
One of those little ball bearing light pull chains might work. They also have them in plastic, if you don't want to use metal, for some reason.
A zip tie would be nice and strong, but it might not be flexible enough.
How will the thing twist on, with a tether/chain through the hole? Will it have enough play?

See, I can over think with the best of them. smiling smiley

Edit: could you JB Weld a little swivel thing to the top of the cap, where the tether broke off, to allow the new tether to spin?





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Re: Guess who's overthinking something again.
Posted by: MrNoBody
Date: September 01, 2013 01:57PM
Second GGD on the 'weed whacker' line.
I use it all the time for tethers, etc. A little heat on the end
allows it to be smushed out to form a stop on the end too.



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Re: Guess who's overthinking something again.
Posted by: Ken Sp.
Date: September 01, 2013 02:02PM
Wrecking yard for replacement with original tether.
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Re: Guess who's overthinking something again.
Posted by: haikuman
Date: September 01, 2013 02:04PM
Just attach you tether to a beefy/large snap fishing swivel and it
will spin freely as you remove the cap me thinks.





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Re: Guess who's overthinking something again.
Posted by: haikuman
Date: September 01, 2013 02:08PM
You could actually cut away the snap and epoxy the swivel into the
original place the tether was attached to . . . possibly maybe *(:>*

Or just buy a beefy Double Swivel *(:>*



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Re: Guess who's overthinking something again.
Posted by: davester
Date: September 01, 2013 02:23PM
I would definitely reattach in the middle, not the side which will be a PITA. Perhaps a screw eyelet, some glue and a fishing swivel.



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Re: Guess who's overthinking something again.
Posted by: davemchine
Date: September 01, 2013 02:28PM
How much does a new one cost? Unless it is a beater I'd opt for keeping it in proper shape.





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Re: Guess who's overthinking something again.
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: September 01, 2013 02:29PM
you should team up with this guy.

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Re: Guess who's overthinking something again.
Posted by: haikuman
Date: September 01, 2013 02:30PM
There is this possibility to consider *(:>*

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Re: Guess who's overthinking something again.
Posted by: MikeF
Date: September 01, 2013 02:40PM
TIme for a new car.
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Re: Guess who's overthinking something again.
Posted by: Speedy
Date: September 01, 2013 02:46PM
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MikeF
TIme for a new car.

This ^. LOL.



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Re: Guess who's overthinking something again.
Posted by: Buzz
Date: September 01, 2013 02:46PM
hookers & booze, and use it for B&W proofing...



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Re: Guess who's overthinking something again.
Posted by: billb
Date: September 01, 2013 02:59PM

5 bucks or so at autozone



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Re: Guess who's overthinking something again.
Posted by: haikuman
Date: September 01, 2013 03:00PM
You could also use a slice of wooden doweling.
Glue the doweling into the original home of the tether.
Attach/screw davesters Eye Screw into the doweling.
Next attach the fishing swivel to the eye and then attach
your new tether to the swivel.

wala *(:>*



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Re: Guess who's overthinking something again.
Posted by: Racer X
Date: September 01, 2013 03:58PM
Nobody has asked him if it is Threaded, or a 1/4 turn Bayonet style. Mine is a 1/4 turn Bayonet, and anything attached to it would work fine. Maybe he isn't over thinking it because he doesn't need to.
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Re: Guess who's overthinking something again.
Posted by: SteveO
Date: September 01, 2013 08:35PM
Use an old DIN 8 cable.
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Re: Guess who's overthinking something again.
Posted by: wurm
Date: September 01, 2013 09:43PM
Lots of good input. Thanks.

I did think about the fact that not being on center will impact how well it turns without tangling. For that reason, I'm liking the small eye-hook in the center option. However, I'm not sure if that center is solid plastic or if there's some hidden venting system going on under the surface, so I'm a little hesitant to just start drilling down from the top.

I like the idea of the pull-chain as the material for the tether. I'm also thinking maybe some old phone cord or speaker wire, and yes, heavy monofilament weed hacker/fishing line would work.

My research (Subaru forums) has shown that that Universal tether thing won't work on this cap.

It's a threaded cap...turn 'til it clicks, but you can keep turning. (see pic)


I also thought of eliminating the tether altogether and using velcro on the top of the cap and inside the fuel door as a way of sticking it somewhere while fueling. Or maybe gluing a couple of very small neodymium magnets in the recesses on either side of the center of the top of the cap.



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Re: Guess who's overthinking something again.
Posted by: DP
Date: September 02, 2013 08:13AM
Wow! 28 responses over a gas cap...
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Re: Guess who's overthinking something again.
Posted by: PeterB
Date: September 02, 2013 10:14AM
Was I the only one who thought of this?:

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Re: Guess who's overthinking something again.
Posted by: wurm
Date: September 02, 2013 10:18AM
Actually, 29. Here's the followup (I was almost going to start a new thread).

Yeah, I was definitely overthinking this. I ended up finding an old picture hanging eye hook thingie in my junk drawer, drilied a small starter hole in the top of the cap, and screwed the eye hook thing in. My old snap swivels were too small to use for the hook and the cord, so I skipped that step. I wasn't about to buy a pack just for this. Then I sacrificed one of my gazillion rca audio cables, tied the thing off and it's done. It ain't petty, but it works. My old snap swivels were too small to use for the hook and the cord, so I skipped that step. I wasn't about to buy a pack just for this. The cord does twist a little when putting on the cap, but it's fine.

Thanks for the ideas.

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Re: Guess who's overthinking something again.
Posted by: haikuman
Date: September 02, 2013 10:33AM
Any port in a storm they say. You might want to get a Tin Foil hat and put
it in the car and only wear it when you are fueling up *(:>*





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Re: Guess who's overthinking something again.
Posted by: Speedy
Date: September 02, 2013 07:10PM
Excellent duck tape and bailing wire type solution!



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Doesn't qualify for the I Fixed It site...
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: September 03, 2013 02:40AM
...but I hope you try to clean up your fix should time permit.

At least you're not driving around holding your car door closed.






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Re: Guess who's overthinking something again.
Posted by: GGD
Date: September 03, 2013 12:23PM
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Excellent duck tape and bailing wire type solution!

Much more professional than these solutions.

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