When Ducati started building bikes for the masses ... a friend of mine said, after we'd seen the 749 and other Albatrosses of Doom "Hey, it's no longer just ours any more."

I think this is the new way I will think about Apple.

Unfortunately, I kind of feel that way too.

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Like my wife just said, "everything seems to be about the iPhone now like nothing else from Apple matters".

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If only we could just convince them to spin off Macs into a separate company...
Or to license Hackintosh.
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We need to go back to the good ol' days of Steve promising us 3GHz PPC chips next year.

Agreed. I'm still getting good mileage out of my Early 2008 MacPro. When that dies ...

I don't know

But, 'appliance' Macs are not my ideal choice.

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We need to go back to the good ol' days of Steve promising us 3GHz PPC chips next year.

LOL, so true!

I was just thinking that at this point, it would actually make quite a bit of sense for Apple to license MacOS to someone like Dell, or HP. They're making money, but they're not gaining any ground off of Macs. It's a declining market. Why not steal some thunder from Microsoft and expand the market?

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Agreed. I'm still getting good mileage out of my Early 2008 MacPro. When that dies ...

I don't know

But, 'appliance' Macs are not my ideal choice.

Your future lies here, raz:

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I was just thinking that at this point, it would actually make quite a bit of sense for Apple to license MacOS to someone like Dell, or HP. They're making money, but they're not gaining any ground off of Macs. It's a declining market. Why not steal some thunder from Microsoft and expand the market?

Macs have an ENORMOUS profit margin. Apple will keep making them until we stop buying them and they won't just hand that moeny to the competition by licensing the OS.

Now spinning the Mac division off might be interesting...

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Yeah. It's a smarphone company now, and I've never had a smartphone and I hope I never will.

Not sure why. Having an iPhone has vastly improved my working life, among other things. I would really, really hate to have to go back to a "dumb" phone.

I listen to the Security Now podcast with Steve Gibson. He decided to build the biggest/fastest computer he could and run windows 7 on it. He calls it his "last computer" as he anticipates it lasting him until he doesn't need a real computer anymore. I'm not as old as Steve but I've had that in the back of my mind. At some point I'll just "lock in" and stay with whatever the current tech is. If Apple could fix a few things with OS X I'd almost be happy to do that.

I have been paying attention to linux more though. If I can't continue with Apple that's where I will go but I'm not seeing comparable apps on that platform though. I would like to see the return of the iLife concept. Most of us need a core set of apps. It would love to see apps continue to improve and evolve essentially forever rather than starting all over periodically or abandoning perfectly good software.

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When Ducati started building bikes for the masses ... a friend of mine said, after we'd seen the 749 and other Albatrosses of Doom "Hey, it's no longer just ours any more."

I think this is the new way I will think about Apple.

That writing was on the wall years ago.

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When Ducati started building bikes for the masses ... a friend of mine said, after we'd seen the 749 and other Albatrosses of Doom "Hey, it's no longer just ours any more."

I think this is the new way I will think about Apple.

That writing was on the wall years ago.

Yeah, they are what they are now. At least they still make Macs. I guess that's still something. All soldered and sealed up and all.

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...All soldered and sealed up and all.

I don't want to do much but be able to add RAM and change drives out. That's all. Canno' even do that now on MacBooks.

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Yeah. It's a smarphone company now, and I've never had a smartphone and I hope I never will.

Not sure why. Having an iPhone has vastly improved my working life, among other things. I would really, really hate to have to go back to a "dumb" phone.

Ah, you assume if I don’t have a smartphone I must have a dumb phone. Nope.

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Agreed. I'm still getting good mileage out of my Early 2008 MacPro. When that dies ...

I don't know

But, 'appliance' Macs are not my ideal choice.

I'm with you. It's getting close to upgrade time, but Apple sells nothing I aspire to own. Nothing I really want. I'm tempted, even, to load this thing with more RAM, and SSD, a video card, and just keep using it.

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Mebbe they should hire a professional Commander in Chief, to Make Apple Great Again.

