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Not your imagination - Apple products ARE more expensive
Posted by: sekker
Date: November 01, 2018 08:22PM
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Re: Not your imagination - Apple products ARE more expensive
Posted by: hal
Date: November 01, 2018 10:30PM
pretty shocking that the cheapest mac is now $799
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Re: Not your imagination - Apple products ARE more expensive
Posted by: Racer X
Date: November 01, 2018 10:55PM
remember when the mini started at $499?
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Re: Not your imagination - Apple products ARE more expensive
Posted by: mattkime
Date: November 01, 2018 11:12PM
Not surprising but disappointing



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Not breaking news.
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: November 02, 2018 04:01AM
...if you know what I mean.






I am that Masked Man.

All you can do, is all you can do.

There’s trouble — it's time to play the sound of my people.

Your boos mean nothing to me, I've seen what you cheer for.

Insisting on your rights without acknowledging your responsibilities isn’t freedom, it’s adolescence.

I've been to the edge of the map, and there be monsters.

We are a government of laws, not men.

Everybody counts or nobody counts.

When a good man is hurt,
all who would be called good
must suffer with him.

You and I have memories longer than the road that stretches out ahead.

There is no safety for honest men except
by believing all possible evil of evil men.

We don’t do focus groups. They just ensure that you don’t offend anyone, and produce bland inoffensive products. —Sir Jonathan Ive

An armed society is a polite society.
And hope is a lousy defense.

You make me pull, I'll put you down.

I *love* SIGs. It's Glocks I hate.
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Re: Not your imagination - Apple products ARE more expensive
Posted by: spacescape
Date: November 02, 2018 05:46AM
This has always been the case. Other than the Mac Pro can you add memory to any computer? Upgrade? External hard drives have great speed now. But, a nice sleek desktop / work space starts looking like a mess within a few minutes with external stuff. I have an 27" iMac that I can add memory too... But, involves some work do upgrade the HD so I've opted to leave the internal drive alone. To top it off, the video card cannot run some of the newer games my kids wanted to run on it such as Fortnite (oh darn...). Isn't a huge deal but they have built in obsolescence and it's really starting to look like it may be time to move to Windows 10 at home or just start buying whatever desktop is around $1,000 that can run what we need every few years. I did price out a DELL and they quickly get pricey if you let them...

(EDIT: I'm wrong... Guess you can add more memory to the Mac Mini...)



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/02/2018 06:38AM by spacescape.
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Re: Not your imagination - Apple products ARE more expensive
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: November 02, 2018 06:35AM
....yup.....even the iPhone.......things are more expensive now from them....



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Re: Not your imagination - Apple products ARE more expensive
Posted by: Mactel
Date: November 02, 2018 08:19AM
Poor Apple is barely staying afloat. ROTFL
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Re: Not your imagination - Apple products ARE more expensive
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: November 02, 2018 01:56PM
Guess you can add more memory to the Mac Mini

Yes, no guess, up to 64MB, if there are 32MB SO-DIMMs and one can afford them.

I wonder what use-case scenario would justify that much RAM.

But it doesn't look quite as easy as my 2012, can't be sure.

I got my 2012 2.6 i7, quad core, HD4000, 8G, (silent upgrade), 1T spinner, as an Apple refurb for $629, I think. The base price of $799 would have had 4G memory and a 2.3 CPU (i7 I think).

Now, a base mini, 3.6 i3, quad core, UHD640, 8G, 128G flash is $799.

External storage is my SOP, so the smaller (though faster and flash) HD isn't an issue. Though the i3 is a quad core, I have no idea what's lost compared to an i7. Though I'd like to render some OTA mp2 video to mp4, I'm not sure I'd/I'll pop for the i7. At an additional $300, $1099 seems a little steep.

Otherwise, except for the i3, the new mini is a decent deal compared to a similarly equipped 2012.






I am that Masked Man.

All you can do, is all you can do.

There’s trouble — it's time to play the sound of my people.

Your boos mean nothing to me, I've seen what you cheer for.

Insisting on your rights without acknowledging your responsibilities isn’t freedom, it’s adolescence.

I've been to the edge of the map, and there be monsters.

We are a government of laws, not men.

Everybody counts or nobody counts.

When a good man is hurt,
all who would be called good
must suffer with him.

You and I have memories longer than the road that stretches out ahead.

There is no safety for honest men except
by believing all possible evil of evil men.

We don’t do focus groups. They just ensure that you don’t offend anyone, and produce bland inoffensive products. —Sir Jonathan Ive

An armed society is a polite society.
And hope is a lousy defense.

You make me pull, I'll put you down.

I *love* SIGs. It's Glocks I hate.
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Re: Not your imagination - Apple products ARE more expensive
Posted by: Lew Zealand
Date: November 02, 2018 05:33PM
i3 vs. i7 is only relevant as a marketing label. Looking at the chips at face value:

i3: 8th Gen, 4 cores, 4 threads. 3.6GHz all core speed
i7: 3rd Gen, 4 cores, 8 threads, 3.4GHz all core Turbo

2x thread count (hyperthreading) helps the i7 in multithreaded tasks only (about 10-20%) but then the i7 is about 20% slower per clock due to older architecture. +1 to the i3 in those jobs but only by a little. Also the i3 has 200 MHz faster clocks, another very little +1.

However since the overall single core difference will be around 25% in favor of the i3, you will probably notice the speed difference as 25% is about the lower limit of noticeability in everyday single threaded tasks.

All depends on how you look at it. 6 years later the high end part is now beat by the low end one. The GPU is much improved but also could be much better and there's no internal option to do that.
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