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do most folks do a "clean install" of a new OS?
Posted by: robfilms
Date: December 15, 2018 11:08AM
Poll
do you perform a "clean install" when you update your OS?
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39 votes were received.
yes 7
 
18%
no 26
 
67%
what is a "clean install"? 4
 
10%
only when any of the first four digits of the OS changes xx.xx. 2
 
5%



do most folks do a "clean install" of a new OS?

i have not done one in a long time but i find it such a pita.

do i perform a clean install of mojave or not?

thanks in advance.

rob
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Re: do most folks do a "clean install" of a new OS?
Posted by: gabester
Date: December 15, 2018 11:51AM
I generally will perform a clean install onto a new drive every couplefew years or so, so I chose the "only when any of the first four digits of the OS changes xx.xx." option.
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Re: do most folks do a "clean install" of a new OS?
Posted by: space-time
Date: December 15, 2018 11:52AM
I usually do a clean install, specially if installing a new drive or if making a major leap (such as from 10.6 to 10.9, and now preparing to jump from 10.9 to 10.13/14)

however, in a few cases I also did incremental upgrades and most of the time it worked fine for me.

is the system is well tuned, and drives are healthy, and the jump (delta) is only .1 or .2, I would give it a try.

if none of these applies, then I would do a clean install.

YMMV of course.
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Re: do most folks do a "clean install" of a new OS?
Posted by: rjmacs
Date: December 15, 2018 11:59AM
It depends.

With mojave it would depend a lot on whether the boot drive would be an SSD, and whether it is already formatted as APFS.



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Re: do most folks do a "clean install" of a new OS?
Posted by: sekker
Date: December 15, 2018 12:00PM
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rjmacs
It depends.

With mojave it would depend a lot on whether the boot drive would be an SSD, and whether it is already formatted as APFS.

Apple's updater worked fine on a MBPR2012 internal SSD.
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Re: do most folks do a "clean install" of a new OS?
Posted by: sekker
Date: December 15, 2018 12:01PM
I tend to do so every few years when I do hardware updates at the same time.

Apple's Mac OS has not really changed that much since 10.11 - these are largely incremental updates. The next Mac OS will be substantive as it is 64bit only.
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Re: do most folks do a "clean install" of a new OS?
Posted by: rjmacs
Date: December 15, 2018 12:03PM
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sekker
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rjmacs
It depends.

With mojave it would depend a lot on whether the boot drive would be an SSD, and whether it is already formatted as APFS.

Apple's updater worked fine on a MBPR2012 internal SSD.

I have no doubt that it often works flawlessly. But, I've heard enough reports of problems that it's a process I'd avoid if practicable.



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Re: do most folks do a "clean install" of a new OS?
Posted by: billb
Date: December 15, 2018 12:08PM
About 50/50

Some of my later hardware have had slower drives and getting rid of all the OS archived and my own crap bloat helped mitigate their deteriorating. responsiveness. Never faster than new but a return to original capabilities was refreshing.

My newer devices with SSD I've just been updating .



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Re: do most folks do a "clean install" of a new OS?
Posted by: robfilms
Date: December 15, 2018 01:06PM
the machine i would be installing mojave on is a late 2015 i7 imac with 40gb ram with the 3tb fusion drive.

do the specs of this machine suggest clean install or not?

again, thanks for joining the conversation.

rob



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Re: do most folks do a "clean install" of a new OS?
Posted by: jdc
Date: December 15, 2018 01:20PM
Dont see how the specs warrant a clean install or not, its mostly a personal choice.

I *used* to be just an "update" kind of person, but now Im always a clean install guy.

It really depends on the process, and how you are setup for it.

For me, its a series of steps. And since all of my software is downloadable, its even easier. I also dont keep any files on my internal drive, so a lot less to copy over.

Basically in order: OS, Dropbox, 1 password, all the software.

1 Password is critical to the install process, becuase once its in I no longer have to worry about passwords or installs. Just download and go.

The only other "big" moves for me are mail (I use POP not IMAP) and moving things like Firefox autofil.

I could probably do a full clean install in just a couple of hours. Most of the time waiting on OS X to install. Rest is easy.





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Re: do most folks do a "clean install" of a new OS?
Posted by: tuqqer
Date: December 15, 2018 01:53PM
What jdc said.

