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The interview: blew it
Posted by: rob banzai
Date: January 18, 2006 07:42PM
I don't think I've given the wrong answer as many times in one interview as I did in this one.

It was an I.T. consulting firm but unfortunately for me it happened to be really different from every other I.T. consulting firm I've encountered. They just had their own very, very specific business and tech philosophy and damned if I didn't fall into one tiger trap after another. He'd say things like "so it sounds like you enjoy working with alot of different kinds of systems.... well we don't do that here. We only use one kind of system."

I would've probably done better if I'd stapled my mouth shut as soon as we sat down.

There were various other things about the interview that went poorly. I was doing my best but I've created alot of obstacles to being a good candidate for pretty much anything. Trying to overcome those obstacles to get a job that will keep me from becoming homeless appears to be impossible.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/18/2006 07:43PM by rob banzai.
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Re: The interview: blew it
Posted by: Racer X
Date: January 18, 2006 07:51PM
"He'd say things like "so it sounds like you enjoy working with alot of different kinds of systems.... well we don't do that here. We only use one kind of system."

sounds like not the place to work.

On OS and software is just a tool to get jobs done.

If the OS doesn't get the job done, you are using the wrong tools.

We use Macs/Windows, UNIX and Linux at work (and possibly some task/machine specific installs as well)
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Re: The interview: blew it
Posted by: M A V I C
Date: January 18, 2006 07:51PM
I changed my technique for landing new clients. I used to go in and try to read them and give them the answers they're looking for.

Now I go in, listen for a while, get them laughing about the problems they've had, and answer their questions 100% honestly, even if it's brutally honest (eg, "if you've gone through that many companies, it might be good to notice what the common element with all those was. [being them]")

I say "I don't know" when I don't know. I give them straight answers, and I keep them laughing.

I've landed every project I've tried with that tactic.




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Re: The interview: blew it
Posted by: Silencio
Date: January 18, 2006 07:51PM
Man, I'm really sorry to hear that. I was pulling for you all day after reading your previous thread.
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Re: The interview: blew it
Posted by: M A V I C
Date: January 18, 2006 07:56PM
After reading Racer X's response... several years ago I turned down a job opportunity and the company was pissed. "Very upset" is what the headhunter told me.

During the interview, they mentioned they used NT4. As both a Mac and Windows user, I was a little dismayed. So during my turn on Q of the Q and A, I asked them if they only used NT4 and they answered "yes, and we have no plans of upgrading to 2000." This was in the end of 2000. I refused to work for a web dev/creative company that wouldn't even upgrade to 2k. NT4 doesn't even support USB. They probably use Note Pad to write their code...

Be yourself. If a company doesn't like that, that's their issue. If you still can't land a job, maybe find some sort of coach to help you out. But faking it will just land you in a bad position.




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Re: The interview: blew it
Posted by: rgG
Date: January 18, 2006 08:00PM
Sorry to hear that Rob. I hope the next one, and there will be a next one, goes better for you.
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Re: The interview: blew it
Posted by: Bernie
Date: January 18, 2006 08:04PM
Like M A V I C said, be yourself.




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Re: The interview: blew it
Posted by: spearmint
Date: January 18, 2006 08:05PM
Here is California the State employment offices offer mock interviews at some locations. The Silicon Valley executive job help offers them also. Can you find a state or city organization to give you help this way? Maybe a savvy businessperson friend. Does your resume offer up stuff that could hurt your chances?

Applying for state,city and county jobs will get you interviews also and maybe a decent job.

Go get em!





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Re: The interview: blew it
Posted by: Tofer
Date: January 18, 2006 08:06PM
Sorry to hear that -- don't give up yet, though. I've been in bad interviews (in my opinion) that turned into nice jobs.

> Trying to overcome those obstacles to get a job that will keep me from becoming
> homeless appears to be impossible.

I'm sorry to hear you're depressed about it. What part of the country do you live in? Is moving an option?

-Tofer
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Re: The interview: blew it
Posted by: rob banzai
Date: January 18, 2006 08:10PM
I live in Los Angeles. I've lived cheaper places and had just as poor luck. At this point moving is not an option.
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Re: The interview: blew it
Posted by: spearmint
Date: January 18, 2006 08:29PM
Check out the California Employment Development Department under job services and start there. The State gave me access to computers, fax and copies and counseling. There are State jobs out there but may not make you enough money.

