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Will They Ever Learn?? * Train 1 - Truck 0
Posted by: MrNoBody
Date: September 07, 2018 07:26PM
Another trucker will be getting a bill from CSX for his stupidity in Chester, VA!
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Sept. 7 (UPI) -- A Virginia driver captured video of the moment a train struck a semi-trailer, smashing the vehicle in half.
The video shows a tractor-trailer stopped on the tracks Thursday on a Chester road with the crossing arm down and the railroad warning lights flashing.

The truck driver and a passenger flee from the apparently stuck vehicle seconds before the train arrives and punches the trailer in half.
The cab of the trailer then rolls away with a small portion of the trailer still attached.

"The train hit the trailer which must have cut the brake lines to the tractor which rolled off the road after impact. The driver emerged from the other side of the tractor once the train had stopped. No one, to my knowledge, was hurt," the filmer wrote.



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Re: Will They Ever Learn?? * Train 1 - Truck 0
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: September 07, 2018 07:43PM
The train came to a stop sooner than I would have thought possible.



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Re: Will They Ever Learn?? * Train 1 - Truck 0
Posted by: mattkime
Date: September 07, 2018 08:09PM
Perfect soundtrack!



I can't help but wonder - Why was it stopped there? I suspect there would have been less damage if they would have gone through the barrier.



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Re: Will They Ever Learn?? * Train 1 - Truck 0
Posted by: billb
Date: September 07, 2018 08:38PM
It's a very poorly designed and built roadbed. It keeps happening - trucks getting stuck.

[www.wric.com]



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Re: Will They Ever Learn?? * Train 1 - Truck 0
Posted by: mikebw
Date: September 07, 2018 09:11PM
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billb
It's a very poorly designed and built roadbed. It keeps happening - trucks getting stuck.

[www.wric.com]

Yeah, and once it was severed then the front was able to keep moving. Nothing to do with brake lines I would say.
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Re: Will They Ever Learn?? * Train 1 - Truck 0
Posted by: Speedy
Date: September 07, 2018 09:25PM
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billb
It's a very poorly designed and built roadbed. It keeps happening - trucks getting stuck.

[www.wric.com]

Yeah, and once it was severed then the front was able to keep moving. Nothing to do with brake lines I would say.

You are correct. Once severed, the service line to the trailer brakes will bleed air rapidly and will be automatically shut off as soon as the tractor air supply drops below 60 PSI. The tractor emergency (parking) brake applies automatically at the same pressure but, being separate systems, if the valve is slightly off-spec of 60 PSI by only a pound or two (quite common), it will not set and if the engine is running and thus compressing air the parking brake valve will not 'pop' and the tractor is freewheeling. The driver should have set the brakes and also turned off the engine in case the tractor overturned to at least preserve the engine. In this case, no harm was done to the tractor.



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Re: Will They Ever Learn?? * Train 1 - Truck 0
Posted by: Paul F.
Date: September 07, 2018 09:31PM
You don't know that... What about the trauma? The deep psychological scars! There could be PTSD! Some tractors never get over this kind of thing.

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You are correct. Once severed, the service line to the trailer brakes will bleed air rapidly and will be automatically shut off as soon as the tractor air supply drops below 60 PSI. The tractor emergency (parking) brake applies automatically at the same pressure but, being separate systems, if the valve is slightly off-spec of 60 PSI by only a pound or two (quite common), it will not set and if the engine is running and thus compressing air the parking brake valve will not 'pop' and the tractor is freewheeling. The driver should have set the brakes and also turned off the engine in case the tractor overturned to at least preserve the engine. In this case, no harm was done to the tractor.



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Re: Will They Ever Learn?? * Train 1 - Truck 0
Posted by: Speedy
Date: September 07, 2018 09:33PM
It was probably glad to get the trailer off its back.

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You don't know that... What about the trauma? The deep psychological scars! There could be PTSD! Some tractors never get over this kind of thing.

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Speedy

You are correct. Once severed, the service line to the trailer brakes will bleed air rapidly and will be automatically shut off as soon as the tractor air supply drops below 60 PSI. The tractor emergency (parking) brake applies automatically at the same pressure but, being separate systems, if the valve is slightly off-spec of 60 PSI by only a pound or two (quite common), it will not set and if the engine is running and thus compressing air the parking brake valve will not 'pop' and the tractor is freewheeling. The driver should have set the brakes and also turned off the engine in case the tractor overturned to at least preserve the engine. In this case, no harm was done to the tractor.



