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Star Trek Picard trailer is probably going to get me to subscribe to CBS
Posted by: pRICE cUBE
Date: October 05, 2019 11:48PM
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Re: Star Trek Picard trailer is probably going to get me to subscribe to CBS
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: October 06, 2019 04:35AM
Data is seriously in need of some CGI, an android shouldn't age like that.



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Re: Star Trek Picard trailer is probably going to get me to subscribe to CBS
Posted by: mrlynn
Date: October 06, 2019 07:52AM
A new series featuring Picard? When does it start? On broadcast CBS?

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Re: Star Trek Picard trailer is probably going to get me to subscribe to CBS
Posted by: Forrest
Date: October 06, 2019 08:30AM
Star Trek: Picard will be on CBS All Access - a subscription service.
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Re: Star Trek Picard trailer is probably going to get me to subscribe to CBS
Posted by: Speedy
Date: October 06, 2019 08:54AM
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Re: Star Trek Picard trailer is probably going to get me to subscribe to CBS
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: October 06, 2019 09:19AM
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Re: Star Trek Picard trailer is probably going to get me to subscribe to CBS
Posted by: PeterB
Date: October 06, 2019 10:01AM
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Ombligo
Data is seriously in need of some CGI, an android shouldn't age like that.

That's what I thought too, he looked pretty awful, unless it's intended as a flashback / memory scene ... in which case it's believable that Picard doesn't remember Data exactly the way we saw him (especially given his age). What argues against it being a memory/flashback is that there's another scene in one of the trailers where we apparently see Data as parts in a drawer...




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Re: Star Trek Picard trailer is probably going to get me to subscribe to CBS
Posted by: tronnei
Date: October 06, 2019 11:22AM
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That's what I thought too, he looked pretty awful, unless it's intended as a flashback / memory scene ...

I think it's a dream of Picard's, given that it switches from that scene to Picard in bed.

Some digital de-aging work is definitely needed. Make-up alone is not enough.
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Re: Star Trek Picard trailer is probably going to get me to subscribe to CBS
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: October 06, 2019 11:34AM
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Some digital de-aging work is definitely needed. Make-up alone is not enough.

And fix the wig.



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Re: Star Trek Picard trailer is probably going to get me to subscribe to CBS
Posted by: sekker
Date: October 06, 2019 11:52AM
Will all depend on the script and the new and younger supporting cast. I like that it’s a Space Opera.
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Re: Star Trek Picard trailer is probably going to get me to subscribe to CBS
Posted by: graylocks
Date: October 06, 2019 12:27PM
oh, snap! i'm doomed. where's my credit card?

in all access do the episodes drop weekly or all at once? i've been meaning to do a trial and binge the trek series that came on last year. is that even still around?



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Re: Star Trek Picard trailer is probably going to get me to subscribe to CBS
Posted by: tronnei
Date: October 06, 2019 12:34PM
Weekly, to keep you subscribed.
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Re: Star Trek Picard trailer is probably going to get me to subscribe to CBS
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: October 06, 2019 12:43PM
....'Star Trek: Discovery' just dropped trailer for new season [ they are basically doing the 'Star Trek: Voyager' thing in the new season trapped in new time, trying to get back ]......



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Re: Star Trek Picard trailer is probably going to get me to subscribe to CBS
Posted by: graylocks
Date: October 06, 2019 12:59PM
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Weekly, to keep you subscribed.

does it stay available once it drops? like, could i go back and binge past season(s) now?



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Re: Star Trek Picard trailer is probably going to get me to subscribe to CBS
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: October 06, 2019 01:08PM
....yes....most wait until season ends....then do a free trial to binge the season.....



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Re: Star Trek Picard trailer is probably going to get me to subscribe to CBS
Posted by: PeterB
Date: October 06, 2019 02:27PM
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Some digital de-aging work is definitely needed. Make-up alone is not enough.

And fix the wig.

And fix the eyes. There's something particularly "dead" looking about the way they did him. I'm not convinced it's just a dream of Picard's, particularly because of the parts scene but also because they're bringing in all the old actors/characters (Riker, Troi, Seven, Hugh of Borg, etc.).




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Re: Star Trek Picard trailer is probably going to get me to subscribe to CBS
Posted by: bfd
Date: October 06, 2019 02:35PM
There are more stories to be told. Indeed.
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Re: Star Trek Picard trailer is probably going to get me to subscribe to CBS
Posted by: Bernie
Date: October 06, 2019 03:17PM
I will wait for it to be bundled on iTunes.

Speaking of which.....Eleventh Hour who has seen it?

It is $6.99 at iTunes. Four episodes @ a bit over an hour.






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Re: Star Trek Picard trailer is probably going to get me to subscribe to CBS
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: October 06, 2019 03:28PM
...that is the UK version....there was an American version....it got canceled.....



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Re: Star Trek Picard trailer is probably going to get me to subscribe to CBS
Posted by: Zoidberg
Date: October 06, 2019 03:55PM
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Ombligo
Data is seriously in need of some CGI, an android shouldn't age like that.

That's what I thought too, he looked pretty awful, unless it's intended as a flashback / memory scene ... in which case it's believable that Picard doesn't remember Data exactly the way we saw him (especially given his age). What argues against it being a memory/flashback is that there's another scene in one of the trailers where we apparently see Data as parts in a drawer...

Probable that it is a (recurring) dream sequence, or perhaps a holodeck setup. Could also be B4.

