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What happens when Steve is gone?
Posted by: DharmaDog
Date: January 31, 2007 09:31AM
Will Apple be able to carry on with Steve's focus on elegant simplicity? Or will they suddenly stop "getting it" and feature creep and complexity will set in?

Here is a good interview with Steve. A couple of years old, but it sheds some light on his thinking.
[www.businessweek.com]

Who is the heir apparent? I've read Tim Cook.
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Re: What happens when Steve is gone?
Posted by: mikebw
Date: January 31, 2007 09:36AM
I would sell stock just before he leaves. Good luck with that.
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Re: What happens when Steve is gone?
Posted by: kap
Date: January 31, 2007 09:43AM
He looks thinner now. I hope his health is good.

Kap



SoCal for now.
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Re: What happens when Steve is gone?
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: January 31, 2007 09:44AM
Hopefully Gil Amelio will be available.
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Re: What happens when Steve is gone?
Posted by: threeprong
Date: January 31, 2007 09:46AM
He needs to start bringing an heir apparent up on stage more.

If you have read the book "Good to Great" all Great companies are lead bu CEO's who create a candidate for their replacement. I'm betting Steve jobs is not doing that.


Apple is doomed.

3p



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/31/2007 09:46AM by threeprong.
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Re: What happens when Steve is gone?
Posted by: blusubaru
Date: January 31, 2007 09:54AM
Google takes over.
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Re: What happens when Steve is gone?
Posted by: karsen
Date: January 31, 2007 10:07AM
Steve Ballmer will be looking for a job soon.
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Re: What happens when Steve is gone?
Posted by: billb
Date: January 31, 2007 10:18AM
Pixar.
Tom Hanks for the voice.
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Re: What happens when Steve is gone?
Posted by: lafinfil
Date: January 31, 2007 10:34AM
Dibs on his parking spot !



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Re: What happens when Steve is gone?
Posted by: incognegro
Date: January 31, 2007 10:35AM
you mean you don't know about the clones?



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Re: What happens when Steve is gone?
Posted by: samintx
Date: January 31, 2007 10:42AM
I thought we had a Steve Jobs clone right here... or am I wrong?
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Re: What happens when Steve is gone?
Posted by: BigGuynRusty
Date: January 31, 2007 10:49AM
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samintx
I thought we had a Steve Jobs clone right here... or am I wrong?

Your mixing up clones, and clowns.

BGnR



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Re: What happens when Steve is gone?
Posted by: Ammo
Date: January 31, 2007 10:52AM
Thanks for the laughs, Lux and Rusty.
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Re: What happens when Steve is gone?
Posted by: bfd
Date: January 31, 2007 11:00AM
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incognegro
you mean you don't know about the clones?

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Re: What happens when Steve is gone?
Posted by: davester
Date: January 31, 2007 11:28AM
The reality distortion field will collapse, forming a mini black hole where 1 Infinite Loop used to be.



"In science it often happens that scientists say, 'You know that's a really good argument; my position is mistaken,' and then they would actually change their minds and you never hear that old view from them again. They really do it. It doesn't happen as often as it should, because scientists are human and change is sometimes painful. But it happens every day. I cannot recall the last time something like that happened in politics or religion." (1987) -- Carl Sagan
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Re: What happens when Steve is gone?
Posted by: incognegro
Date: January 31, 2007 12:20PM
send in the clones... there's got to be clones...

[homepage.mac.com]
Jobs says "down the sh*tter" a couple times!

[homepage.mac.com]
Steve in 1997 saying how they will turn Apple around.

(these are very small movies)



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Re: What happens when Steve is gone?
Posted by: pRON aHOLIC
Date: January 31, 2007 01:12PM
I always assumed he would live forever but I get dibs on the Mercedes.



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Re: What happens when Steve is gone?
Posted by: SteveJobs
Date: January 31, 2007 01:27PM
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BigGuynRusty
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samintx
I thought we had a Steve Jobs clone right here... or am I wrong?

Your mixing up clones, and clowns.

BGnR

Ouch!



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Re: What happens when Steve is gone?
Posted by: the_poochies
Date: January 31, 2007 01:31PM
I see a "return to beige" in the future for Apple...
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Re: What happens when Steve is gone?
Posted by: Rick-o
Date: January 31, 2007 02:12PM
If it were up to me, I'd pick this guy:

[en.wikipedia.org]



Mr. Lahey: A lot of people, don’t know how to drink. They drink against the grain of the liquor. And when you drink against the grain of the liquor? You lose.

