just broke out my 9600 with a G3 440 card and 448 megs of ram

booted in about the same amount of time as my dual G5 with 4.5 gigs of ram

what really kicked butt was applications -- photoshop 4 started in 10 seconds

tons of fonts loaded in ATM, which also opened as fast as fontbook and way faster than suitcase... gonna be sad to see this 9600 go =(

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I have a dual-boot Quicksilver that boots into OS 9 in 12 seconds and launches Photoshop 5 in 4 seconds...

Photoshop CS takes a full 30 seconds to launch on it under 10.4.8. 'Haven't timed startups.

Yes, startup times are faster on Intel Macs. And *some* native apps start up faster on Intel OS X than they do on PPC under OS X.

But OS 9 flies.

I wonder how fast a Mac OS 9 machine equipped with 4.5 GB of RAM would boot? How fast would it launch PS CS?

IOW, this is silly.

> How fast would it launch PS CS?

I'd *really* like to be able to answer that.

Blame Adobe, not your machine. PS 7 loads in 10 seconds on my MDD Duallie 1.25 under 10.3.9.

The Beta of Photoshop CS3 booted in less than 7 seconds on my Macbook Pro. I think the intel procs and the new universal software is going to run more on par with OS 9s speed.

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Imagine if OS X wasn't so glossy and they just focused on speed.

That's just cray talk!

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yeah, rendering DVDs is pretty quick on a G3/440, too.

Software has been in a downward spiral for a long time.

In the 1960's I was involved in automating the Chicago Board of Trade. A redundant system was implemented using two DEC PDP-8s with a massive 12k of RAM ( 8k x12 bits per word). About 25 years later Tandem computers were making a big impact in the financial community with their "Non Stop " hardware/software. A friend who had worked on the original CBT system was contracted by IBM to benchmark their Tandem competition in terms of financial transactions per second. The Tandem system with thousands of times more hardware resources just about matched that old PDP-8 system,but did manage to edge out its IBM competitor.

remember how fast the internet used to be? Back with 14.4 dial up and no graphics? It's a sad cycle, CPU's and hardware gets faster, and software gets more bloated and prettier to bog things down.

Yep, there's no incentive to write lean code any more. The software vendors just assume faster processors and more RAM will make up for their laziness. But, with more and more resources available to them every year, they still demand even more. Sounds like they have a promising second career in Congress.

My home G4 933 with 1.25 GB Ram has OS9.2.2 on an internal drive that I use for Pro Tools so the OS is pretty lean. Still, it boots much slower than OS 10.4.6 on an external FW drive.

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its faster until it crashes. or one app hogs the cpu

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its faster until it crashes. or one app hogs the cpu

pfft, OS 9 never crashes =)

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well, my OS 8 runs 24/7/365 and I might have to reboot due to a freeze about 3 - 5 times a year.

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how can you even consider using OS 9 once you get used to OS X?

> how can you even consider using OS 9 once you get used to OS X?

Believe it or not, OS X isn't perfect. There are some things that can be done better or at least more easily under OS 9 -- and programs and plug-ins that were never ported.