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Sit down, boys. I'm getting Windows 10...
Posted by: GuyGene
Date: November 09, 2016 11:48AM
smiley-shocked003 barf smiley

Yes, that'd be me. Old GuyGene, first known as LaserKun here, the one who has only bought Macs. Now, I AM NOT getting a Windows computer mind you, just Windows 10 OS. I own '98 and I think XP (canno' find CD), but I just got an email from an entity I work with for one of my non profit NGOs that will let me get Windows 10 for $15.00. What's to lose? RollingEyesSmiley5

So, a question or two:

1. Can I install it on a USB drive and use it as a startup disk under BootCamp on my Retina MacBook Pro? Or do I have to partition drive to run it?

2. That's all.

I'm going to download it now... The reason I'm getting it is price, of course, plus, some of my work involves helping people in our organization with computer issues, Mac and Windows. So having it will help me in that work.

Ok boys, here I go, diving in headfirst!



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Re: Sit down, boys. I'm getting Windows 10...
Posted by: Article Accelerator
Date: November 09, 2016 12:13PM
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GuyGene
1. Can I install it on a USB drive and use it as a startup disk under BootCamp on my Retina MacBook Pro?

No.

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Or do I have to partition drive to run it?

Yes.
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Re: Sit down, boys. I'm getting Windows 10...
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: November 09, 2016 12:14PM
....got 10 new windows for my house too....



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Re: Sit down, boys. I'm getting Windows 10...
Posted by: ka jowct
Date: November 09, 2016 12:19PM
I tried to get it when it was free, and just couldn't get the installer to complete the upgrade.
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Re: Sit down, boys. I'm getting Windows 10...
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: November 09, 2016 12:23PM
Need more info. The hardware and the OS needs to be new enough to run Win10 in Boot Camp. What do you want to do with Win10?



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Re: Sit down, boys. I'm getting Windows 10...
Posted by: mrlynn
Date: November 09, 2016 01:11PM
Get a copy of Parallels or Fusion, and you can run Windoze on your Mac.

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Re: Sit down, boys. I'm getting Windows 10...
Posted by: Forrest
Date: November 09, 2016 01:19PM
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mrlynn
Get a copy of Parallels or Fusion, and you can run Windoze on your Mac.

/Mr Lynn
Or the free virtualbox
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Re: Sit down, boys. I'm getting Windows 10...
Posted by: DP
Date: November 09, 2016 04:14PM
I'd like a 17" laptop and, while I know they don't sell, I'd have probably have bought a 17" if Apple still made them.
Just got an email from Costco offering an HP Envy with an i7, 16GB RAM, 2TB HD, SuperMulti DVD Burner, Wireless-AC + Bluetooth, Bang & Olufsen Audio (?), all for $800. If I were going buy a 17" laptop I'd be seriously looking at something like this... When was the last 17" Apple made?





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Re: Sit down, boys. I'm getting Windows 10...
Posted by: testcase
Date: November 09, 2016 07:44PM
Apple killed the 17" MBP in late June, 2012 (it's referred to as the "Late 2011" model). I ordered mine the next day and, it was delivered on July 1st, 2012. I immediately upgraded to 16 GB of RAM. A year or so later, I installed a 1TB SSD. I'll keep it running as long as I can and then, if Apple still is not making big screen laptops, I'll buy a high end, big screen Windows laptop and switch it to Linux.
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Re: Sit down, boys. I'm getting Windows 10...
Posted by: Racer X
Date: November 09, 2016 08:01PM
Turn off blue tooth immediately, and keep all cell phones FAR away until you get Win10 locked down. It sucked every bit of data off my partner's Windows phone, and populated her new work laptop with all her personal data. Thanks M$!

Never gave her the option, or asked if it was OK. Just did it.
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Re: Sit down, boys. I'm getting Windows 10...
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: November 09, 2016 08:13PM
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Racer X
It sucked every bit of data off my partner's Windows phone, and populated her new work laptop with all her personal data.

Windows phone is the key. Statistically I think there might be _one_ other user here with a Windows phone. Without looking it up, my guess is the laptop should only do this if it identified the phone as being under the same user after she logged in to the laptop.



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Re: Sit down, boys. I'm getting Windows 10...
Posted by: Racer X
Date: November 09, 2016 08:27PM
Still, IT NEVER ASKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Sit down, boys. I'm getting Windows 10...
Posted by: S. Pupp
Date: November 09, 2016 08:28PM
Per Apple, the following Macs are compatible with Windows 10. My MacBook Pro late-2008 is not compatible, and it would not install ("Your hardware is incompatible" error).