Seems that the last couple of major updates are a lot more stable and don't have as many problems copying over the old OS as before. But that could be completely made up on my part.

Still, I actually love doing clean installs, because everything operates like a brand new Mac. It also gives me a chance to do a lot of house cleaning.



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Re: do most folks do a "clean install" of a new OS?
Posted by: Fritz
Date: December 15, 2018 03:38PM
I do, out of habit. Recently did a n & p moving from Mavs to Sierra on my 2013 MBA.
Didn't seem to take long. But the cat may have been blocking my view.



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Re: do most folks do a "clean install" of a new OS?
Posted by: Grateful11
Date: December 15, 2018 03:46PM
I'm doing a clean install right now because of a HD failure.



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Re: do most folks do a "clean install" of a new OS?
Posted by: rz
Date: December 15, 2018 04:11PM
It's been a while. I think the last time was 10.5 -> 10.6. I went from 10.6 -> 10.9 and then to 10.11 by just updating.
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Re: do most folks do a "clean install" of a new OS?
Posted by: Golfer
Date: December 15, 2018 06:46PM
I haven't done a clean install since I started using OS X with 10.2. New OS? run the installer and enjoy life. Get a new machine? clone the old to the new and move on.
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Re: do most folks do a "clean install" of a new OS?
Posted by: space-time
Date: December 15, 2018 06:56PM
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Golfer
I haven't done a clean install since I started using OS X with 10.2. New OS? run the installer and enjoy life. Get a new machine? clone the old to the new and move on.

WOW....

I wonder if anyone can break his record. I don't remember, but were you able to install 10.0 (OS X) over 9.6 (classic)?
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Re: do most folks do a "clean install" of a new OS?
Posted by: PeterW
Date: December 15, 2018 07:17PM
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space-time
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Golfer
I haven't done a clean install since I started using OS X with 10.2. New OS? run the installer and enjoy life. Get a new machine? clone the old to the new and move on.

WOW....

I wonder if anyone can break his record. I don't remember, but were you able to install 10.0 (OS X) over 9.6 (classic)?

How quickly they forget. There was no 9.6; OS 9 ended with 9.2.2 and no, there was no updating OS 9 to OSX.
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Re: do most folks do a "clean install" of a new OS?
Posted by: Golfer
Date: December 15, 2018 07:28PM
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space-time
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Golfer
I haven't done a clean install since I started using OS X with 10.2. New OS? run the installer and enjoy life. Get a new machine? clone the old to the new and move on.

WOW....

I wonder if anyone can break his record. I don't remember, but were you able to install 10.0 (OS X) over 9.6 (classic)?

As I recall, when I went from OS 9.2 to 10.2 I did a from scratch install on a separate partion. My Mojave running 2017 MBP still has the "System folder" used for Classic. It doesn't take up much space and have never seen any reason to toss it. A couple years ago I used that folder to set-up an iBook to run 10.3 with Classic.
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Re: do most folks do a "clean install" of a new OS?
Posted by: space-time
Date: December 15, 2018 07:51PM
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PeterW
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space-time
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Golfer
I haven't done a clean install since I started using OS X with 10.2. New OS? run the installer and enjoy life. Get a new machine? clone the old to the new and move on.

WOW....

I wonder if anyone can break his record. I don't remember, but were you able to install 10.0 (OS X) over 9.6 (classic)?

How quickly they forget. There was no 9.6; OS 9 ended with 9.2.2 and no, there was no updating OS 9 to OSX.

sorry... that was what, 18 years ago? yes, there was 8.6, 9.? sure, I forgot.
sorry once again.
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Re: do most folks do a "clean install" of a new OS?
Posted by: billb
Date: December 15, 2018 08:09PM
Probably means 8.6.
I remember going back to 8.6 from 9, I don't remember why.



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Re: do most folks do a "clean install" of a new OS?
Posted by: robfilms
Date: December 16, 2018 12:08PM
this morning i went from sierra to mojave without a clean install.

the entire process to 90min.

nothing was broken.

everything seems to be operating just fine.

i am very pleased.

thank you to all you MFs who were so very helpful in sharing your experiences/

thumbs up.

rob
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