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You can't stay with old tech and remain online-safe and/or compatible with some new thing you may want. Always been that way.

I realize that. I may be tempted to stay with this machine which has been absolutely wonderful, but I almost certainly won't. Instead I will reluctantly spend my money on a new machine that is less good in many ways, and borderline disposable.

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Yeah. It's a smarphone company now, and I've never had a smartphone and I hope I never will.

Not sure why. Having an iPhone has vastly improved my working life, among other things. I would really, really hate to have to go back to a "dumb" phone.

Ah, you assume if I don’t have a smartphone I must have a dumb phone. Nope.

My previous phone was dumb. I have no clue what you use, but would be interested in knowing what it is and why you don't want a smartphone.

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"Linux just keeps looking better and better compared to the clown car circus of Microsoft/Apple with a little Google thrown in."

Maybe in another 10 years. Right now Linux isn't compatible with most major software suites, it doesn't support the majority of popular games, it isn't particularly user friendly and still requires a lot of command line work to do things that have GUI in other OSs. Honestly, I'm not sure exactly why people think it is making any headway. Other than some distros have skins that make it look nicer not much has changed in Linux in 10 years.

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Suppose I should add my 2¢ to this thread, first off perhaps the many complaints are overlooking that us old hands that continually bemoan the new directions of the company (I used to be of the most vocal) are no longer the target group Apple is designing for? Tough to accept but reading the gripes and thinking of my own resistance to changes I am beginning to realize that many of us are old hands and were very geeky in our own realms and Apple filled our needs very well. Like others have said not sure what I will do when my old MacPro 2008 gives up the ghost or is rendered obsolete by perhaps the next OS X or whatever they call it, not likely to go to windows, however I could see myself just changing over completely to my iPhone 6+ and forgo replacing the MacPro and using my Macbook Pro. Frankly the more comfortable I become with the iPhone the less need I have for a industrial strength Mac Pro.

In addition the many @#$%& about some of the questionable changes made by Johnny Ives there again I bitch and scream but as time goes on I find the visuals in the GUI are bland but they do actually work just fine once I overcome my initial unfamiliarity with the changes. So I guess all I am saying is as a company they seem to think their future is with the iPhone and as much as I hate to admit it they may very well be absolutely correct, only time will tell. As a long time investor however I will confess I have ridden the wave all the way up from $12.50 a share to the recent highs of $134 and now on the advice of Vanguard I am getting out while the getting is good. The iPhone has been a fantastic success but with so much of their stake in the exclusive phone market I could be disastrous if they have a big miss in that line and even Apple can miss occasionally. Don't have the nerve to ride their stock any further at my age, going to diversify and let a financial advisor manage a conservative portfolio and sleep good at night.

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Yeah. It's a smarphone company now, and I've never had a smartphone and I hope I never will.

Not sure why. Having an iPhone has vastly improved my working life, among other things. I would really, really hate to have to go back to a "dumb" phone.

Ah, you assume if I don’t have a smartphone I must have a dumb phone. Nope.

My previous phone was dumb. I have no clue what you use, but would be interested in knowing what it is and why you don't want a smartphone.

I have two devices. One is an iPod Touch. The other is a landline.

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Yeah. It's a smarphone company now, and I've never had a smartphone and I hope I never will.

Not sure why. Having an iPhone has vastly improved my working life, among other things. I would really, really hate to have to go back to a "dumb" phone.

Ah, you assume if I don’t have a smartphone I must have a dumb phone. Nope.

My previous phone was dumb. I have no clue what you use, but would be interested in knowing what it is and why you don't want a smartphone.

I have two devices. One is an iPod Touch. The other is a landline.

So you don't even have cell service.

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The 749? Really?

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You can't stay with old tech and remain online-safe and/or compatible with some new thing you may want. Always been that way.

Perhaps. But Firefox/Chrome will support Maverics for quite a while longer. I might even move on to Yosemite or EC eventually. I already have Snow Leopard in a VirtualBox for some very old PPC code.

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