"The World's Strongest Coffee"

I'm not a coffee drinker, but with a name like Death Wish Coffee, and a picture of skull & crossbones on the package would be two large red flags for me to NOT drink it!

How about you? Would you try/have you tried it?

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I like good coffee. I'd try the stuff to see if its a one timer or two timer coffee.

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Strong=Dark Roast
Starbucks=Burnt Roast
Death=Ash Roast

Oh, i see 3d. Just use it like snuff, eh?

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That old man - he don't think like no old man...
Now I wouldn't want to be within 400 - 500 yards of one of them nuclear bombs when it goes off! WW1 Vet Old Man
"He's pinned under an outcropping of rock. Lucky for him, the rock kept the dirt from burying him alive."
If idiots could fly, this place would be an airport. And I'd be a TSA agent.
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No. Life's too short to waste on kitsch products.

I'd like to try it, but I'm not buying a pound of it. How about if 10 of us MRF's buys a bag and split it?
Who wants to be in charge of Paypal/shipping details?
Person in charge gets to keep the cool bag

I bought decaf robusta espresso beans years ago. Holy crap! I couldn't imagine what full tilt robusta would be like.

I'd try it, but before i would invest in a pound.

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It really sounds like BS.

Besides, if you want more caffeine, just drink more coffee! Extend your enjoyment.

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At a previous job a coworker commented that the coffee I made "could kill a small child". I didn't even consider it strong...

D & C

I can make coffee 10x that strong. Just dump some caffeine powder in my regular coffee, and it would cost about a third as much.

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Starbucks Sumatra is pretty robust. I wonder how much stronger this stuff is. At $20/lb I'll just double the amount of Sumatra I use and get the same buzz. And since my son works at Starbucks, MY coffee is free!

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Starbucks Sumatra is pretty robust. I wonder how much stronger this stuff is. At $20/lb I'll just double the amount of Sumatra I use and get the same buzz. And since my son works at Starbucks, MY coffee is free!

define what you mean by 'robust.' the flavor of the roast is what most people are referring to when they use this word but it does not correlate to caffeine content in the way most people assume. the darker the roast the lesser the caffeine content. Blonde is Starbucks lightest roast; a cup of blonde Veranda has a higher caffeine content than a cup of Sumatra though the Veranda has a considerably blander flavor. hasn't your son explained this to you?

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I can make coffee 10x that strong. Just dump some caffeine powder in my regular coffee, and it would cost about a third as much.

If you ever can get ahold of some, try about 40mg-80mg of modafinil along with good strong coffee. Clearest mind and focus formula I've ever found. I do it about twice a month when I need to write a project or training script I have struggled with.

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Starbucks Sumatra is pretty robust. I wonder how much stronger this stuff is. At $20/lb I'll just double the amount of Sumatra I use and get the same buzz. And since my son works at Starbucks, MY coffee is free!

define what you mean by 'robust.' the flavor of the roast is what most people are referring to when they use this word but it does not correlate to caffeine content in the way most people assume. the darker the roast the lesser the caffeine content. Blonde is Starbucks lightest roast; a cup of blonde Veranda has a higher caffeine content than a cup of Sumatra though the Veranda has a considerably blander flavor. hasn't your son explained this to you?

Sorry, but you're wrong. Caffeine is extremely stable during the roasting process and doesn't get burnt off in roasting.
If you went bean for bean with a light roast versus a dark roast, each would have relatively the same level of caffeine.


And to muddy the waters seen more (LOL), depending on how you measure out your coffee, the caffeine may differ. Since, during roasting, a dark roast may lose up to 95% of it's water content, the darker roast has more beans by volume. So, if you measure by scoops, a light roast WOULD have more caffeine by volume. But, if you measure by weight, the darker roast would have more caffeine by volume.

...and yeah, my son explained all this to me...

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Caffeine is extremely stable during the roasting process and doesn't get burnt off in roasting.
If you went bean for bean with a light roast versus a dark roast, each would have relatively the same level of caffeine.


And to muddy the waters seen more (LOL), depending on how you measure out your coffee, the caffeine may differ. Since, during roasting, a dark roast may lose up to 95% of it's water content, the darker roast has more beans by volume. So, if you measure by scoops, a light roast WOULD have more caffeine by volume. But, if you measure by weight, the darker roast would have more caffeine by volume.
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A common misconception (one I used to think, too) about dark roasts having different amounts of caffeine than unroasted. Here's a good article on it:

[driftaway.coffee]

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Caffeine is extremely stable during the roasting process and doesn't get burnt off in roasting.
If you went bean for bean with a light roast versus a dark roast, each would have relatively the same level of caffeine.


And to muddy the waters seen more (LOL), depending on how you measure out your coffee, the caffeine may differ. Since, during roasting, a dark roast may lose up to 95% of it's water content, the darker roast has more beans by volume. So, if you measure by scoops, a light roast WOULD have more caffeine by volume. But, if you measure by weight, the darker roast would have more caffeine by volume.
.

