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Know anything about a company named Epic, based in Madison, WI?
Posted by: Ammo
Date: June 10, 2014 11:26AM
My daughter has an interview there today for a quality assurance job.

www.epic.com/
Electronic Health Record software for mid-size and large medical groups, hospitals and integrated healthcare organizations.



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Re: Know anything about a company named Epic, based in Madison, WI?
Posted by: clay
Date: June 10, 2014 11:30AM
not specifically, but I know they're a huge company.
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Re: Know anything about a company named Epic, based in Madison, WI?
Posted by: Will Collier
Date: June 10, 2014 11:56AM
Shopped there once. I wanted it all, but they didn't have it.

(Sorry. Bad 80's joke.)
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Re: Know anything about a company named Epic, based in Madison, WI?
Posted by: mattkime
Date: June 10, 2014 12:03PM
A friend of mine worked for them here in nyc.



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Re: Know anything about a company named Epic, based in Madison, WI?
Posted by: Yoyodyne ArtWorks
Date: June 10, 2014 12:44PM
She had better be fresh out of college, they don't like hiring older people with lots of work experience. They like to train people in the "Epic way" and want to start with a clean slate, so to speak.



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Re: Know anything about a company named Epic, based in Madison, WI?
Posted by: Ammo
Date: June 10, 2014 01:19PM
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Yoyodyne ArtWorks
She had better be fresh out of college, they don't like hiring older people with lots of work experience. They like to train people in the "Epic way" and want to start with a clean slate, so to speak.

Yes, she just graduated last month. In a tight job market, this might be a good place to start with decent benefits and pay.



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Re: Know anything about a company named Epic, based in Madison, WI?
Posted by: Black
Date: June 10, 2014 01:22PM
We use Epic at my second job. It's a hair less horrible than all the other horrible medical software.




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Re: Know anything about a company named Epic, based in Madison, WI?
Posted by: Ammo
Date: June 10, 2014 01:51PM
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Black
We use Epic at my second job. It's a hair less horrible than all the other horrible medical software.

Not exactly a ringing endorsement! :-) I wonder why it's so difficult to write good software for this industry.



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Re: Know anything about a company named Epic, based in Madison, WI?
Posted by: Black
Date: June 10, 2014 02:11PM
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Ammo
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Black
We use Epic at my second job. It's a hair less horrible than all the other horrible medical software.

Not exactly a ringing endorsement! :-) I wonder why it's so difficult to write good software for this industry.

Because there are layers of crushing institutional/organizational pressure in place preventing the end user from complaining too loudly about it.




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Re: Know anything about a company named Epic, based in Madison, WI?
Posted by: mattkime
Date: June 10, 2014 02:40PM
the software is bad because the problem is stupidly convoluted.



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Re: Know anything about a company named Epic, based in Madison, WI?
Posted by: Paul F.
Date: June 10, 2014 02:43PM
Because they don't have good quality assurance people...
Yet! grinning smiley



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Re: Know anything about a company named Epic, based in Madison, WI?
Posted by: Black
Date: June 10, 2014 03:31PM
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the software is bad because the problem is stupidly convoluted.

Most of the constraints causing the "convolution" are noble ones, e.g. the need to have information accessible and easy to parse to/by those who need access to it while respecting confidentiality/privacy.
But to the extent that this type of software is typically vetted and chosen by those who have no particular skill in information technology, the complexity is certanly a major factor in the resultant suckage.




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Re: Know anything about a company named Epic, based in Madison, WI?
Posted by: bazookaman
Date: June 10, 2014 06:04PM
"If you're not a part of the solution, there's good money to be made in prolonging the problem."



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Re: Know anything about a company named Epic, based in Madison, WI?
Posted by: mrlynn
Date: June 10, 2014 06:51PM
Epic is a major player in the EMR/EHR market, aiming at large institutions and organizations, not for small groups or practices.

In my opinion it is difficult to write medical-records software because you are essentially trying to fit complex longitudinal data into frameworks (databases) that were designed for banks, warehouses, and the like. This also leads to interfaces that are time-consuming and cumbersome for providers and other clinical people to use efficiently.

Back when we were using an EMR, I had some ideas how it might be done better, but I am not a developer, and figured it would take a lot of money and time to hire people to do it. If anyone's got, say, $40 million or so, I'd be willing to give it a try.

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Re: Know anything about a company named Epic, based in Madison, WI?
Posted by: onthedownlow
Date: June 10, 2014 07:30PM
Yes. I know some major hospital systems that have switched over to them in the last year. In fact, I will be gearing up for another training for them on Thursday.



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Re: Know anything about a company named Epic, based in Madison, WI?
Posted by: JoeBob
Date: June 11, 2014 08:54AM
I use Epic software at the hospital. I does suck just a bit less than the other alternatives. It is easier to modify for individual areas than the alternatives. It does cut out some redundancy in charting, so I only have to chart the same information in 2 or 3 places instead of 5 or 6.
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Re: Know anything about a company named Epic, based in Madison, WI?
Posted by: Felix
Date: June 12, 2014 12:51AM
Their campus is expanding by leaps and bounds. Some of their buildings are oversize replicas of farm buildings that evoke the rural image.

The next round of office buildings going up are supposed to evoke Hogwarts.

And Epic is in Verona, not Madison.



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Re: Know anything about a company named Epic, based in Madison, WI?
Posted by: Don C
Date: June 12, 2014 11:34PM
If she can adapt to the winters, she will probably love the Madison area. Being a college town she'll find a lot of activity for her age. There is lots of outdoor activity in central Wisconsin and if Epic hires mostly young people, you would expect that she'll be introduced to the social scene by her new colleagues.
Congrats on the job!
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Re: Know anything about a company named Epic, based in Madison, WI?
Posted by: mrlynn
Date: June 13, 2014 05:14AM
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Don C
If she can adapt to the winters, she will probably love the Madison area. Being a college town she'll find a lot of activity for her age. There is lots of outdoor activity in central Wisconsin and if Epic hires mostly young people, you would expect that she'll be introduced to the social scene by her new colleagues.
Congrats on the job!

I think the Ammo said she was interviewing. No job yet, but a good start. In today's job market, just getting an interview is an accomplishment.

If that doesn't pan out, eClinicalWorks here in Massachusetts (Westborough) is hiring:

[www.eclinicalworks.com]

Good company, good product; fast growing (private).

/Mr Lynn
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