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this is THE REAL Steely Dan
Posted by: hal
Date: August 28, 2014 11:20PM
I remember back in the early 90s being so excited to know that Steely Dan was going to tour for the first time since 1974. OMG! I know they got a little mushy near the end of their run, but I had an old cassette bootleg of one 1974 show and they kicked ass! No mousey little sax solos, no... Skunk Baxter on guitar - yeah! and the rest of the band was just a knock-out band that could floor you with raw power. Not your daddy's Steely Dan... um... something like that. That Steely Dan show in 1993? God it sucked! It was like they were playing Muzak versions of their own songs. They had the 'mellow' turned up to 11. Yuck!

So I was telling a buddy about that 74 tour and I was just now digging around youtube looking for a version of it to forward to him. It's here: [www.youtube.com]

Then I stumble on this one - even better! [www.youtube.com] and then THIS ONE from the UK - a few months after that one that I knew of that was really a pre-tour party show. That UK show is also has very good sound quality, but now the band has a few months of road experience and they are TIGHT! These newer shows were nowhere to be found a few years ago. I gotta remember to keep checking...

I know there are a lot old SD fans that love all of the albums and never knew about this other Steely Dan band, but to me, this is the real Steely Dan. Listen and enjoy... if you don't like it - too bad!

:-)

Highlights imo: Bodhisattva, The Boston Rag, Do It Again , King of the World (wow!), Instrumental aka Your Gold Teeth II (except the UK version is just an abbreviation), Reelin in the Years, but really, there aren't many duds.



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Re: this is THE REAL Steely Dan
Posted by: Black
Date: August 28, 2014 11:42PM
For whatever reason I don't have much of a concept of what Steely Dan looks like....
what the heck is going on in here?
[www.youtube.com]




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Re: this is THE REAL Steely Dan
Posted by: RgrF
Date: August 29, 2014 12:08AM
Hadn't heard it for quite a while (once had the vinyl), thanks Hal.
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Re: this is THE REAL Steely Dan
Posted by: eustacetilley
Date: August 29, 2014 12:58AM
Um, the real Steely Dan was a creation of William Burroughs, and it was a... well...
You better read it for yourself:
[www.granatino.com]

As strange as it may seem, this article actually snows some literary cred on the band and their lyrics.

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Re: this is THE REAL Steely Dan
Posted by: DP
Date: August 29, 2014 06:42AM
I liked their later work and think Aja is one of the best albums ever. The earlier stuff, while good, was pop.
You want to understand things individually, listen to "11 Tracks of Whack", Walter Becker's solo album. Definitely different. Very different...
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Re: this is THE REAL Steely Dan
Posted by: flightdelayedagain
Date: August 29, 2014 08:02AM
Always like them - I read somewhere or maybe saw this documentary about how Fagen and Becker would do countless takes in the studio to get a part just right. Real perfectionists.
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Re: this is THE REAL Steely Dan
Posted by: deckeda
Date: August 29, 2014 08:24AM
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flightdelayedagain
Always like them - I read somewhere or maybe saw this documentary about how Fagen and Becker would do countless takes in the studio to get a part just right. Real perfectionists.
[www.youtube.com]

Yeah, and another one who comes to mind like that is Brian Wilson.

The Hey Nineteen clip posted above is a curiosity but I did read once in a Fagen interview that he never really listens again to his past recordings. I didn't take it as not warning to wallow in past glories so much as not being interested in the music and moving on to something new. That might "explain" why concert songs later get new arrangements and interpretations. To keep the sanity.

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Then I stumble on this one - even better! [www.youtube.com]

Jeff Porcaro at 20, his pro career only started 3 years earlier, and knocking it out of the park.
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Re: this is THE REAL Steely Dan
Posted by: Will Collier
Date: August 29, 2014 08:37AM
I have a bunch of those old '74 shows. They're a blast.

We were lucky enough to catch them in Boston a few years ago for the first of the "full album" sets, where they played multiple nights in a venue and picked out a full LP (Aja, The Royal Scam, or Gaucho) to start the set list. They opened with all of Aja (awesome), then Fagen noted that a local newspaper critic had complained the band wasn't going to do "The Royal Scam" on that Boston run. "But we've got some time, so let's play it now!" So they did, full album, followed by a long encore set of other tunes. Great, great show.

Dig around for the Quad versions of the first few albums; they've been made into digital versions available in certain corners of the interwebs. Lot of different takes and instrumental parts that didn't make the stereo mixes.
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Re: this is THE REAL Steely Dan
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: August 29, 2014 10:56AM
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eustacetilley
Um, the real Steely Dan was a creation of William Burroughs, and it was a... well...

lol! That is just what I was expecting when I clicked.
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Re: this is THE REAL Steely Dan
Posted by: rgG
Date: August 29, 2014 11:13AM
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Lux Interior
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eustacetilley
Um, the real Steely Dan was a creation of William Burroughs, and it was a... well...

lol! That is just what I was expecting when I clicked.

