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Why does Disney/Pixar hate me?
Posted by: deckeda
Date: December 14, 2006 01:26PM
Dear Mr. Jobs,

All I wanna do --- honest @#$%& --- is make a BACKUP copy before my kid scratches the SECOND "Cars". I beseech you, does buying two of the silly DVDs entitle me to a lousy rip without your so-called "bad sectors?"

Anon
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Re: Why does Disney/Pixar hate me?
Posted by: blusubaru
Date: December 14, 2006 01:29PM
Yup, but you may have to use a PC to do it.
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Re: Why does Disney/Pixar hate me?
Posted by: deckeda
Date: December 14, 2006 01:36PM
Dang. And up until now MTR has been infallible.
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Re: Why does Disney/Pixar hate me?
Posted by: MacArtist
Date: December 14, 2006 01:38PM
I am going to be in the same situation as deckeda.

I always try to burn a copy of a new DVD so they can abuse the hell out of the copy and I keep the original in mint condition.

I suppose this method doesn't fall under "Fair Use"?


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Re: Why does Disney/Pixar hate me?
Posted by: pRON aHOLIC
Date: December 14, 2006 01:50PM
As a stock holder I say buy as many Cars DVD as possible winking smiley


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Re: Why does Disney/Pixar hate me?
Posted by: macphanatic
Date: December 14, 2006 02:03PM
On a PC use DVDFab Platinum.
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Re: Why does Disney/Pixar hate me?
Posted by: OWC Jamie
Date: December 14, 2006 02:18PM
You tried extracting just the feature? I was able to rip it the day it came out, right onto my iPod. Just the movie though - not a full disc copy.


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Re: Why does Disney/Pixar hate me?
Posted by: SteveJobs
Date: December 14, 2006 02:29PM
that is why I am an advocate of the HD DVDs having a case/shutter permanently on the DVDs. So damage, esp with rentals, will be eliminated. Think sony 3.5" floppy 'case'


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Re: Why does Disney/Pixar hate me?
Posted by: M A V I C
Date: December 14, 2006 02:57PM
Making a copy for the said reasons is certainly Fair Use. What needs to change about this is Fare Use is just as much of a legal requirement as the rest of the DMCA which the big corps use to strong arm consumers. But the average joe doesn't have the funds to sue big companies over it. I wonder how long it will be before there's a class-action suit over it.

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that is why I am an advocate of the HD DVDs having a case/shutter permanently on the DVDs. So damage, esp with rentals, will be eliminated. Think sony 3.5" floppy 'case'

That wouldn't really eliminate the reasons for making a copy, especially with children around. Kids would still find a way to damage it, or lose it.



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Re: Why does Disney/Pixar hate me?
Posted by: Zoidberg
Date: December 14, 2006 02:59PM
I'm 100% with SteveJobs on this one.

Bit of lore; this was actually planned with the CD ages ago. They nixed it for two reasons; (a) cost of producing the units and (b) planned obsolecense -- why give the buyers something they'd never ever need to replace?


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Re: Why does Disney/Pixar hate me?
Posted by: Zoidberg
Date: December 14, 2006 03:01PM
And FWIW, I have three kids; I must be lucky in that over the years I've had maybe three discs get scratched and become unplayable. They're really good with them.


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Re: Why does Disney/Pixar hate me?
Posted by: MEG
Date: December 14, 2006 03:03PM
I was able to do a full disk copy using MTR. Is this something to CDs where some would have protection and others didn't? Or could it be the DVD drive?

What I would like to be able to do, however, is buy a f**king Winnie the Pooh disc for my 2-year old. Apparently, Disney doesn't want to sell these to kids born in the year of the Monkey. Guess I'll just have to rent and rip. Yeah, the "vault" is a good idea for business...

ps - I guess what I'm trying to say is Pixar doesn't hate you, Disney does smiling smiley



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/14/2006 03:04PM by MEG.
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Re: Why does Disney/Pixar hate me?
Posted by: Zoidberg
Date: December 14, 2006 03:33PM
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Pixar doesn't hate you, Disney does.

The forum is full of good quotes today.


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Re: Why does Disney/Pixar hate me?
Posted by: deckeda
Date: December 14, 2006 04:23PM
Just read about ARccOS copy-protection. Score one for reading the directions. Hopefully that's the key.

MTR directions say to " ... Choose 'Delete' [i.e., the VOB] if you are doing a Movie Only compression afterwards using DVD2OneX or Popcorn, and choose 'Pad' if you are doing a Full Disc. "

So I guess I have some experimenting to do. I guess the assumption is to choose one of the two ARccOS modes when ripping when you know it's copy-protected?



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Re: Why does Disney/Pixar hate me?
Posted by: Racer X
Date: December 14, 2006 05:44PM
you must be using the old 2.6.6 version. The 3.0r13 beta works better.
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Re: Why does Disney/Pixar hate me?
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: December 14, 2006 08:31PM
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MEG

What I would like to be able to do, however, is buy a f**king Winnie the Pooh disc for my 2-year old.

thanks, man. i needed that. lol! reminded me of Chevy Chase in some of the Vacation films... ;
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Re: Why does Disney/Pixar hate me?
Posted by: mikebw
Date: December 14, 2006 11:20PM
Ah the CD caddy, we remember you now-
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Re: Why does Disney/Pixar hate me?
Posted by: Carm
Date: December 15, 2006 12:06AM
Hey mikebw, I actually still have that drive in my garage. Along with one of hose CD Caddies. Didnt the DVD RAM disk Apple first shipped also come in a Caddy?

deckeda, what version of MTR do you have?

Carm
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Re: Why does Disney/Pixar hate me?
Posted by: Carm
Date: December 15, 2006 12:12AM
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MEG
What I would like to be able to do, however, is buy a f**king Winnie the Pooh disc for my 2-year old. Apparently, Disney doesn't want to sell these to kids born in the year of the Monkey. Guess I'll just have to rent and rip. Yeah, the "vault" is a good idea for business...

Disney does release them in "limited editions" and charge you $29.99 or more, because they can. grinning smiley. If they sold them all the time, the price would fall to ridiculous levels. They have to limit the quantities in the market to be able to screw you when they do decide to release them.


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Re: Why does Disney/Pixar hate me?
Posted by: mikebw
Date: December 15, 2006 02:04AM
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that DVD-RAM utilizes the caddy, but I've never owned one myself. CD's and DVD's certainly are more sexy without one though, probably helped with adoption rates when they stopped using caddies.
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Re: Why does Disney/Pixar hate me?
Posted by: deckeda
Date: December 15, 2006 03:43AM
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Racer X
you must be using the old 2.6.6 version. The 3.0r13 beta works better.

2.6.6

Found a copy of v.3; don't know if it's 3.0r13. Doesn't run past the initial screen.
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Re: Why does Disney/Pixar hate me?
Posted by: deckeda
Date: December 15, 2006 06:51PM
Update --- just because posting is free.

Doesn't crash at launch if there's no DVD in the drive ...

Doesn't crash if Prescan is unselected ...

Doesn't crash if ripping the whole disk instead of main feature ...

But doing all of the above netted me a copy, via Toast 7, of Finding Nemo. So that bodes well for Cars hopefully.
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