Would that be a 2016 vintage?

Or 2015?

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I *love* SIGs. It's Glocks I hate.

I have a 2015 13" MacBook Pro (Model Identifier:MacBookPro12,1). The keyboard works well for me.

"good" is a relative thing?

Im not a great typist, but the giant trackpad on 2016s would be a huge benefit. 2015 is tiny.

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Some are saying the 2018 keyboard is not bad. Worth checking out.

"good" is a relative thing?

Geezeus fskin' Louise.

'Good' as in the pre-butterfly key kerfluffle that's been almost a daily complaint on the innerwebs for some time now?

Now do we have to quantify the relativity of time as well?

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Your boos mean nothing to me, I've seen what you cheer for.

Insisting on your rights without acknowledging your responsibilities isn’t freedom, it’s adolescence.

I've been to the edge of the map, and there be monsters.

We are a government of laws, not men.

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When a good man is hurt,
all who would be called good
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We don’t do focus groups. They just ensure that you don’t offend anyone, and produce bland inoffensive products. —Sir Jonathan Ive

An armed society is a polite society.
And hope is a lousy defense.

You make me pull, I'll put you down.

I *love* SIGs. It's Glocks I hate.

I assume it would be the Mid-2015. The last one with MagSafe and USB-A ports. As soon as you get to the USB-C/TB3 machines, you get the tiny travel keys.



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I assume it would be the Mid-2015.

Thank you.

That makes sense. I think my 2015 MacBook was the first MB on the market with the tiny travel keys, and I thought the only one at the time, but I have no independent memory.


Some are saying the 2018 keyboard is not bad. Worth checking out.

Some say...

The 2018 MBP's keyboard is the same as the 2017's, just a bit quieter, if you type slowly. So 'not bad' isn't good enough. I'll check it out but the 'digital' feel my MB's and similar keys is not what I want in a new 'Book.

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I am that Masked Man.

Your boos mean nothing to me, I've seen what you cheer for.

Insisting on your rights without acknowledging your responsibilities isn’t freedom, it’s adolescence.

I've been to the edge of the map, and there be monsters.

We are a government of laws, not men.

Everybody counts or nobody counts.

When a good man is hurt,
all who would be called good
must suffer with him.

You and I have memories longer than the road that stretches out ahead.

There is no safety for honest men except
by believing all possible evil of evil men.

We don’t do focus groups. They just ensure that you don’t offend anyone, and produce bland inoffensive products. —Sir Jonathan Ive

An armed society is a polite society.
And hope is a lousy defense.

You make me pull, I'll put you down.

I *love* SIGs. It's Glocks I hate.

Good as in "the squeaky wheel gets the grease".

For every 1 complaint you see, theres 100 peeps not complaining that you will never see.

As a person who has never used a MBP keyboard, I might *love* the newer ones and hate the old... who knows?

People bought edsels and pacers and gremlins and pintos and mustang IIs and aztecs... =)

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MagSafe forever.

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MagSafe forever.

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I've been dealing with this since 2012. There are issues with the keyboard AND trackpad.

The 2012-era keyboard is fine, the mechanical trackpad is the best until the 2016/17/18 big ones.

The 2015 has a far inferior trackpad from my perspective that often glitches up from software issues too. Happens on several of our 2015 MBPR 13" models.

I found the 2016 MBPR trackpad the first that brings comparable utility and reliability as the mechanical trackpads.

The 2018 keyboard is nicely improved, I like it a lot.

No magsafe on the 2018 machine, but I plug mine into an external monitor most days (which also charges).