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Upgrading a 4,1 Mac Pro.. Wow, that was easy!
Posted by: Catzilla
Date: December 16, 2018 08:06PM
I'm late to the "Pro" Mac scene as of late, my last pro was a MDD. I picked up a 4,1 at Goodwill a few months ago. I initially added some drives, later a video card, and tonight added a BluRay drive I had hanging around. What an amazing user friendly device. All I needed was a phillips head! If it didn't require de-lidded CPUs I would have done that too.
Next project is a battery replacement on a late '13 MBP, a little bit more involved. The OWC kit includes gloves and safety glasses.
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Re: Upgrading a 4,1 Mac Pro.. Wow, that was easy!
Posted by: ka jowct
Date: December 16, 2018 08:14PM
The Mac Pro is my favorite Apple design. It's just a pleasure to work with.



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Re: Upgrading a 4,1 Mac Pro.. Wow, that was easy!
Posted by: anonymouse1
Date: December 16, 2018 08:23PM
Good firmware upgrade to let it run Mojave is pretty easy, too. I’ll post a link later.
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Re: Upgrading a 4,1 Mac Pro.. Wow, that was easy!
Posted by: Catzilla
Date: December 16, 2018 08:31PM
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Good firmware upgrade to let it run Mojave is pretty easy, too. I’ll post a link later.
Thanks, 1st thing I did was upgrade to a 5,1. I added an RX560 which works great on Mojave.
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Re: Upgrading a 4,1 Mac Pro.. Wow, that was easy!
Posted by: Spiff
Date: December 16, 2018 09:06PM
You can use lidded processors, it’s just a little bit more tricky to install. There are de-lided install kits out there. Do an Internet search for 4.1 upgrade.
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Re: Upgrading a 4,1 Mac Pro.. Wow, that was easy!
Posted by: space-time
Date: December 16, 2018 09:26PM
lid, no lid, what are you guys talking about???
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Re: Upgrading a 4,1 Mac Pro.. Wow, that was easy!
Posted by: C(-)ris
Date: December 16, 2018 10:19PM
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space-time
lid, no lid, what are you guys talking about???

Heat spreading caps on top of the processors. I wouldn’t recommend the lidded upgrade route. I ruined a logic board and processor trying that. DeLidding the processors wasn’t too hard. I was successful doing 5 sets of processors.



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Re: Upgrading a 4,1 Mac Pro.. Wow, that was easy!
Posted by: MrNoBody
Date: December 16, 2018 11:09PM
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space-time
lid, no lid, what are you guys talking about???

s-t, here's a vid that should help.
In this video, we'll be delidding soldered Xeon CPU's for use in a Mac Pro 4.1



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Re: Upgrading a 4,1 Mac Pro.. Wow, that was easy!
Posted by: JoeH
Date: December 17, 2018 01:19AM
As I recall, if you are upgrading a single CPU Mac Pro you don't need de-lidded processors. The single socket boards and heatsink are set for processors with lids.
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Re: Upgrading a 4,1 Mac Pro.. Wow, that was easy!
Posted by: Zoidberg
Date: December 17, 2018 08:29AM
I had a PowerMac G5 back in the day; loved that thing re/expandability and ease of upgrade. I really miss that about Apple.

Oh; it also made for an excellent space heater.



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Re: Upgrading a 4,1 Mac Pro.. Wow, that was easy!
Posted by: tuqqer
Date: December 17, 2018 09:18AM
Owned that beautiful aluminum beast for almost 10 years. What a thing of beauty. First time you open that side door, and see how perfectly it all fit. Just gorgeous. And what an easy thing to upgrade. Loved that machine.

Love my MacPro trashcan just as much, but as Apple themselves have noted, it's quite stuck in a corner as far as upgrading.

I'm one of the few out there looking forward to seeing what new MacPro they come up with. (but I do have my eyeballs on the new Minis as a possible next replacement).



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Re: Upgrading a 4,1 Mac Pro.. Wow, that was easy!
Posted by: mikebw
Date: December 17, 2018 11:44AM
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I'm one of the few out there looking forward to seeing what new MacPro they come up with. (but I do have my eyeballs on the new Minis as a possible next replacement).

Trust me you are not the only one.

I really hope they bring back the old case, or at least something just as simple from an user accessibility standpoint. Make it space grey and call it a day.
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Re: Upgrading a 4,1 Mac Pro.. Wow, that was easy!
Posted by: tlh828
Date: December 17, 2018 11:50AM
Anonymous1: Please do post the link!
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Re: Upgrading a 4,1 Mac Pro.. Wow, that was easy!
Posted by: rz
Date: December 17, 2018 04:09PM
I was all set to get a 4,1 and upgrade it, but I got an awesome deal on a 12-core 5,1 a few years ago. Best Mac I've ever owned, although the 3,1 it replaced was a work horse for over 7 years.
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Re: Upgrading a 4,1 Mac Pro.. Wow, that was easy!
Posted by: ka jowct
Date: December 17, 2018 04:58PM
I would love to see the old Mac Pro case brought back, or something very similar.

One large concern for me would be the minimum OS that anyone buying a new Mac Pro would be forced to use. I have no plans to install Mojave on anything that I currently have. If Mojave didn't force conversion to APFS on SSDs, I'd be more inclined to at least try it out on a test system.

It's beyond ridiculous that those chuckleheads at Apple could not get their collective fecal output together three or four years ago to produce something useful.



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Re: Upgrading a 4,1 Mac Pro.. Wow, that was easy!
Posted by: Grateful11
Date: December 17, 2018 07:12PM
I keep looking but not sure if I should pounce or not.

This one almost sounds too good to be true. It's loaded.
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Re: Upgrading a 4,1 Mac Pro.. Wow, that was easy!
Posted by: Buzz
Date: December 17, 2018 07:43PM
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Grateful11
I keep looking but not sure if I should pounce or not.

This one almost sounds too good to be true. It's loaded.
[raleigh.craigslist.org]

Maybe they left off a zero...
No "almost", that's a honkin' steal.
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Re: Upgrading a 4,1 Mac Pro.. Wow, that was easy!
Posted by: anonymouse1
Date: December 18, 2018 09:25AM
The "best answer" here has all the info needed, but as the poster noted, it is an info dump:

[www.ifixit.com]

This one is clearer, but may not be as complete:

[www.ifixit.com]

Read them both all the way through, and you'll be set.

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Anonymous1: Please do post the link!
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Re: Upgrading a 4,1 Mac Pro.. Wow, that was easy!
Posted by: tlh828
Date: December 19, 2018 03:22AM
Anonymouse1: Thank you. Looks easy and the info is clear. Good deals can be had on the 4,1.
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