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ATTN: Wagon Aficionados
Posted by: SteveO
Date: December 07, 2016 01:20AM
New GM wagon may be coming here as a Buick, pretty sweet ride:

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Re: ATTN: Wagon Aficionados
Posted by: Racer X
Date: December 07, 2016 01:34AM
I'm astounded by the power they are getting out of a 2 liter 4 banger. Too bad they can't do that with an 8 liter alloy V-8. Now THAT would be fun.

One of the reasons GM is so fond of Buick, is that marque is the strongest seller in China, especially with the growing middle class market. Pontiac and Olds didn't make the cut.
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Re: ATTN: Wagon Aficionados
Posted by: jdc
Date: December 07, 2016 02:56AM
Looks like the new Volvo wagon, which they ruined with the slant back -- removing a trademark of volvo wagons for decades -- and useable cargo space

We owned both an XC90 and XC70 (both 2005 models) and they were OK cars. The 90 was head and shoulders better than the 70 in every way, even tho they cost about the same new.

Ours looked identical to this




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Re: ATTN: Wagon Aficionados
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: December 07, 2016 05:21AM
Looks like a wagonized Hyundai Sonata

Buick Regal


Hyundai Sonata



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Re: ATTN: Wagon Aficionados
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: December 07, 2016 08:31AM
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Racer X
One of the reasons GM is so fond of Buick, is that marque is the strongest seller in China, especially with the growing middle class market. Pontiac and Olds didn't make the cut.

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jdc
Looks like the new Volvo wagon, which they ruined with the slant back -- removing a trademark of volvo wagons for decades -- and useable cargo space

For the record, Volvo cars IS a Chinese company; has been since 2010.
"It is the largest overseas acquisition by a Chinese automaker."

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Re: ATTN: Wagon Aficionados
Posted by: modelamac
Date: December 07, 2016 08:44AM
It is only useful to me if it is a 3-seater. Nice design, but pretty does not equal practical.


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Re: ATTN: Wagon Aficionados
Posted by: Speedy
Date: December 07, 2016 08:57AM
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modelamac
It is only useful to me if it is a 3-seater. Nice design, but pretty does not equal practical.

Maybe a Chrysler Pacifica? 36 miles electric-only range before the gas motor is needed.

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Re: ATTN: Wagon Aficionados
Posted by: billb
Date: December 07, 2016 09:01AM
That's a station wagon like El Camino was a truck.


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Re: ATTN: Wagon Aficionados
Posted by: jdc
Date: December 07, 2016 09:30AM
Sonata lost that look 2 years ago.


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Re: ATTN: Wagon Aficionados
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: December 07, 2016 10:22AM
The station wagon lost out to the minivan. Now the minivan is losing out to the SUV. Most of these 'station wagons' are really just sedans with a hatchback.
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Re: ATTN: Wagon Aficionados
Posted by: tahoedrew
Date: December 07, 2016 10:59AM
Ugh, that thing is ugly!

Thankfully, station wagons have not "lost" to anything becasue the engineering capability now exists for these things to eek out as much performance as a sedan!

THIS is a proper station wagon:

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Re: ATTN: Wagon Aficionados
Posted by: mikebw
Date: December 07, 2016 11:06AM
-1
Rear cargo space not big enough.
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Re: ATTN: Wagon Aficionados
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: December 07, 2016 11:30AM
R63 AMG, except that the engines had a couple of major flaws.



BMW ALPINA B3 with all wheel drive is another very nice wagon.




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Re: ATTN: Wagon Aficionados
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: December 07, 2016 11:36AM
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tahoedrew
Ugh, that thing is ugly!

Thankfully, station wagons have not "lost" to anything becasue the engineering capability now exists for these things to eek out as much performance as a sedan!

THIS is a proper station wagon:...

Pfft.. that's an "Estate Car". Now THIS.. this is a Station Wagon. You know, where you can fight with your siblings in the back seats ? And look up at the sky as Dad drives you to Wally World ?

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Re: ATTN: Wagon Aficionados
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: December 07, 2016 11:47AM
Nah, this is a station wagon...

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Re: ATTN: Wagon Aficionados
Posted by: archipirata
Date: December 07, 2016 11:54AM


Caption?


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Re: ATTN: Wagon Aficionados
Posted by: Rick-o
Date: December 07, 2016 01:33PM
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archipirata


Caption?

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Re: ATTN: Wagon Aficionados
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: December 07, 2016 02:25PM
....what happens when one.....falls of......the Wagon..............???


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Re: ATTN: Wagon Aficionados
Posted by: Z
Date: December 07, 2016 03:10PM
Wagon:

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Re: ATTN: Wagon Aficionados
Posted by: Lew Zealand
Date: December 07, 2016 04:39PM
How many of you are driving these wonderful machines? My ride is at far left (pic from ~1991):

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Re: ATTN: Wagon Aficionados
Posted by: mikebw
Date: December 07, 2016 05:06PM
Letting mine go is still one of the saddest days I have ever experienced.



(not my picture, but mine was just like this except in silver/gray)

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Re: ATTN: Wagon Aficionados
Posted by: A-Polly
Date: December 07, 2016 06:00PM
Still got mine! Looks like this, but with different wheels:
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Re: ATTN: Wagon Aficionados
Posted by: max
Date: December 07, 2016 10:55PM
Nah, THIS is the real station wagon....

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Re: ATTN: Wagon Aficionados
Posted by: jdc
Date: December 07, 2016 11:32PM
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max
Nah, THIS is the real station wagon....


I can agree with that. It basically a giant 70's wagon as a SUV. TONS of room in the back of those things.

Start at $50K tho. And add anything and its basically $60K. Easily $70K with some extras.

Of course, the same thing in GMC Yukon is $20 K more -- and a fully loaded Escalade can come close to $100K.

For a chevy.


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Re: ATTN: Wagon Aficionados
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: December 08, 2016 06:39AM
this was mine, for a while. 4 speed stick on the floor, with granny gear.

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Re: ATTN: Wagon Aficionados
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: December 08, 2016 06:41AM
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Lew Zealand
How many of you are driving these wonderful machines? My ride is at far left (pic from ~1991):


very close! mine is a 1996 965.





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Re: ATTN: Wagon Aficionados
Posted by: Speedy
Date: December 08, 2016 09:09AM
My daily driver (when my wife drives her Volt) is a 2004 Passat Diesel wagon with less than a 100k miles. I will keep it until one of us dies and likely I will kick off before the Diesel.


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Re: ATTN: Wagon Aficionados
Posted by: Lew Zealand
Date: December 09, 2016 06:19PM
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mrbigstuff
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Lew Zealand
How many of you are driving these wonderful machines? My ride is at far left (pic from ~1991):


very close! mine is a 1996 965.


And that's the one I'd *love* to replace mine with, the last of the rear wheel drive Volvos. The only downside IMO is no manual tranny option. Though the manual is what makes one of my vintage (1983) still fun to drive and the 965 has enough grunt not to need one. Mrs. Zealand and the kids all prefer to drive/ride in my car though that's also probably because they don't get the opportunity to nearly as often as the Odyssey.
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Re: ATTN: Wagon Aficionados
Posted by: Surfrider
Date: December 10, 2016 01:27PM
I love wagons and have three, two Volvo's and a %% Chevy. I don't understand slanting the rear posts forward on the new wagons, they're doing it for looks, but they are limiting the usable space inside...kind of defeats the whole "wagon" idea.
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