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Opinion re/"Death of Firewire"
Posted by: Zoidberg
Date: December 12, 2005 01:45PM
Interesting article/blog (blogicle?) by O'Grady (of the PowerPage):

[blogs.zdnet.com]

Snippet:

"Now I'm hearing that FireWire is gone completely from the new Intel iBooks that are coming next month, but its loss should come as a surprise to no one, given Apple's moves of late. A little birdy told me that the new Intel PowerBooks will lose FireWire 400 completely and retain only one FireWire 800 port as a concession to video professionals."

Thoughts?



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Re: Opinion re/"Death of Firewire"
Posted by: Jimmypoo
Date: December 12, 2005 01:48PM
It fits right in with my prediction a few months ago - by almost the same title, over in the "other dimension."
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Re: Opinion re/"Death of Firewire"
Posted by: HeyDude
Date: December 12, 2005 01:50PM
scsi and firewire do not make enough profits. This is why the pc world is going to serial, so that if you want anything more than dual channel, you'll have to pay through the nose.
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Re: Opinion re/"Death of Firewire"
Posted by: Lew Zealand
Date: December 12, 2005 01:53PM
I guess I'll have to hang on to my copious amounts of old technology Macs so I can D/L songs to my original 5GB iPod.

Like I haven't been doing that already for 15 years or so…
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Re: Opinion re/"Death of Firewire"
Posted by: Jimmypoo
Date: December 12, 2005 01:54PM
What I want to know is....


WHY can't we get PHOTOS of prototypes out of Apple, but the Russians and Chinese can get intelSAT blueprints and user guides out of the Pentagon?
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Re: Opinion re/"Death of Firewire"
Posted by: MacMagus
Date: December 12, 2005 01:55PM
This was discussed quite a bit in that other forum.

[forums.dealmac.com]
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Re: Opinion re/"Death of Firewire"
Posted by: Paul F.
Date: December 12, 2005 02:01PM
Great.. we already have "Search that OTHER Forum" (STOF) posts...LOL...


I'll be annoyed if I lose Firewire Target Disk mode...
Far more convenient that installing from a set of optical media.
Darn useful for drive-cloning too.








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Re: Opinion re/"Death of Firewire"
Posted by: JJ_TKOB
Date: December 12, 2005 02:02PM
"...and retain only one FireWire 800 port as a concession to video professionals."

How is adding an improved Firewire port equal to the "Death of Firewire"?

Or did I misread this?



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Re: Opinion re/"Death of Firewire"
Posted by: kap
Date: December 12, 2005 02:05PM
What WE want to know is ...

Why isn't Apple hired to secure the Pentagon?

winking smiley

kap


Jimmypoo Wrote:
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> What I want to know is....
>
>
> WHY can't we get PHOTOS of prototypes out of
> Apple, but the Russians and Chinese can get
> intelSAT blueprints and user guides out of the
> Pentagon?






SoCal for now.
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Re: Opinion re/"Death of Firewire"
Posted by: Paul F.
Date: December 12, 2005 02:08PM
You sure you WANT Apple in the Pentagon?

You ever see the movie "War Games" ?






Paul F.
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A sword never kills anybody; it is a tool in the killer's hand. - Lucius Annaeus Seneca c. 5 BC - 65 AD
----
Good is the enemy of Excellent. Talent is not necessary for Excellence.
Persistence is necessary for Excellence. And Persistence is a Decision.

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Re: Opinion re/"Death of Firewire"
Posted by: Zoidberg
Date: December 12, 2005 02:10PM
Wait, Paul; what kind of computers do you think they're using *now*?

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Re: Opinion re/"Death of Firewire"
Posted by: Jimmypoo
Date: December 12, 2005 02:11PM
I was thinking the same thing!


btw... here is my September thread on the DEATH of FW.

[forums.dealmac.com]

yeah.... it's in the other dimension. Just make sure you get back here IMMEDIATELY after reading it!

grinning smiley
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Re: Opinion re/"Death of Firewire"
Posted by: ka jowct
Date: December 12, 2005 02:17PM
If it really won't be included in the next iBooks, that will make me a lot less interested in owning one.
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Re: Opinion re/"Death of Firewire"
Posted by: pipiens
Date: December 12, 2005 02:19PM
There is no need for firewire 400 since 800 is backwards compatible and you can connect with a 400/800 cable.

It's hard to believe that all that new video equipment will not be able to connect to a Mac.
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Re: Opinion re/"Death of Firewire"
Posted by: SLM
Date: December 12, 2005 02:35PM
Sounds like a load of baloney.

iSight anyone?
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Re: Opinion re/"Death of Firewire"
Posted by: iaJim
Date: December 12, 2005 04:23PM
If iSight is built in......
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Re: Opinion re/"Death of Firewire"
Posted by: Guitarman
Date: December 12, 2005 06:05PM
exactly how is the inclusion of FW 800 the death of firewire?
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Re: Opinion re/"Death of Firewire"
Posted by: Silencio
Date: December 12, 2005 07:33PM
O'Grady is a crackhead.
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Re: Opinion re/"Death of Firewire"
Posted by: guitarist
Date: December 13, 2005 02:37AM
"I guess I'll have to hang on to my copious amounts of old technology Macs so I can D/L songs to my original 5GB iPod.

Like I haven't been doing that already for 15 years or so…"

Silliest post I've seen yet. Like your 5 GB iPod has a long future ahead of it. It's well beyond its expected life span. Is it on its original battery? Hang on to it, it'll be a collector's item, the 8th Wonder of the World!

You know we now have 60GB iPods that cost as much as your 5GB iPod did new, right?
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Re: Opinion re/"Death of Firewire"
Posted by: mikebw
Date: December 13, 2005 03:25AM
HEy- I still use a 5GB ipod, sure I've replaced the hard drive and battery with ones from discarded 5GB ipods, but the darn thing still works!

I don't forsee any it failing anytime soon, works great for my needs. I charge it everynight, and update my songs when I feel it necessary, 5GB is plenty of space, even with 256kbps mp3s. Who really needs 60GB of space for just music? I mean I've got over 45GB of music at home, but NO WAY would I need to take all of this with me, that's almost 2 weeks of non-stop music. no iPod battery will play out that long.
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Re: Opinion re/"Death of Firewire"
Posted by: guitarist
Date: December 13, 2005 01:40PM
"HEy- I still use a 5GB ipod, sure I've replaced the hard drive and battery with ones from discarded 5GB ipods, but the darn thing still works! "

Yes--just suggesting, this is the exception, not the rule.

Most high-tech hand-held portable devices aren't considered a permanent fixture, usually they're semi-disposable, replaced as better, newer ones come out. Novelty tends to drive the market, as well as fast-moving technology with regards to capacity, battery life, etc.

There will always be die-hards that keep them running forever. But this isn't a factor in whether new standards are adopted or not adopted.

I think the "death of Firewire" Chicken-Little battle cry is getting undue attention. There's not enough credible evidence, in fact, there isn't a single Intel-based Apple computer on the market yet! In the meantime, everybody's an expert. It's fun to guess and speculate, but that's all it is.
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