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Navy to name new carrier after decorated African-American
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: January 18, 2020 06:15AM
The Navy will announce Monday that a new Ford class aircraft carrier will be named for Doris Miller.

Miller was the first African-American to be awarded the Navy Cross. Then a Mess Attendant, Miller manned a machine gun aboard the USS West Virginia during the attack on Pearl Harbor. At that time African-Americans were not assigned or trained in gunnery. Miller later died when the ship he was serving on was sunk.

The carrier's keel has not yet been laid and commissioning will not be until the 2030's. A destroyer escort was previously named in his honor.

This will be the first carrier named for an African-American, and the first named solely for the namesake's gallantry. While previous carriers have been named for veterans, they have all been ones who went on to political achievement (primarily former presidents).


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Re: Navy to name new carrier after decorated African-American
Posted by: Carnos Jax
Date: January 18, 2020 10:29AM
This is just awesome!
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Re: Navy to name new carrier after decorated African-American
Posted by: Rolando
Date: January 18, 2020 10:44AM
That is pretty f***in' amazing. Pretty much the highest honor I can think of.



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Re: Navy to name new carrier after decorated African-American
Posted by: MrNoBody
Date: January 18, 2020 11:26AM
Positive move and long overdue.
But for me, a bigger accomplishment would be the removal of Hoover's name from
all FBI buildings.
Two others come to mind for exclusion from honors, Senators Robert Byrd and
Strom Thurmond.
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Re: Navy to name new carrier after decorated African-American
Posted by: hal
Date: January 18, 2020 02:26PM
that's a hell of a story, but a guy named Doris... that must have been tough as a kid.
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Re: Navy to name new carrier after decorated African-American
Posted by: Bernie
Date: January 18, 2020 03:15PM
Re: Navy to name new carrier after decorated African-American
Posted by: Speedy
Date: January 18, 2020 04:21PM
I hope this was approved at the top of the chain of command before it was announced.



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Re: Navy to name new carrier after decorated African-American
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: January 18, 2020 04:31PM
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Bernie
The Navy said that as of December, 14 ships had been named for African Americans, including destroyers and a ballistic missile submarine.



There are currently five ships in service named for African-Americans, two warships and three support vessels -

The first ship named in honor of an African American was the USS Harmon (DE-678), a 1,400-ton destroyer escort, commissioned in August 1943. It was named in honor of Mess Attendant First Class Leonard Roy Harmon, who posthumously was awarded the Navy Cross for heroism during the Battle of Guadalcanal on Nov. 13, 1942. He was killed in action aboard the cruiser the USS San Francisco. Decommissioned in 1947

The nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarine USS George Washington Carver (SSBN-656) was the next craft named in honor of an African American. The submarine honors scientist George Washington Carver (1864-1943). Commissioned in June 1966, the Carver carried out 73 patrols in the Atlantic area until mid-1991. She was decommissioned in March 1993.

The USS Jesse L. Brown (DE-1089 and later FF-1089 and FFT- 1089) was named in honor of Ensign Jesse L. Brown, USN (1926-1950). Brown was the first African-American naval aviator, and was killed in action during the Korean War. Decommissioned in 1994

The USS Miller (DE-1091, later FF-1091) was named in honor of Cook Third Class Doris ("Dorie") Miller. Miller was awarded the Navy Cross for heroism during the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor on Dec. 7, 1941. The Miller was commissioned in June 1973 and was transferred to the Naval Reserve Force in January 1982. She was decommissioned in October 1991.

The USNS (U.S. Naval Ship) Pfc. James Anderson Jr. (T-AK- 3002) was named in honor of Marine Pfc. James Anderson Jr., who was posthumously awarded the Medal of Honor for heroism during the Vietnam War. A maritime preprositioning ship, the Anderson was built in Denmark in 1979 as the merchant ship Emma Maersk. She's based at Diego Garcia, an island in the Indian Ocean, and carries equipment to support a Marine expeditionary brigade.

The guided-missile frigate USS Rodney M. Davis (FFG-60) was named in honor of Marine Sgt. Rodney M. Davis, who was posthumously awarded the Medal of Honor for heroism during the Vietnam War. The ship was decommissioned in 2015

The USNS Henson (T-AGS-63) was named in honor of the Arctic Explorer Matthew Alexander Henson (1866-1955) who accompanied Robert E. Peary when he was credited with discovering the North Pole in 1909. The Henson was commissioned in 1998.

The USNS Watson was named in honor of Army Pvt. George Watson, who was posthumously awarded the Medal of Honor for heroism during World War II.

The USS Oscar Austin was named in honor of Marine Pfc. Oscar P. Austin, who was posthumously awarded the Medal of Honor for heroism during the Vietnam War. The Austin is an Arleigh Burke class guided missile destroyer.

Another Arleigh Burke class guided missile destroyer, the USS Pinckney was commissioned in 2004 and is named for Navy Cross recipient, Navy Cook 3rd Class William Pinckney. The ship is named to honor Pinckney's heroism aboard the aircraft carrier USS Enterprise during the Battle of Santa Cruz in 1942. He survived the battle and died in 1975.


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Re: Navy to name new carrier after decorated African-American
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: January 18, 2020 04:33PM
and the first named solely for the namesake's gallantry.

This to me, is the most important aspect of the naming.

Not because someone was of a specific race, not because someone held office, but solely because of gallantry in service to his country.

He did get the Navy Cross as mentioned. It's the Navy's third highest medal, first being the MoH, second the DFC.

But getting a combat ship named after him– WOW.

If it was me, and I had a choice between having a ship or boat named after me or getting the MoH, it would be a tough call (especially since both are usually a posthumous honor, LOL)

I suppose the NC and having a carrier as a namesake would be fine.






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Re: Navy to name new carrier after decorated African-American
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: January 18, 2020 06:34PM
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...but solely because of gallantry in service to his country.
...getting a combat ship named after him– WOW.

The uniqueness here is that it's an aircraft carrier.

See Ombligo's list above; there's a number of "combat ships" that were named for gallant black service members (including Miller himself earlier with DE-1091).
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Re: Navy to name new carrier after decorated African-American
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: January 18, 2020 06:42PM
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RAMd®d
He did get the Navy Cross as mentioned. It's the Navy's third highest medal, first being the MoH, second the DFC.

The Navy Cross is the second highest. It is the Navy equivalent to the DFC (Air Force) and DSC (Army).



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Date: January 18, 2020 08:17PM
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Re: Navy to name new carrier after decorated African-American
Posted by: Rolando
Date: January 18, 2020 09:59PM
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RAMd®d
...but solely because of gallantry in service to his country.
...getting a combat ship named after him– WOW.

The uniqueness here is that it's an aircraft carrier.

See Ombligo's list above; there's a number of "combat ships" that were named for gallant black service members (including Miller himself earlier with DE-1091).

Exactly. Not just a combat ship. An Aircraft Carrier. 1 of about a dozen. Others are named for Presidents or Admirals or Spaceships (just kidding)!



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Date: January 18, 2020 11:49PM
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Re: Navy to name new carrier after decorated African-American
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: January 20, 2020 09:22AM
The Navy Cross is the second highest.

Yes, I did suffer a semi-dyslexic moment.

The fact that it's a carrier isn't lost on me, but I view it first and foremost a combat ship, though the others mentioned were most certainly of a smaller class.

Again, as great as having a carrier named after him, to me, is the fact that it was based on gallantry of combat actions of a sailor and not a cake-eater.






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We don’t do focus groups. They just ensure that you don’t offend anyone, and produce bland inoffensive products. —Sir Jonathan Ive

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