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I just spent about 20 mins opening a bottle of wine! Why?
Posted by: Psurfer
Date: December 28, 2006 07:22PM
1. I first put in a traditional corkscrew, and couldn't pull it out for the life of me. Finally, the steel corkscrew broke off from its wooden handle.
2. Inserted air-pump style needle opener through a different part of the cork. Would not budge it. I then removed the screw from the cork w/a pair of locking pliers.
3. Went at it w/another corkscrew, similar to #1. This one finally gave up the ghost by pulling itself out of its wooden handle.
4. With the upper straight part of screw #2 still protruding from the cork, I clamped said shank in a shop vice, and w/the bottle upright (hanging beneath the vice jaws), used all my weight to force the neck of the bottle down. No luck.
5. Finally, against my creed, pushed the cork into the bottle.

Why was this so hard? I had the bottle chilled in the fridge beforehand, a very cheap Chardonnay I intended to cook with, Crane Lake.
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Re: I just spent about 20 mins opening a bottle of wine! Why?
Posted by: Racer X
Date: December 28, 2006 07:24PM
I would have used a sturdy corkscrew from the beginning, and it if failed, pounded the frickin' cork inside right off the bat.
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Re: I just spent about 20 mins opening a bottle of wine! Why?
Posted by: DavidS
Date: December 28, 2006 07:25PM
Yikes. I hope your meal was good and didn't taste too much like cork or corkscrew for that matter.
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Re: I just spent about 20 mins opening a bottle of wine! Why?
Posted by: Carm
Date: December 28, 2006 07:28PM
LOL. I would have done the same as Racer X

Carm
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Re: I just spent about 20 mins opening a bottle of wine! Why?
Posted by: vicrock
Date: December 28, 2006 07:29PM
Secret for a recalcitrant cork is to run the outside of the neck of the bottle under very hot tap water - also use a good waiter's lever corkscrew, or a "rabbit" type.
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Re: I just spent about 20 mins opening a bottle of wine! Why?
Posted by: Racer X
Date: December 28, 2006 07:38PM
I have one like this. very cheap from the grocery store. The only trouble I ever had with it was the screw unscrewed from the top part. I cleaned it with brake cleaner and put on some Loctite stud lock and it has been fine ever since

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Re: I just spent about 20 mins opening a bottle of wine! Why?
Posted by: blooz
Date: December 28, 2006 07:50PM
I was going to ask "out of practice?"

A good quality cork remover is a necessity if you drink good wine.

Night Train Express, though, I think comes wityh a screw-top.



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Re: I just spent about 20 mins opening a bottle of wine! Why?
Posted by: billb
Date: December 28, 2006 07:50PM
Professional cork soaker needed ...
SNL





Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/28/2006 07:52PM by billb.
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Re: I just spent about 20 mins opening a bottle of wine! Why?
Posted by: OWC Larry
Date: December 28, 2006 07:52PM
Love those little bumps.... 20-20 hindsight looking back - but throughout the time consuming process, well, already got the time in and no turning back.

Hope the meal turned out well for the effort! smiling smiley



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Re: I just spent about 20 mins opening a bottle of wine! Why?
Posted by: JoeBob
Date: December 28, 2006 07:54PM
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blooz
I was going to ask "out of practice?"

A good quality cork remover is a necessity if you drink good wine.

My thought exactly.
Sounds like a bad cork, though.
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Re: I just spent about 20 mins opening a bottle of wine! Why?
Posted by: wurm
Date: December 28, 2006 08:16PM
RacerX, ours is like the one you pictured. One thing that has always bugged me about it though, is that it seems the part that goes over the top of the bottle, never really "covers" the bottle top. It's always sort of sitting on the bottle rather than overlapping. It always makes for a bit of a balancing act when screwing it down. Does yours go over the bottle top securely or just sort of sit on top of it?

I hope I'm explaining this right.
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Re: I just spent about 20 mins opening a bottle of wine! Why?
Posted by: Racer X
Date: December 28, 2006 08:27PM
Mine goes over. It is some pot metal probably, and has a nylon ring around the opening, probably for cushioning.
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Re: I just spent about 20 mins opening a bottle of wine! Why?
Posted by: billb
Date: December 28, 2006 08:41PM
I have a drawer full of openers.
Like the one racer pictured (I'll abandon those at motels rather than pack in suitcase)
A rabbit.
A co2 exploder.
A pocket puller like waiters often use.

