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Got a free iMac DV SE (500Mhz G3) - best OS?
Posted by: timg
Date: January 31, 2007 03:34PM
Just acquired an iMac DV SE with DVD drive and 384MB RAM. It's running OS 9.0.4 (probably what it shipped with). Will this run 10.3 or 10.4 acceptably? or should i leave it OS 9?
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Re: Got a free iMac DV SE (500Mhz G3) - best OS?
Posted by: Paul F.
Date: January 31, 2007 03:38PM
I have quite a few of those running 10.3.9.
Runs fine!

More RAM is better, but as long as you don't run too many apps at once, 384 will work fine.

WARNING WARNING WARNING!

Update the firmware on that iMac before you get an OS X CD or other OS X bootable volume within 10 feet of it!!!!
UPDATE THE FIRMWARE!


This has been a public service announcement to all slot-loading iMac owners who wish to try OS X on their G3 iMacs...



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Re: Got a free iMac DV SE (500Mhz G3) - best OS?
Posted by: Seacrest
Date: January 31, 2007 03:46PM
Hey, did anybody mention the firmware thing?
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Re: Got a free iMac DV SE (500Mhz G3) - best OS?
Posted by: mattkime
Date: January 31, 2007 03:48PM
I'd put 10.4 on it.

Good find!



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Re: Got a free iMac DV SE (500Mhz G3) - best OS?
Posted by: Paul F.
Date: January 31, 2007 03:56PM
I haven't used 10.4 too much on G3 iMacs...
The couple I tried it on got pretty slow and pokey with 10.4, but I will admit it was a pretty fast test... and I might have goobered the install up (cloned from an eMac)...

Might be better than 10.3...maybe not..

Update the firmware to 4.1.9 before trying either one of them, however!



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Re: Got a free iMac DV SE (500Mhz G3) - best OS?
Posted by: Buzz
Date: January 31, 2007 03:58PM
what color is it? and oh, you might want to update the firmware on it prior to installing OS X, as well as feeding it any add'l available RAM you can find...



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Re: Got a free iMac DV SE (500Mhz G3) - best OS?
Posted by: timg
Date: January 31, 2007 04:05PM
It's a graphite. I think I might have heard somewhere that it might need a firmware update.
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Re: Got a free iMac DV SE (500Mhz G3) - best OS?
Posted by: voodoopenguin
Date: January 31, 2007 04:13PM
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timg
It's a graphite. I think I might have heard somewhere that it might need a firmware update.

Are you sure? I never heard that.
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Re: Got a free iMac DV SE (500Mhz G3) - best OS?
Posted by: Paul F.
Date: January 31, 2007 04:13PM
Only if you want to keep the VIdeo board from exploding.... (OK, keep it working.. I haven't actually had them explode....)

Trying to get the video back after booting to OS X without the firmware update is an excercise in frustration... and it doesn't always work.



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Re: Got a free iMac DV SE (500Mhz G3) - best OS?
Posted by: Harbourmaster
Date: January 31, 2007 04:24PM
Running the latest and greatest 10.4.8 on a 400DV here with 768 and it just humms along!



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Re: Got a free iMac DV SE (500Mhz G3) - best OS?
Posted by: Seacrest
Date: January 31, 2007 04:27PM
Allow me to impart some sage advice my mother gave me long ago:
"Be sure to always wear clean underwear, and always check the firmware version of a slot-loading iMac before installing OS X."
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Re: Got a free iMac DV SE (500Mhz G3) - best OS?
Posted by: silvarios
Date: January 31, 2007 05:13PM
I have a Snow iMac DV SE, 500 MHz, DVD-ROM, 2 FireWire ports, upgraded to 1GB RAM and 120GB hard drive. So far, I have been content to stick with Mac OS 10.3.9.

I'm sure Tiger would run okay as well, but I don't really need Spotlight nor do I use Dashboard. Well, I do use a couple widgets, but Opera 9 has the two I need, calendar and weather, so I don't really need two Widget technologies running at the same time.

The biggest loss is all the Mac software which is increasingly 10.4 only. I've even seen some developers who have started developing Leopard only applications. Even still, Opera 9.1 for web, email, RSS, and bittorrent, and xPad for note taking, I'm pretty much covered. Namely is also quite useful for launching applications and Chicken of the VNC for those times when I need to connect to my headless file server and they both work quite well on Mac OS 10.3.9.

Did you know that updating the iMac's firmware is a necessary first step when installing Mac OS X?


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Re: Got a free iMac DV SE (500Mhz G3) - best OS?
Posted by: incognegro
Date: January 31, 2007 10:56PM
i just want to add that the firmware might not need updating, but it probably does.



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Re: Got a free iMac DV SE (500Mhz G3) - best OS?
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: February 01, 2007 12:30AM
I think it was remiss of everyone not to mention that the firmware should be updated to 4.18 or 4.19f before attempting to install X.

Not doing so will usually render the iMac deaf, dumb, and blind. It can be saved, but it's no mean, simple feat.

Somebody should have said something!

10.3 at the very least, and if Hm says Tiger (with mucho RAM) is fine, I'd say damn the torpedos.

I'd like to have an iMac and a shuffle to match- maybe a Sage and Green, or a Tangerine and Orange.






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Re: Got a free iMac DV SE (500Mhz G3) - best OS?
Posted by: DP
Date: February 01, 2007 06:14AM
You will need to update the firmware. I tried loading Panther without it and went thru the no display thing...
Also, silvarios-what HD did you install? Does any ATA work in it? I have a DV 400 with 256 RAM and the original 13 GB HD that I want to upgrade.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/01/2007 06:20AM by DP.
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Re: Got a free iMac DV SE (500Mhz G3) - best OS?
Posted by: silvarios
Date: February 01, 2007 07:36AM
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DP
You will need to update the firmware. I tried loading Panther without it and went thru the no display thing...
Also, silvarios-what HD did you install? Does any ATA work in it? I have a DV 400 with 256 RAM and the original 13 GB HD that I want to upgrade.

120GB 3.5" PATA Seagate. ATA 133 or 100 or some such. 120GB drives aren't laying around for great prices these days. For $85 or $35 more than I paid for the 120GB Seagate, I got a 320GB SATA Seagate. Granted, it was several months to a year later when I bought the 320GB drive. Three times the capacity for $35 more. 160GB PATA drives, which will format to 128GB without any special setup and may be the better buy. I suppose you could get an even larger drive, but without a software driver, your iMac won't see over 128GB. OWC sales the Hi-cap driver. Too tired to find a link for it at the moment. Maybe after I steal some shut eye.


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Re: Got a free iMac DV SE (500Mhz G3) - best OS?
Posted by: DP
Date: February 01, 2007 07:51AM
silvarios-no need for a link; you gave me enough info. Get some shut-eye. Thanx.
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Re: Got a free iMac DV SE (500Mhz G3) - best OS?
Posted by: timg
Date: February 01, 2007 11:48AM
OK, I updated the firmware to 4.1.9 - had to upgrade the OS to 9.1 to do it though.

Haven't decided if I'm gonna put OS X on yet, but if I do, I have eliminated the possibility of killing the video. Hope everyone can sleep better now.
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