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Keep Portland Weird, and oh yeah, boil your water until further notice
Posted by: Wags
Date: May 23, 2014 02:39PM
And honest, we really didn't know about this until after you all turned in your ballots to create a Portland Public Water District.
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Re: Keep Portland Weird, and oh yeah, boil your water until further notice
Posted by: ztirffritz
Date: May 23, 2014 02:41PM
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Re: Keep Portland Weird, and oh yeah, boil your water until further notice
Posted by: Wags
Date: May 23, 2014 02:42PM
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Re: Keep Portland Weird, and oh yeah, boil your water until further notice
Posted by: Speedy
Date: May 23, 2014 02:58PM
Someone took a dump in each of the reservoirs?

"The water samples that tested positive for bacteria were collected at Mt. Tabor Reservoirs 1 and 5, and at the SE 2nd Avenue and Salmon Street water sampling station.

The bureau says both reservoirs have been taken offline."



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Re: Keep Portland Weird, and oh yeah, boil your water until further notice
Posted by: davemchine
Date: May 23, 2014 03:00PM
I do not understand how a modern large city could have this problem.
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Re: Keep Portland Weird, and oh yeah, boil your water until further notice
Posted by: Paul F.
Date: May 23, 2014 03:06PM
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I do not understand how a modern large city could have this problem.

Rabid over-paranoia about bacteria that we have lived with for millennia..... Combined with a "zero tolerance" mentality.



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Re: Keep Portland Weird, and oh yeah, boil your water until further notice
Posted by: Speedy
Date: May 23, 2014 03:10PM
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Paul F.
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davemchine
I do not understand how a modern large city could have this problem.

Rabid over-paranoia about bacteria that we have lived with for millennia..... Combined with a "zero tolerance" mentality.

Probably true if you are a healthy individual. Not so much if you are not.



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Re: Keep Portland Weird, and oh yeah, boil your water until further notice
Posted by: billb
Date: May 23, 2014 03:17PM
animal poo

not two legged suburbanites either



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Re: Keep Portland Weird, and oh yeah, boil your water until further notice
Posted by: Paul F.
Date: May 23, 2014 03:19PM
So one bovine excretes in a stream above the resevior, and you close it down?
I know there are valid health concerns... I don't know that this occurance meets (nor know that it doesn't) meets an actual dangerous level. If it does, great.. I applaud their actions.
Somehow, I suspect it doesn't.

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davemchine
I do not understand how a modern large city could have this problem.

Rabid over-paranoia about bacteria that we have lived with for millennia..... Combined with a "zero tolerance" mentality.

Probably true if you are a healthy individual. Not so much if you are not.



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Re: Keep Portland Weird, and oh yeah, boil your water until further notice
Posted by: neophyte
Date: May 23, 2014 03:49PM
Portland's water system has these reservoirs as storage systems for its treated drinking water. I don't know if they are open to the environment or not. IMHO, they should be protected from outside intrusion. Are they?
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Re: Keep Portland Weird, and oh yeah, boil your water until further notice
Posted by: Wags
Date: May 23, 2014 04:21PM
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neophyte
Portland's water system has these reservoirs as storage systems for its treated drinking water. I don't know if they are open to the environment or not. IMHO, they should be protected from outside intrusion. Are they?

No, we have a variance from the Fed's, at least for now.

[public.health.oregon.gov]
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Re: Keep Portland Weird, and oh yeah, boil your water until further notice
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: May 23, 2014 04:43PM
Portlandia: It's the water! grinning smiley



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Re: Keep Portland Weird, and oh yeah, boil your water until further notice
Posted by: neophyte
Date: May 23, 2014 04:46PM
Well that explains how it can happen that treated drinking water can become contaminated with fecal coliforms. So, boil away. Chlorine bleach is cheap, too.
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Re: Keep Portland Weird, and oh yeah, boil your water until further notice
Posted by: rjmacs
Date: May 23, 2014 05:59PM
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neophyte
Well that explains how it can happen that treated drinking water can become contaminated with fecal coliforms. So, boil away. Chlorine bleach is cheap, too.

Also, tasty!



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Re: Keep Portland Weird, and oh yeah, boil your water until further notice
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: May 23, 2014 06:13PM
Also, some Chipotle locations are closed,

then you know it's bad...

the main thing that would concern me is restaurants not throwing out all the ice they have right now and then sterilizing all the ice machines and storage containers. Otherwise you're going to get contaminated water with your soft drink.
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Re: Keep Portland Weird, and oh yeah, boil your water until further notice
Posted by: Mike Johnson
Date: May 23, 2014 06:49PM
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Paul F.
So one bovine excretes in a stream above the resevior, and you close it down?
No. One cow poops in a stream above a reservoir, it doesn’t cause elevated levels well downstream three days running. Portland has open air reservoirs, and some contamination is inevitable. This is way beyond what’s normal or typical.

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Paul F.
I don't know that this occurance meets (nor know that it doesn't) meets an actual dangerous level. If it does, great.. I applaud their actions.
Somehow, I suspect it doesn't.

Well, it’s awesome that you’re so comfortable sharing an ill-informed opinion.

Fecal coliform causes illnesses like gastroenteritis. In this case, there’s a bigger problem, which is they don’t know where it’s coming from. The fecal coliform is both a contaminant and a marker. It’s easy to test for; when you see it and you don’t know the source, you have to worry about things like other bacteria, viruses, and parasites. Imagine a main leak causing low water pressure at a hospital where a faulty backflow preventer is allowing sewage to contaminate the water main.

They are undoubtedly testing the water for things like norovirus, but those tests take time, and contaminated water kills people. This isn’t like upset tummy stuff. We’re talking dead babies.
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Re: Keep Portland Weird, and oh yeah, boil your water until further notice
Posted by: Wags
Date: May 23, 2014 08:50PM
Nice motto.


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Re: Keep Portland Weird, and oh yeah, boil your water until further notice
Posted by: billb
Date: May 23, 2014 09:04PM
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Lemon Drop
Also, some Chipotle locations are closed,

then you know it's bad...

the main thing that would concern me is restaurants not throwing out all the ice they have right now and then sterilizing all the ice machines and storage containers. Otherwise you're going to get contaminated water with your soft drink.
Why would they not be doing exactly that.
They've done so in the past.

Quite a few restaurants, cafes and bars are planning on closing.
Considerable losses of prepped food will be lost by quite a few establishments.



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Re: Keep Portland Weird, and oh yeah, boil your water until further notice
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: May 23, 2014 09:08PM
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billb
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Lemon Drop
Also, some Chipotle locations are closed,

then you know it's bad...

the main thing that would concern me is restaurants not throwing out all the ice they have right now and then sterilizing all the ice machines and storage containers. Otherwise you're going to get contaminated water with your soft drink.
Why would they not be doing exactly that.
They've done so in the past.

Quite a few restaurants, cafes and bars are planning on closing.
Considerable losses of prepped food will be lost by quite a few establishments.

that was just little dig on Chipotle. That's all.
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Re: Keep Portland Weird, and oh yeah, boil your water until further notice
Posted by: Wags
Date: May 23, 2014 09:17PM
Just got back from a run to New Seasons grocery. They had to trash all their produce and about half of their deli.
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