Still and all; simplest explanation is that, since Brent Spiner ages, you write in an explanation: Dr Soong's emotion chip had a hidden sub-routine that would make Data age, so he could feel the full spate of emotions. Maybe even aging and pain. Whatever the case, it's easy to make it work.

And if it is the B4 android, reassembled (see below), you just say that the subroutine was part of Data's permanent programming and, when he transferred some of his "consciousness" to B4 in Nemesis, that subroutine was part of the transfer.

FWIW, I don't recall where I read it, but it's been said that the "Data as parts" we see in the trailer is not Data but specifically the B4 android, which was dismantled in the years following the events in Nemesis.







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Re: Star Trek Picard trailer is probably going to get me to subscribe to CBS
Posted by: hal
Date: October 06, 2019 04:25PM
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Re: Star Trek Picard trailer is probably going to get me to subscribe to CBS
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Date: October 06, 2019 05:21PM
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Re: Star Trek Picard trailer is probably going to get me to subscribe to CBS
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: October 06, 2019 06:01PM
Skipping all the previous posts (I hate spoilers) I'm really interested in seeing how Star Trek: Picard holds up with the MRF fan base after a few episodes.

I'm in, no question.

I liked all the Treks, though D9 wasn't near the top of my list (bits were, but it jumped the rails).

I really, really like Star Trek Discovery, even though it's the Trek people love to hate. I am thoroughly enjoying it, plot holes and all. The cast it great; love the story lines. I'll be sad when Anson Mount leaves.

And then there's Michelle Yeoh...






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Re: Star Trek Picard trailer is probably going to get me to subscribe to CBS
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: October 06, 2019 06:05PM
Ooops.

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Re: Star Trek Picard trailer is probably going to get me to subscribe to CBS
Posted by: graylocks
Date: October 06, 2019 08:43PM
so i'm checking into CBS All Access and i see there are two subscription levels. is the one with limited commercials for $5.99 like Hulu-length 2 30 second ad commercials or conventional TV commercials that add 20 minutes or more to an hour of viewing?



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Re: Star Trek Picard trailer is probably going to get me to subscribe to CBS
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: October 06, 2019 09:35PM
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so i'm checking into CBS All Access and i see there are two subscription levels. is the one with limited commercials for $5.99 like Hulu-length 2 30 second ad commercials...

When was the last time you watched Hulu?

They've got more ads than legit content for most shows.



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Re: Star Trek Picard trailer is probably going to get me to subscribe to CBS
Posted by: mrlynn
Date: October 06, 2019 09:39PM
Shouldn't that be 'CBS Limited Access'?

I haven't watched any new Star Treks since the series featuring that female captain with the buzzy voice—'Voyager'? Didn't know about the 'Discovery' series, though if RAMd®d says it's good, maybe I should take a look.

Currently my wife and I are working our way through the original ST, about to begin Season 3. Then we figured we'd go back and watch all the TNGs again; it's been some years. Have to admit, some of the originals were pretty hokey. Hard to imagine veteran SF writers could come up with real Romans on a remote planet.

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Re: Star Trek Picard trailer is probably going to get me to subscribe to CBS
Posted by: graylocks
Date: October 06, 2019 10:51PM
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so i'm checking into CBS All Access and i see there are two subscription levels. is the one with limited commercials for $5.99 like Hulu-length 2 30 second ad commercials...

When was the last time you watched Hulu?

They've got more ads than legit content for most shows.

i watch Hulu a lot and it is no-where near as obnoxious as conventional TV. i do think that varies by shows, though so maybe it's just my selections.



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Re: Star Trek Picard trailer is probably going to get me to subscribe to CBS
Posted by: PeterB
Date: October 07, 2019 08:04AM
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Data is seriously in need of some CGI, an android shouldn't age like that.

That's what I thought too, he looked pretty awful, unless it's intended as a flashback / memory scene ... in which case it's believable that Picard doesn't remember Data exactly the way we saw him (especially given his age). What argues against it being a memory/flashback is that there's another scene in one of the trailers where we apparently see Data as parts in a drawer...

Probable that it is a (recurring) dream sequence, or perhaps a holodeck setup. Could also be B4.

Still and all; simplest explanation is that, since Brent Spiner ages, you write in an explanation: Dr Soong's emotion chip had a hidden sub-routine that would make Data age, so he could feel the full spate of emotions. Maybe even aging and pain. Whatever the case, it's easy to make it work.

And if it is the B4 android, reassembled (see below), you just say that the subroutine was part of Data's permanent programming and, when he transferred some of his "consciousness" to B4 in Nemesis, that subroutine was part of the transfer.

FWIW, I don't recall where I read it, but it's been said that the "Data as parts" we see in the trailer is not Data but specifically the B4 android, which was dismantled in the years following the events in Nemesis.

Sorry Zoid, not buying any of that. It was explicitly stated that Data doesn't age. At one point he even has a 500 year old head. As for B4 ... they;'ve also said that it is NOT B4 who is appearing, rather it IS Data. I'm definitely getting the feeling of them totally disregarding canon, as they've done with the dumpster fire that is STD.




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Re: Star Trek Picard trailer is probably going to get me to subscribe to CBS
Posted by: Acer
Date: October 07, 2019 04:33PM
In All Good Things, Data added a shock of gray to his hair to give himself the appearance of age. Maybe this time he just takes it a little further by adding a few wrinkles and skin tags. Or, perhaps he discovers an aging subroutine that Dr Soong hid in there. Or, maybe exposure to radiation during a subspace warp core breach damaged his artificial skin. There's always a way cause it's all fake.
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Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: October 07, 2019 11:10PM
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