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Re: Will They Ever Learn?? * Train 1 - Truck 0
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: September 07, 2018 09:36PM
The tractor will have nightmares like this.





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Re: Will They Ever Learn?? * Train 1 - Truck 0
Posted by: MrNoBody
Date: September 08, 2018 07:14AM
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billb
It's a very poorly designed and built roadbed. It keeps happening - trucks getting stuck.
[www.wric.com]

from billb's link:
"There are signs up warning drivers about the issue, but people who maneuver the intersection on a daily basis don't think it's enough." - local resident.
So drivers ignore the signs, crossing gates & bells, and the 175 decibel horns on the locomotive; attempt the crossing anyway. You cannot expect a good outcome regardless of the 'road issues'.
Begs the question, if this crossing is that hazardous, why hasn't Chesterfield County done something about it?



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Re: Will They Ever Learn?? * Train 1 - Truck 0
Posted by: Janit
Date: September 08, 2018 11:07AM
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So drivers ignore the signs, crossing gates & bells, and the 175 decibel horns on the locomotive; attempt the crossing anyway. You cannot expect a good outcome regardless of the 'road issues'.
Begs the question, if this crossing is that hazardous, why hasn't Chesterfield County done something about it?

Not quite. The track was probably clear when the truck began its approach. The truck attempted to cross, got stuck, and THEN came the bells, the deployed crossing gate, the train, and the blaring horn.

This is the type of sign that the truck was failing to attend to:





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Re: Will They Ever Learn?? * Train 1 - Truck 0
Posted by: billb
Date: September 08, 2018 01:20PM
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So drivers ignore the signs, crossing gates & bells, and the 175 decibel horns on the locomotive; attempt the crossing anyway. You cannot expect a good outcome regardless of the 'road issues'.
Begs the question, if this crossing is that hazardous, why hasn't Chesterfield County done something about it?

Not quite. The track was probably clear when the truck began its approach. The truck attempted to cross, got stuck, and THEN came the bells, the deployed crossing gate, the train, and the blaring horn.

This is the type of sign that the truck was failing to attend to:


They don't ignore the signs. The signs are not specific and really can't be. You have to attempt the crossing to see if your truck will make it or not. You can get out and look, trust your mirrors, whatever. You can do it dozens of times and sue to the complexity of angles on the 35th crossing get stuck just because you approached it slightly different this time.
It's not a black and white problem with a black and white solution.
They had x amount of dollars to build a crossing and this is what they've got.
How many have to die before the crossing gets state or federal funds ?
That's the game that gets played with infrastructure all over the country.



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Re: Will They Ever Learn?? * Train 1 - Truck 0
Posted by: Uncle Wig
Date: September 08, 2018 02:46PM
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MrNoBody
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billb
It's a very poorly designed and built roadbed. It keeps happening - trucks getting stuck.
[www.wric.com]

from billb's link:
"There are signs up warning drivers about the issue, but people who maneuver the intersection on a daily basis don't think it's enough." - local resident.
So drivers ignore the signs, crossing gates & bells, and the 175 decibel horns on the locomotive; attempt the crossing anyway. You cannot expect a good outcome regardless of the 'road issues'.
Begs the question, if this crossing is that hazardous, why hasn't Chesterfield County done something about it?

It's as if you didn't watch the video. The crossing gates were obviously up when the truck attempted to cross the tracks. Why do you assume the train was visible or audible at that time?

Could it be that driver had crossed there successfully in the past? Could it be Chesterfield is a poor county and doesn't have the cash to rework that crossing?



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Re: Will They Ever Learn?? * Train 1 - Truck 0
Posted by: PeterW
Date: September 08, 2018 03:26PM
Chesterfield is one of the most prosperous counties outside of Northern Virginia.
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Re: Will They Ever Learn?? * Train 1 - Truck 0
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: September 09, 2018 04:00AM
Could it be the driver never made that crossing before, was approaching a little faster than the law prescribes, saw the red lights and tried to make it before the arms dropped?

Without seeing the approach to tracks, it's all just biased speculation.






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