From apple.com

MacBook Pro
MacBook Pro (15-inch, Late 2016)
MacBook Pro (13-inch, Late 2016, Four Thunderbolt 3 Ports)
MacBook Pro (13-inch, Late 2016, Two Thunderbolt 3 Ports)
MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Mid 2015)
MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Early 2015)
MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Mid 2014)
MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Mid 2014)
MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Late 2013)
MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Late 2013)
MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Early 2013)
MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Early 2013)
MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Late 2012)
MacBook Pro (Retina, Mid 2012)
MacBook Pro (13-inch, Mid 2012)
MacBook Pro (15-inch, Mid 2012)
MacBook Air
MacBook Air (13-inch, Early 2015)
MacBook Air (11-inch, Early 2015)
MacBook Air (13-inch, Early 2014)
MacBook Air (11-inch, Early 2014)
MacBook Air (13-inch, Mid 2013)
MacBook Air (11-inch, Mid 2013)
MacBook Air (13-inch, Mid 2012)
MacBook Air (11-inch, Mid 2012)
MacBook
MacBook (Retina, 12-inch, Early 2016)
MacBook (Retina, 12-inch, Early 2015)
iMac
iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, Late 2015)
iMac (Retina 4K, 21.5-inch, Late 2015)
iMac (21.5-inch, Late 2015)
iMac (Retina 5k, 27-inch, Mid 2015)
iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, Late 2014)
iMac (21.5-inch, Mid 2014)
iMac (27-inch, Late 2013)
iMac (21.5-inch, Late 2013)
iMac (27-inch, Late 2012)
iMac (21.5-inch, Late 2012)
Mac mini
Mac mini (Late 2014)
Mac mini Server (Late 2012)
Mac mini (Late 2012)
Mac Pro
Mac Pro (Late 2013)
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Re: Sit down, boys. I'm getting Windows 10...
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: November 09, 2016 10:00PM
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S. Pupp
Per Apple, the following Macs are compatible with Windows 10. My MacBook Pro late-2008 is not compatible, and it would not install ("Your hardware is incompatible" error).

From apple.com

MacBook Pro
...
Mac Pro
Mac Pro (Late 2013)

That is under Boot Camp. IIRC, any MacPro4,1 or later, MacBookPro6,1 or later, should be able to boot from a properly configured Win10 external drive.



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Re: Sit down, boys. I'm getting Windows 10...
Posted by: bazookaman
Date: November 10, 2016 07:18AM
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DP
I'd like a 17" laptop and, while I know they don't sell, I'd have probably have bought a 17" if Apple still made them.
Just got an email from Costco offering an HP Envy with an i7, 16GB RAM, 2TB HD, SuperMulti DVD Burner, Wireless-AC + Bluetooth, Bang & Olufsen Audio (?), all for $800. If I were going buy a 17" laptop I'd be seriously looking at something like this... When was the last 17" Apple made?

You want a 17" laptop? How about this monster...
[www.razerzone.com]

Loaded up, it's a couple hundred more than Apple's top-o-the-line. But it does have the 17 inch touchscreen. More ram. More VRAM. More ports. Blah blah blah.

Sorry. It's neither thinner nor lighter.







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Re: Sit down, boys. I'm getting Windows 10...
Posted by: mrlynn
Date: November 10, 2016 09:25AM
Well, that Razer monster weighs less than the Mac SE I used to take back and forth from here to Maryland in the '80s. I still have the custom carrying bag in the attic.

/Mr Lynn
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Re: Sit down, boys. I'm getting Windows 10...
Posted by: bazookaman
Date: November 10, 2016 10:02AM
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mrlynn
Well, that Razer monster weighs less than the Mac SE I used to take back and forth from here to Maryland in the '80s. I still have the custom carrying bag in the attic.

/Mr Lynn
Almost double the weight of a new MacBook Pro. But again. You're getting a 17 inch screen.



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Re: Sit down, boys. I'm getting Windows 10...
Posted by: GuyGene
Date: November 10, 2016 01:37PM
Boys, boys (you listening Fill?), read my post again. Me MacBook Pro will run it and I'm not buying nary software to do it. Bootcamp works good. No need to switch back and forth. But, dagnabbedit, M$ is making it mighty hard to get it. Have to jump, dig, otherwise just suffer to even get the mess 10.angry villagers smiley



That old man - he don't think like no old man...
Now I wouldn't want to be within 400 - 500 yards of one of them nuclear bombs when it goes off! WW1 Vet Old Man
"He's pinned under an outcropping of rock. Lucky for him, the rock kept the dirt from burying him alive."
If idiots could fly, this place would be an airport. And I'd be a TSA agent.
A bonified member of The Mystic Knights of The Sea, George P. Stevens, President. Andy Brown, Treasurer, Algonquin J. Calhoun, Legal Consultant.
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Re: Sit down, boys. I'm getting Windows 10...
Posted by: vision63
Date: November 11, 2016 10:31AM
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Racer X
Still, IT NEVER ASKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But it's still pretty cool that it executed it well.
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Re: Sit down, boys. I'm getting Windows 10...
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: November 11, 2016 04:14PM
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GuyGene
Boys, boys (you listening Fill?), read my post again. Me MacBook Pro will run it and I'm not buying nary software to do it. Bootcamp works good. No need to switch back and forth. But, dagnabbedit, M$ is making it mighty hard to get it. Have to jump, dig, otherwise just suffer to even get the mess 10.

My reply was to the excessively truncated Apple list of hardware that S. Pupp listed. Apple is well known to abandon support of old hardware that runs software just fine if people are willing to put up with slower performance.



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