OK, that makes me feel better, because that is what I was expecting, too. grinning smiley





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Re: this is THE REAL Steely Dan
Posted by: JoeM
Date: August 29, 2014 02:39PM
I used to chat with Jeff "Skunk" Baxter when he worked at Jimmy's Music Shop on W.48th St. back in the mid 60's and at the other shops on the street back then. I think he sold me my first good guitar, a Fender Telecaster for $160.00 with case at the time. He was a really nice guy and very helpful.

If you like early Dan and haven't heard the Bodhisattva (live) B side to the Hey Nineteen 45, do yourself a favor and get a hold of it. You'll be treated to the wonderful/colorful introduction by the very inebriated "host" Jerome Aniton. I received the 45 as a promo from MCA when released and it has to be one of my all time favs.

Some background on the wonderful Mr. Aniton here:
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Re: this is THE REAL Steely Dan
Posted by: hal
Date: August 29, 2014 02:52PM
Baxter is a sharp guy. I remember some history of rock & roll series that had to keep defaulting to baxter interviews for quality descriptions of guitarists styles. How do you compare Santana to Jeff Beck? It's obvious when you hear it, but how does one describe it in words? Baxter is remarkably good at that - by far the best of the dozens of interviews in that series.

I've heard that Bodhisattva - I think it was in a box package - hilarious intro!
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Re: this is THE REAL Steely Dan
Posted by: decay
Date: August 29, 2014 02:55PM
“Hey Nineteen” is a song by American jazz rock band Steely Dan, written by members Walter Becker and Donald Fagen, and released on their 1980 album Gaucho. According to one reviewer’s interpretation, the song “was about a middle-aged man’s disappointment with a young lover. Donald Fagen once said in an interview that his hope was that songs like "Hey 19" would be enjoyed by ‘soccer moms’ in dentist chairs bobbing their heads unaware of the filthy lyrics. “Hey Nineteen” peaked at #10 on the Billboard Hot 100 chart in early-1981.

regarding the single:

Side B: Live at Santa Monica Civic, Original Recording on Cassette 7-4 74. Your host: Jerome Aniton. (Notes on Labels)


Jerome Aniton was the truck driver for Steely Dan during their early 70's tours.

It is June, 1974. Steely Dan is playing at the Santa Monica Civic Auditorium in sunny California). Jerome, intoxicated beyond the Milky Way, steps on stage to introduce the band.

Any thoughts on how he will address the crowd soon fade away. But Jerome is skating backwards at the speed of light. The audience goes wild; Walter and Donald are ecstatic. "Mr. Whatever is here tonight." Don't worry, Jerome: They got the Steely Dan T-shirt.

Jerome, they better be good to ya, wherever you are.
Testing... one, two... testing
Good afternoon, Ladies and Gentlemen

We're glad you made it here tonite
Becau' you gonna miss a...
you can tell yo friend tomorro'
that they gonna miss out on a (bleep)damn good thang we gonna give you tonite.

(drum roll)

Yeah!
Right on!

What we gonna give you tonight, it'll be down to the nitty gritty.
Yeah!

You can tell all yo friends... Way home in uh...
Hell... Hell! I don't care, you can tell 'em, in anyway you want (bleep)! Hahahahahaha...
You can tell 'em that, you can tell 'em tonite
That Santa Monica had been definee' set on fire.
And they make, and they make out on uh... them good thang.
The best thing ever happened to Santa Monica is gonna be here tonite.

(drum roll)

Yeah!

And you can also... Aw, you little ol' purty... purty, little purty one, Uh!
If he ain't here tonite, Uh! You can tell him, forget it too, you know.
Because, Mister... Whatevah, is here tonite
He gonna get down tonight, Brother
He gonna get with it
He gonna give you something that Santa Monica that never had.
If it good to ya, it got to be good for ya!

Right on! Yeah!

And one thing I can tell ya, Brother. He's here tonight.
Mr. Magnificent one is here... The Beautiful one is here...
Hahaha, you little 'ol purty one, you here two
You know... Whatevah.

Here is the Magnificent one
The one and only one
Mr... Steely... Dan... Whatever!

Band starts playing Bodhisattva


Steely Dan - Bodhisattva (Live)
Recorded (on cassette), live at the Santa Monica Civic Auditorium , Santa Monica, California - June, 1974.
"Hey Nineteen" Single, "B"-side (1980)
"Citizen Steely Dan", Box set (1993)

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On their 1974 US tour Steely Dan had hired a truck driver @#$%& emcee called Jerome Aniton. He was a character quite unlike his employers with an unquenchable thirst for alcohol and a devil-may-care attitude that, perversely, Becker and Fagan admired too no end. His fondness for alcohol did wonders for his introductions, and on more than one occasion he crashed the equipment truck. At the prestigious Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts in Washington DC, where at the time Steely Dan were the only "rock 'n' roll" group permitted to play, Aniton did thousands of dollars' worth of damage driving their equipment truck out of the building, smashing a massive hole in one trailer which housed most of Dinky Dawson's personal possessions. It was raining torrents as Steely Dan's crew drove to their next gig in Boston so someone had crawl up on to the top of the trailer and try to patch the hole over before the gear inside was ruined.