Every now and then I find a "bad" cork.
Even with bottles stored on their sides.

Cheesecloth comes in handy. (or a coffee filter). :-)
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Re: I just spent about 20 mins opening a bottle of wine! Why?
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: December 28, 2006 10:34PM
1985 was a very good year for brake cleaner. ;)



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Re: I just spent about 20 mins opening a bottle of wine! Why?
Posted by: sscutchen
Date: December 28, 2006 11:21PM
Get a Genesis waiter's corkscrew.



The first and only waiter's corkscrew to incorporate a convenient two-wheel foil cutting system in place of a conventional knife. Other features of Genesis include a self-adjusting lever and extra long patented tapered spiral. Available in black, burgundy, hunter green, and white. Made in Italy

I bought mine locally. Here's one for $5. [www.terranovafinewines.com]

Simple. Elegant. Easy. Cheap.





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(should have titled this, "Cork: Screwed!")
Posted by: Psurfer
Date: December 29, 2006 01:07AM
Thanks all, I've recovered now. Nothing like a big meal w/a really Excellent spaghetti sauce, the goal of my labors. But that was a ridiculous pre-cooking workout. I had wondered if the cold bottle had something to do w/it -only because I don't usually have chilled bottles before opening, so was looking for the Mr. Science-type analysis to confirm I hadn't suddenly become a 98-lb weakling... I had noticed the neck of the bottle warming up to the touch while I was whaling away at it, but I suppose not enough for the necessary expansion that vicrock's waiter tip could provide:

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vicrock
Secret for a recalcitrant cork is to run the outside of the neck of the bottle under very hot tap water - also use a good waiter's lever corkscrew, or a "rabbit" type.

I'll remember that one, next time I find myself wrestling w/a vino on the kitchen floor.
And maybe that Genesis corkscrew is in my future, too. I like the feel/sound of yanking the cork out, unaided. ("thunk!" - ahhh)
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Re: I just spent about 20 mins opening a bottle of wine! Why?
Posted by: mikebw
Date: December 29, 2006 04:54AM
I've got one of these deals-

(that top part with the handles comes off the base)

And it works like magic, you just clamp it around the neck, push the top handle down and pull it back up. Gets the whole cork everytime with a minimal amount of effort. It does not fit in your pocket though...
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Re: I just spent about 20 mins opening a bottle of wine! Why?
Posted by: spearmint
Date: December 29, 2006 06:14AM
To the dread of the French some fine wines in Napa are being bottled with screw caps. Our wine is better too.




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Re: I just spent about 20 mins opening a bottle of wine! Why?
Posted by: DP
Date: December 29, 2006 06:50AM
Even the French are going to screw caps as all may be eventually. The issue is too many vinyards and not enough cork and plastic corks, of course, are plastic. Getting past the stigma of screw tops is the problem. They seal better with no need to store bottles on their sides and no problems trying to open them. They're less expensive and no corking flavors. I believe Rothschild has already started selling some bottles with screw caps.
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Re: I just spent about 20 mins opening a bottle of wine! Why?
Posted by: BigGuynRusty
Date: December 29, 2006 08:33AM
Screw tops don't use lead foil.

BGnR



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Re: I just spent about 20 mins opening a bottle of wine! Why?
Posted by: TheCaber
Date: December 29, 2006 09:02AM
No one ever accused Crane Lake of being a "Very Fine Wine". ;)
The local 'packie' sells it 3 for $12.

Label varieties I have seen are: Merlot, Chardonnay, Cabernet Sauvignon, Sauvignon Blanc, Petite Sirah.
We often get the first three, and are rarely disappointed.

Tried the Sirah on Tuesday; it was, um, wet and otherwise not very good.
Ended up making sangria with it. That was much better.

YMMV



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Re: I just spent about 20 mins opening a bottle of wine! Why?
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Date: December 29, 2006 09:20AM


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Re: I just spent about 20 mins opening a bottle of wine! Why?
Posted by: Psurfer
Date: December 30, 2006 12:05PM
At one point, I probably tried that method, too (see photo above).

For $3 on sale, the Crane Lake -it was the Sauv Blanc (not Chard) was great for cooking, and even reasonably passed the swig test (see photo above).
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