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Re: What happens when Steve is gone?
Posted by: hal
Date: January 31, 2007 03:49PM
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DharmaDog
Will Apple be able to carry on with Steve's focus on elegant simplicity? Or will they suddenly stop "getting it" and feature creep and complexity will set in?

Here is a good interview with Steve. A couple of years old, but it sheds some light on his thinking.
[www.businessweek.com]

Who is the heir apparent? I've read Tim Cook.

Stock price would collapse. WHy ask the question, we've seen this before. Jobs was ousted, apple instantly stopped being creative and went on to lose BILLIONs of dollars and very nearly went under.

This is a unique point in history. Jobs will be remembered as well as henry ford in the distant future. Apple not be at all interesting a couple of yeras after jobs is gone.
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Re: What happens when Steve is gone?
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: January 31, 2007 03:56PM
I'm betting Steve jobs is not doing that.

I'm betting he is.






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Re: What happens when Steve is gone?
Posted by: DharmaDog
Date: January 31, 2007 04:19PM
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hal
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DharmaDog
Will Apple be able to carry on with Steve's focus on elegant simplicity? Or will they suddenly stop "getting it" and feature creep and complexity will set in?

Here is a good interview with Steve. A couple of years old, but it sheds some light on his thinking.
[www.businessweek.com]

Who is the heir apparent? I've read Tim Cook.

Stock price would collapse. WHy ask the question, we've seen this before. Jobs was ousted, apple instantly stopped being creative and went on to lose BILLIONs of dollars and very nearly went under.

This is a unique point in history. Jobs will be remembered as well as henry ford in the distant future. Apple not be at all interesting a couple of yeras after jobs is gone.

I'm hoping that he has taught the company how to survive without him this time. Certainly the company is aware of the problems they had the last time his approach to products and business were absent due to his ouster. People and companies do learn. At least the good ones do.
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Re: What happens when Steve is gone?
Posted by: hal
Date: January 31, 2007 04:28PM
btw, I think he is already grooming the designer - whatshisname... the british guy

whomever it is... we'll know because this person will get more and more keynote time and time passes.
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Re: What happens when Steve is gone?
Posted by: Rick-o
Date: January 31, 2007 04:31PM
> btw, I think he is already grooming the designer - whatshisname... the british guy

Good call! See my link above.



Mr. Lahey: A lot of people, don’t know how to drink. They drink against the grain of the liquor. And when you drink against the grain of the liquor? You lose.

Randy: What the @#$%& are you talking about?
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Re: What happens when Steve is gone?
Posted by: DharmaDog
Date: January 31, 2007 05:55PM
Jonathan Ives is who you are talking about. I'm pretty sure I recall Tim Cook being mentioned and that Jonathan Ives was ruled out for some reason. He may have indicated he was not interested.
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Re: What happens when Steve is gone?
Posted by: chas_m
Date: January 31, 2007 08:24PM
Who was that guy who demonstrated Time Machine at the WWDC? Vice President of something or other and doesn't look like he shaves yet. smiling smiley

He certainly had some of the ol' Steve magic about him.

Steve is more than just a figurehead who's good at public speaking, btw. He's VERY up to date on technology, he contributes design ideas, you could say he "architects" software, and he even writes ad copy for the company! Seriously!

He's a bona-fide genius who's actually just now flowering. His previous successes were due entirely to vision and moxie: now he's got experience and wisdom to supplement that, and the results have been (and I hope will be for another decade or so) explosive.



chas_m




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Re: What happens when Steve is gone?
Posted by: mikebw
Date: January 31, 2007 11:54PM
Steve Jobs is a VISIONARY. That's what Apple needs to keep going. Everyone else has the same technology, money, coders, designers- whatever. Ideas are the only unique thing left in this world and so far Jobs has had THE best ideas. You cannot simply train someone to think like Jobs does.
Sad as it may be to think about, things will never be the same for Apple after Jobs. Sure, they will still continue on but it won't be 'insanely great' anymore. There will be somone new, somewhere else probably.
Like Jobs said in the Silicon Pirates movie "We are killing off dead culture" (or something to that effect). They really are. They way they have been successful in the past was to simply forget everything you know, start fresh, better. Constantly rethink things. Do what has never been done.
And then everyone else in the industry copies that. (of course we all know Apple has done their share of copying ideas, but at least we can see they understand how to do it).
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