A common misconception (one I used to think, too) about dark roasts having different amounts of caffeine than unroasted. Here's a good article on it:

[driftaway.coffee]

never said it was burnt off. chemically I don't know or care where it goes. look at the nutrition info at Starbucks.com for the caffeine content of a blonde and a bold roast. in our smaller sizes it's not much really but at 20oz it start to be numerically noticeable. oh and Starbucks does account for the volume/water content differences in the brewing process so I would assume the nutrition analysis does also.

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Caffeine is extremely stable during the roasting process and doesn't get burnt off in roasting.
If you went bean for bean with a light roast versus a dark roast, each would have relatively the same level of caffeine.


And to muddy the waters seen more (LOL), depending on how you measure out your coffee, the caffeine may differ. Since, during roasting, a dark roast may lose up to 95% of it's water content, the darker roast has more beans by volume. So, if you measure by scoops, a light roast WOULD have more caffeine by volume. But, if you measure by weight, the darker roast would have more caffeine by volume.
.

A common misconception (one I used to think, too) about dark roasts having different amounts of caffeine than unroasted. Here's a good article on it:

[driftaway.coffee]

never said it was burnt off. chemically I don't know or care where it goes. look at the nutrition info at Starbucks.com for the caffeine content of a blonde and a bold roast. in our smaller sizes it's not much really but at 20oz it start to be numerically noticeable. oh and Starbucks does account for the volume/water content differences in the brewing process so I would assume the nutrition analysis does also.

Naturally, if you use the same volume of coffee beans to make one cup, the blonde WILL have more caffeine per cup than the dark roast. However, you are not comparing apple to apples in your statement, because bean to bean (or apple to apple), both roasts have the same caffeine content.
By the way, Starbucks doesn't list the caffeine content of their coffee and we're not talking about brewing process here either.

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If you just want caffeine, take a caffeine pill (remember No Doze?).

I like coffee. Have settled on Peets' Sumatra blend. About the tastiest I've found.

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Starbucks doesn't list the caffeine content of their coffee and we're not talking about brewing process here either.

the info isn't on retail bags but is available at Starbucks.com.

Nutrition information - Blonde
short (8oz) 180mg
venti (20oz) 360mg (this number is an error as it's also the content listed for the 16oz grande size. to be mathematically consistent with the content listed on the other sizes it should be 450mg. still, we'll go with 360mg)

Nutrition Information - Dark Roast
short (8oz) 130mg
venti (20oz) 340mg

bean to bean the caffeine content difference is negligible but start making those larger cuppas and it begins to add up. i referenced the nutrition analysis and brewing content because when we prepare brewed coffee we actually use a different scoop to measure the blonde roast to compensate the volume difference between blonde and darker roasts; the analysis probably accounts for this also so it is more of an apples to apples comparison.

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Naturally, if you use the same volume of coffee beans to make one cup, the blonde WILL have more caffeine per cup than the dark roast.

I never weigh coffee. I usually don't measure it at all. Just dump what I think is enough in the basket.

Enough already. It's just effing coffee, not the theory of relativity.
We can all agree that we all like strong, highly caffeinated coffee; at least the members who have contributed to this thread.

Move along now, there's nothing left here to see...

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richorlin
Starbucks doesn't list the caffeine content of their coffee and we're not talking about brewing process here either.

the info isn't on retail bags but is available at Starbucks.com.

Nutrition information - Blonde
short (8oz) 180mg
venti (20oz) 360mg (this number is an error as it's also the content listed for the 16oz grande size. to be mathematically consistent with the content listed on the other sizes it should be 450mg. still, we'll go with 360mg)

Nutrition Information - Dark Roast
short (8oz) 130mg
venti (20oz) 340mg

bean to bean the caffeine content difference is negligible but start making those larger cuppas and it begins to add up. i referenced the nutrition analysis and brewing content because when we prepare brewed coffee we actually use a different scoop to measure the blonde roast to compensate the volume difference between blonde and darker roasts; the analysis probably accounts for this also so it is more of an apples to apples comparison.

I've read that what Starbucks calls a Blonde roast infuriates coffee purists because it's actually a mild roast and not a real Blonde. Still my favorite of the Starbuck roasts to buy for home though (the non flavored one-- Veranda?)
Can you explain what you mean by "volume difference?" I don't quite get it.

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I've read that what Starbucks calls a Blonde roast infuriates coffee purists because it's actually a mild roast and not a real Blonde. Still my favorite of the Starbuck roasts to buy for home though (the non flavored one-- Veranda?)
Can you explain what you mean by "volume difference?" I don't quite get it.

next time you're in Starbucks compare a 1 pound bag of Veranda to a 1 pound bag of French Roast. you'll see the veranda bag looks smaller and not quite full while the French Roast will stand taller and be practically busting at the seems. assuming what Richolin said about the moisture loss in roasting is correct, it takes more physical beans of a dark roast than a blonde to make 1 pound in weight. in store we use scoops (volume not weight method) to measure for brewed coffee. Starbucks gave us a special, smaller scoop for blonde when it was introduced in order to maintain the corporate desired coffee to water ratio.

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