Here's a place to see what they are up to. You can fill out an application and not have to do it again but store on line. Good Luck. [www.spb.ca.gov] Get some free help. You paid for it with the ridiculous taxes.
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Re: The interview: blew it
Posted by: The UnDoug
Date: January 18, 2006 08:29PM
You could always be a porn star. winking smiley
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Re: The interview: blew it
Posted by: microchip13
Date: January 18, 2006 08:36PM
Sorry to hear about that.

I managed to catch your thread.

Hope you find something.



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Re: The interview: blew it
Posted by: Kiva
Date: January 18, 2006 08:48PM
sorry about the bummer interview...that's tough, especially when you really need the job. so, paradoxically, the more you "need" the job, the more that tends to come across in the interview and the tougher it goes.

Keep looking...and good luck.

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Re: The interview: blew it
Posted by: MacMagus
Date: January 18, 2006 10:03PM
I've had interviews that I thought I'd blown and ended up with offers.

I remember one in particular: I mentioned in the telephone pre-interview that one reason I'm a good support person is that I know all of the software, particularly Photoshop. So they asked me to bring some samples. I brought a few posters that I'd done for local bands and some CD labels and inserts that I'd done for my own collection.

The art director comes in, looks at one of my CD designs and says "That's my work."

It turns out that he made the magazine cover that I scanned for a jewel case insert. I made some major changes to it -- basically turning it into a parody of the original.

He seemed pissed off, but I got the call a week later (after I had already accepted another job).

'Point is, you never really know... unless they told you right then and there that they hate you.
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Re: The interview: blew it
Posted by: Refurbvirgin
Date: January 18, 2006 10:48PM
I understand the Catholic church is hiring priests. You like children, don't you?
The Army has raised the age of enlistment, too. You can pass for 42, can't you?

Seriously, Summer is just around the corner, and California is a great place to live out of your car. Things could be worse. You could be in Baghdad.

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Re: The interview: blew it
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: January 18, 2006 11:29PM
don't assume you blew it. Send the thank you note, ask for a follow up. Kiss ass as usual.


However- I tend to agree with the team here- a consulting firm that has ONE solution for all problems sounds like future road kill.
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Re: The interview: blew it
Posted by: kj
Date: January 19, 2006 02:18AM
Man, I know how you feel. I've been through it many times, and no matter what, I don't do well in interviews. So you may have had a bad one, but I've never had a good one winking smiley Anyway, I'm always amazed how things work out in the end, if you keep trying. Good luck! kj.
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Re: The interview: blew it
Posted by: mikebw
Date: January 19, 2006 07:11AM
Don't sweat it man. Any company that wants to force you to bend over to fit their profile is not a place you should be working.

I once interviewed to be a Mac-Sales guy at CompUSA (I know, the 8th deadly sin), and the whole converstation was basically the guy telling me the way things are done, and me having to agree to that or else I would be out of there.
Having just come from another Mac Reseller I really knew my stuff, and his line about how the CUSA warranty was actually better then AppleCare didn't fly, but he qualified it by saying that all sales persons are required to sell a certain number every month. So it didn't really matter if I agreed to it or not.

They called me back a week or two later saying I was accepted, but I had already found something else, thank goodness.


I also interviewed to work at Safeway once in High School. I could see right through their questions, they had only one kind of person in mind for the job, and frankly I wasn't going to be that person, so I answered honestly and didn't get the job. I wasn't going to be their mindless drone worker, I'm better off now because of it.
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Re: The interview: blew it
Posted by: Marcos Malo
Date: January 19, 2006 04:21PM
Rob,

You should consider applying at Trader Joe's, at least until something better comes along. From what I hear, TJs is a really good company to work for.



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Re: The interview: blew it
Posted by: SKYLANE
Date: January 19, 2006 05:05PM
Sometimes those "trap" like questions are designed to test your convictions. To see if you get wishy washy and change to conform to what they want to hear. Sometimes an interviewer may intentionally rattle your chain just to see how you respond. Maybe you are ahead in the game and don't realize it yet?
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