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History of the Eagles documentary
Posted by: Black
Date: September 03, 2015 12:53PM
[forums.macresource.com]
Watched it in bits and pieces as time allowed. Kind of like not wanting to put down a good book.
Some really great quotes from Henley, interesting insight into the struggle between being a country band and a rock band.... surprisingly candid interviews...no punches pulled on anyone's feelings about Don Felder. If you didn't have a good sense of who he was or what his role in The Eagles was, you certainly do after watching this.
Wish I'd have seen this before I attended the show in 2013.
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Re: History of the Eagles documentary
Posted by: pdq
Date: September 03, 2015 03:01PM
I really enjoyed the show when they came through, and I learned a few things about one of my favorite groups from back in the day.

One thing I was a little surprised at was how geographically diverse the members were; Henley from Texas, Meisner from Nebraska, Frey from Detroit ("where "mother" is only half a word"), Leadon from MN, by way of Cali, Felder from FL, and later Joe Walsh, a midwesterner that finally landed in NYC/NJ.

Other tidbits (which I hope I'm remebering correctly): that Desperado, their quirky, themed second album, was inspired by some gunfighter books that Jackson Browne had. It was, oddly enough, recorded in the UK.
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Re: History of the Eagles documentary
Posted by: JoeM
Date: September 03, 2015 04:20PM
Really want to see it, just don't have time lately. Maybe I will knuckle down this holiday weekend.



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Re: History of the Eagles documentary
Posted by: Black
Date: September 03, 2015 04:29PM
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JoeM
Really want to see it, just don't have time lately. Maybe I will knuckle down this holiday weekend.
First 60% or so (up to the bad breakup) is here:
[vimeo.com]
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Re: History of the Eagles documentary
Posted by: JoeM
Date: September 03, 2015 04:37PM
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JoeM
Really want to see it, just don't have time lately. Maybe I will knuckle down this holiday weekend.
First 60% or so (up to the bad breakup) is here:
[vimeo.com]

Thanks, I think I bookmarked it on Youtube as well.



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Re: History of the Eagles documentary
Posted by: Yoyodyne ArtWorks
Date: September 03, 2015 08:21PM
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pdq
I really enjoyed the show when they came through, and I learned a few things about one of my favorite groups from back in the day.

One thing I was a little surprised at was how geographically diverse the members were; Henley from Texas, Meisner from Nebraska, Frey from Detroit ("where "mother" is only half a word"), Leadon from MN, by way of Cali, Felder from FL, and later Joe Walsh, a midwesterner that finally landed in NYC/NJ.

Other tidbits (which I hope I'm remebering correctly): that Desperado, their quirky, themed second album, was inspired by some gunfighter books that Jackson Browne had. It was, oddly enough, recorded in the UK.

Anyone who likes Desperado should check out the first album by the Chicago-area band Wilderness Road; it was recorded slightly before Desperado and is exceptionally good. Not available on CD, but you can hear all of the songs on YouTube



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Re: History of the Eagles documentary
Posted by: Black
Date: September 03, 2015 08:29PM
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Yoyodyne ArtWorks
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pdq
I really enjoyed the show when they came through, and I learned a few things about one of my favorite groups from back in the day.

One thing I was a little surprised at was how geographically diverse the members were; Henley from Texas, Meisner from Nebraska, Frey from Detroit ("where "mother" is only half a word"), Leadon from MN, by way of Cali, Felder from FL, and later Joe Walsh, a midwesterner that finally landed in NYC/NJ.

Other tidbits (which I hope I'm remebering correctly): that Desperado, their quirky, themed second album, was inspired by some gunfighter books that Jackson Browne had. It was, oddly enough, recorded in the UK.

Anyone who likes Desperado should check out the first album by the Chicago-area band Wilderness Road; it was recorded slightly before Desperado and is exceptionally good. Not available on CD, but you can hear all of the songs on YouTube
Interesting spin on Desperado in the documentary. Framed as a "miss' due to inflexible and near-sighted producer.
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Re: History of the Eagles documentary
Posted by: jawg
Date: September 03, 2015 09:12PM
Here is my take after watching it on YouTube in the past few months.
Fry and Henley have always wanted total control over the band and want any other members to work for THEM (and they get paid a bunch more than the others).
Walsh has been willing to go along with that and has always accepted "employee" status (and less money).
Felder saw himself as an equal shareholder, but was not going to be granted that status by Fry and Henley.
Meisner kind of burned out, but was not allowed to have any R&R and he was just booted out.
Leadon left early on because he decided he didn't want to go as "rock and roll" as the band became.
My opinion of Fry in particular dropped a few notches after watching it for reasons that I can't completely define.
That all being said they have always been one of my favorite bands. I think you will find it hard to find anything that rocks as hard as "Already Gone" done live in Houston in 1976 posted by simpledream07 on YouTube, just WOW!







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Re: History of the Eagles documentary
Posted by: Black
Date: September 03, 2015 09:20PM
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jawg
Here is my take after watching it on YouTube in the past few months.
Fry and Henley have always wanted total control over the band and want any other members to work for THEM (and they get paid a bunch more than the others).
Walsh has been willing to go along with that and has always accepted "employee" status (and less money).
Felder saw himself as an equal shareholder, but was not going to be granted that status by Fry and Henley.
Meisner kind of burned out, but was not allowed to have any R&R and he was just booted out.
Leadon left early on because he decided he didn't want to go as "rock and roll" as the band became.
My opinion of Fry in particular dropped a few notches after watching it for reasons that I can't completely define.
That all being said they have always been one of my favorite bands. I think you will find it hard to find anything that rocks as hard as "Already Gone" done live in Houston in 1976 posted by simpledream07 on YouTube, just WOW!

I have no problem with the case Fry and Henley laid out in the documentary that they were the core of the band, the heavyweight songwriting team, and later the only ones to rack up any sort of accomplishments between 1980 and 1994- and thus deserving of a higher level of decision making and income. Nobody held a gun to the heads of the others forcing them to return to or stay in the band.
I never particularly liked Fry to begin with, so my opinion of him was actually elevated by the doc. I found him refreshingly uncomplicated.



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Re: History of the Eagles documentary
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: September 04, 2015 01:31PM
"groups last longer than they used to...." <pause>



Hurts like a bastid...
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Re: History of the Eagles documentary
Posted by: Black
Date: September 04, 2015 06:48PM
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"groups last longer than they used to...." <pause>

Well, he was referring to the time in the mid-late 60s where there seemed to be a lot of shuffling and reforming going on, e.g. Byrds, Yardbirds, Cream, Buffalo Springfield, etc.
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Re: History of the Eagles documentary
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: September 04, 2015 06:58PM
Frey, people - it's Glenn Frey.



It is what it is.
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Re: History of the Eagles documentary
Posted by: Black
Date: September 05, 2015 08:56AM
Here's a little bit of Felder's reaction to the documentary.
[www.billboard.com]
I guess he thought the main focus of it should have been "acrimony." I think the documentary did a fine job by not focusing on acrimony, but presenting as much of it as necessary to give a reasonably complete picture for 3 hours of film. I think DF does a good job here of confirming the picture that Glen and Don painted of him.....
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Re: History of the Eagles documentary
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: September 05, 2015 12:32PM
Felder's reaction comes across to me as quite reasoned in that piece. Much of what he says is true, in particular the discord between Henley and Frey.



It is what it is.
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Re: History of the Eagles documentary
Posted by: Black
Date: September 05, 2015 12:55PM
Well, it looks like Felder's replacement didn't work out either.
[news.yahoo.com]
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