On another occasion Aniton drove from Baltimore to Washington at night without headlights accompanied by two fifteen-year-old girls in the front seat. He was accident prone and incessantly intoxicated, and ought not to have been allowed to continue with such responsibility, but Becker and Fagan had taken a shine to him and insisted he be retained in some capacity.

So Aniton became the comedian of the party, sending the band into paroxysms of laughter with unconventional behavior he considered normal. Aniton was given the responsibility of introducing the band on stage and his introductions were exaggerated interpretations of what an emcee might say at black soul reviews. Aniton was a truck driver doing his take on a black emcee while under the influence of alcohol and presenting a white band... but it worked a treat. He gave some memorable and hilarious introductions, and even became something of a favorite among fans who relished yet another unexpected quirk of Steely Dan. The first time he introduced them, the band enjoyed it so much they played the opening song better than ever before.

Part of the fun was that Aniton didn't even understand Steely Dan... he actually thought Donald Fagan's name was Stevie Dan. On one occasion, ever unsteady on his feet, Aniton stumbled into Fagan's grand piano on stage and said to one of the other players, "I bumped into Stevie's piano."

His introductions varied nightly from "Stevie Dan" to "Mr. Stevie Dan and Whatever." The more Aniton drank, the more hilarious his introductions became so everyone encouraged him to partake as much as possible. Aniton might go on and do a rambling two-minute-plus introduction replete with expletives while the band members laughed aloud behind him, encouraging him with audible asides. At a gig in Cleveland, Aniton's geography deserted him and he referred to the city as being on the east coast.

--From Steely Dan: Reelin' in the Years by Brian Sweet




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Re: this is THE REAL Steely Dan
Posted by: JoeM
Date: August 29, 2014 03:32PM
There are a number of transcriptions of that intro on the web but all seem to refer to Jerome saying " Santa Monica". I seem to remember that he slurs " Santa Moccata" which is totally hilarious when you hear him doing his thing.



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Re: this is THE REAL Steely Dan
Posted by: decay
Date: August 29, 2014 03:57PM
This is the one I located.





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Re: this is THE REAL Steely Dan
Posted by: bruceko
Date: August 29, 2014 06:48PM
My girl friend years ago made me take her to a Bread concert. Double yuck. The only redemption was the opening act was this new band called Steely Dan

Bread concert poster Seattle



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Re: this is THE REAL Steely Dan
Posted by: hal
Date: August 29, 2014 07:34PM
SHEET!!!

I've been cursing this thread all day... couldn't get 'Hey Nineteen' out of my head, but it's just been replaced with... 'I wanna make it with you...'

AAAAAAAGGGGHHHH!!!
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Re: this is THE REAL Steely Dan
Posted by: JoeM
Date: August 29, 2014 08:07PM
Here's mine:



This was a promo giveaway I had gotten from MCA records in 1982. I had gone to see The Fixx, another MCA act, on their first US tour at The Bottom Line in NYC. I also got a promo 45 of their hit at the time, Stand or Fall at the show along with some otter swag. Record companies still did cool things in those days.

Edit: "otter swag" - curse you auto-correct!



JoeM




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Re: this is THE REAL Steely Dan
Posted by: Black
Date: August 29, 2014 09:15PM
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JoeM
Here's mine:



This was a promo giveaway I had gotten from MCA records in 1982. I had gone to see The Fixx, another MCA act, on their first US tour at The Bottom Line in NYC. I also got a promo 45 of their hit at the time, Stand or Fall at the show along with some otter swag. Record companies still did cool things in those days.

Edit: "otter swag" - curse you auto-correct!

Might I propose a new forum tradition: "Party at JoeM's house!"
I can get time off with about a little more than a week's notice, usually.




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Re: this is THE REAL Steely Dan
Posted by: JoeM
Date: August 30, 2014 08:09AM
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Black
Might I propose a new forum tradition: "Party at JoeM's house!"
I can get time off with about a little more than a week's notice, usually.

Sounds like a plan. Maybe we can sell it to my boss so I can finally get some time off. :-)



JoeM
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Re: this is THE REAL Steely Dan
Posted by: Psurfer
Date: September 02, 2014 05:17PM
GREAT F-ing thread.

Now I wanna hear me that "otter swag" shown above!
[& too bad I'm too late here to start a pirate Dan riff now, Rrrrrrgh...]
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